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intoxication 21-09-2009 15:07

The Ulrika/Matthew/John thing
 
I remember reading what happened but can't remember the details. When & why did Matthew Wright reveal that it was John Leslie who raped(?) Ulrika Johnson? And how did he know in the first place?

summertime09 21-09-2009 15:16

The name was known throughout the media, The Wright Stuff were having a discussion on date-rape and Mathew just blurted the name out!!

broadshoulder 21-09-2009 15:33

What Ulrika did was very sneaky. She didnt name him to the police she just set the rumour out there and someone else blurted it out.

And John Leslie was tried and hung very quickly.

Miss_Moo 21-09-2009 15:35

Matthew Wright and John Leslie (who have since made up) shared the same agent at the time. ;)

summertime09 21-09-2009 15:38

I think there was photos of JL that put the final nail in his coffin.

yag 21-09-2009 16:05

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Originally Posted by summertime09 (Post 35600606)
I think there was photos of JL that put the final nail in his coffin.

photos of him raping Ulrika???

Loz_Fraggle 21-09-2009 16:07

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Originally Posted by summertime09 (Post 35600181)
The name was known throughout the media, The Wright Stuff were having a discussion on date-rape and Mathew just blurted the name out!!

They were discussing the paper coverage, that Ulrika was getting about her allegations, and MW said something along the lines of, 'in the papers, all the suggestion is that it's John Leslie' No further reference was made to it during the programme that day, iirc, and it was a kind of did he really say that ? thing.

It may have been during the papers discussion they used to have at the beginning of the programme, or maybe not, as I remember flicking over to John Leslie on the other side, thinking he's got no idea what's just happened to change his career.

summertime09 21-09-2009 16:07

GAWD NO!!!! YIKES, A white powder was involved!!!!

summertime09 21-09-2009 16:09

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Originally Posted by Loz_Fraggle (Post 35601137)
They were discussing the paper coverage, that Ulrika was getting about her allegations, and MW said something along the lines of, 'in the papers, all the suggestion is that it's John Leslie' No further reference was made to it during the programme that day, iirc, and it was a kind of did he really say that ? thing.

Yes, he blurted the name out during the discussion!!!! red faces all around that day!!!

Porcupine 21-09-2009 16:44

I actually think John Leslie could of resurrected his career. He was OK as a presenter, and i think a lot of people felt sorry for him initially - thinking he had been wrongly accused.

But then the photos of him were in the papers, alleged sex romps and 'three in a bed' stories with Abi (get ya tits out) Titmuss ..... and then more women jumped on the bandwagon saying he had raped them.

It went to court, and i dont believe he was charged with anything.

But the scandal killed his career.

Miss_Moo 21-09-2009 16:55

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Originally Posted by Porcupine (Post 35601783)
I actually think John Leslie could of resurrected his career. He was OK as a presenter, and i think a lot of people felt sorry for him initially - thinking he had been wrongly accused.

But then the photos of him were in the papers, alleged sex romps and 'three in a bed' stories with Abi (get ya tits out) Titmuss ..... and then more women jumped on the bandwagon saying he had raped them.

It went to court, and i dont believe he was charged with anything.

But the scandal killed his career.

That's why I think it was set up for MW to say his name. No one knew all the other stuff was going to happen and most people knew the rumours were about JL and he could defend himself once his name was out there.

Newkidontheblok 21-09-2009 17:14

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Originally Posted by Miss_Moo (Post 35601991)
That's why I think it was set up for MW to say his name. No one knew all the other stuff was going to happen and most people knew the rumours were about JL and he could defend himself once his name was out there.

Yep, MW and JL remained friends - JL was seen "strangling" MW in that year's christmas comedy video for Proper Crimbo.

gonnaenodaethat 21-09-2009 17:24

John Leslie asked my 19 year old daughter out earlier this year!!. He's the same age as me nearly!!

alfiewozere 21-09-2009 17:27

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Originally Posted by gonnaenodaethat (Post 35602498)
John Leslie asked my 19 year old daughter out earlier this year!!. He's the same age as me nearly!!

Did she say yes?:eek:

umbongo 21-09-2009 18:43

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Originally Posted by Loz_Fraggle (Post 35601137)
They were discussing the paper coverage, that Ulrika was getting about her allegations, and MW said something along the lines of, 'in the papers, all the suggestion is that it's John Leslie' No further reference was made to it during the programme that day, iirc, and it was a kind of did he really say that ? thing.

Matthew did say after the break that he was sorry and that it wasn't John Leslie that Fleet Street was naming as the man who raped Ulrika. It certainly wasn't brushed under the rug on that particular programme.

Karen1969 21-09-2009 19:51

Didn't she say in her autobiography or somewhere else that she hads once gone on a date with John Leslie and they had gone to the cinema and he took her back to her hotel but that nothing happened between them and then when she made the rape allegation she said it was a well known tv presenter who raped her in a hotel room after a date at the cinema and the rumour mill went nuts.

nicola1976 21-09-2009 19:59

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Originally Posted by alfiewozere (Post 35602557)
Did she say yes?:eek:

A girl I once worked with went out with him. They split up in quite an acrimonious way.

Please tell me she had the sense to say 'NO'

Nico 21-09-2009 20:02

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Originally Posted by Karen1969 (Post 35605480)
Didn't she say in her autobiography or somewhere else that she hads once gone on a date with John Leslie and they had gone to the cinema and he took her back to her hotel but that nothing happened between them and then when she made the rape allegation she said it was a well known tv presenter who raped her in a hotel room after a date at the cinema and the rumour mill went nuts.

i think you're correct Karen, as soon as the rape allegation came out and the back drop to the cinema story was revealed, all of fleet street were in over drive printing and implying it was John Leslie.

zx50 21-09-2009 20:50

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Originally Posted by Porcupine (Post 35601783)
I actually think John Leslie could of resurrected his career. He was OK as a presenter, and i think a lot of people felt sorry for him initially - thinking he had been wrongly accused.

But then the photos of him were in the papers, alleged sex romps and 'three in a bed' stories with Abi (get ya tits out) Titmuss ..... and then more women jumped on the bandwagon saying he had raped them.

It went to court, and i dont believe he was charged with anything.

But the scandal killed his career.

This is the trouble with scandals. The fact that whenever there's a one that's been created, loads of women start jumping on the bandwagon by stating that said celebrity done the same thing with them as well. And you know, it's probably all a load of rubbish because if they had of done the same thing with them, they'd have likely come forward ages ago. These tell talers are probably just interested in making money off a story that's based on 100% lies.

Rogana Josh 21-09-2009 21:33

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Originally Posted by summertime09 (Post 35600181)
The name was known throughout the media, The Wright Stuff were having a discussion on date-rape and Mathew just blurted the name out!!

Maybe after Ulrika 'accidently' blurted it out to him:rolleyes:

paralax 22-09-2009 00:29

What Ulrika did to John Leslie was dispicable, she waited until she had a book to sell before she mentioned rape and then let people make assumptions, she could have said whether it was him or not, she wasted god knows how much police time and the taxpayer paid for it, John Leslie was destroyed, no wonder he ended up on drugs.

These women who cry rape to the media for attention, money or whatever are an insult to genuine victims. If they were raped either report it, or not, that is the woman's decision and they must struggle with it, but when it is thrown out there to the tabloids it just sounds like they are lying.

Simi89 22-09-2009 01:58

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Originally Posted by paralax (Post 35611722)
What Ulrika did to John Leslie was dispicable, she waited until she had a book to sell before she mentioned rape and then let people make assumptions, she could have said whether it was him or not, she wasted god knows how much police time and the taxpayer paid for it, John Leslie was destroyed, no wonder he ended up on drugs.

These women who cry rape to the media for attention, money or whatever are an insult to genuine victims. If they were raped either report it, or not, that is the woman's decision and they must struggle with it, but when it is thrown out there to the tabloids it just sounds like they are lying.

Completely agree with your post.

PlausibleDenial 08-01-2013 01:18

Its interesting how since the jimmy sabille thing john leslie is now sticking his head out

The
Latest article here --> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...t-recluse.html

I do believe that MW saying his name was set up so that JL couldd 'clear' his name, however Ulrika could have done that for him and said that it wasnt him and then this would have been all over like a flash.

Yet she didnt.

kaybee15 08-01-2013 02:11

Always seems odd to me that the UJ apologists always cite her silence on the matter as somehow admirable - 'Well, she didn't name him, it wasn't HER fault' blah blah blah. It was an open secret in showbiz circles before MW blurted it out - who do you think, out of the two people present at the allleged incident, was responsible for putting his name out there? Clue - unlikely to be JL.

There were also I believe questions regarding UJs subsequent 'four day' hospital stay for 'internal injuries', which turned out to be grossly exaggerated.

I'd be very surprised if the 'attack' happened to be honest, and even more so if Leslie committed it, given his 'cosy' interview on Big Breakfast (?) with her 6 months later. It was a publicity stunt in which she allowed a mans life to be torn apart just to keep her mug in the papers, and her lack of success over the past few years indicates a lot of others have come to the same conclusion...

Big Boy Barry 08-01-2013 05:46

All three of them bear some responsibility

Matthew Wright for not being able to link his brain and mouth, which unfortunately is a common occurance on the Wright Stuff, one of the worst panel discussion shows in television history

John Leslie for having no sense of self-control and living a life second only to Michael Barrymore in terms of life and career meltdown

Ulrika Jonsson for never clarifying whether Leslie was the alleged attacker or not, and for never reporting the alleged rape in the first instance.


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