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Blondie X 13-08-2012 18:48

Gazza back in rehab
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...es-Valium.html

Such a contrast after seeing the new sporting heros emerge at London 2012 to a former hero as a shell of a human.

Sadly, I think the top comment is right. He's going down the Best route and there doesn't seem to be a way back now. He won't make 50 :(

FusionFury 13-08-2012 18:50

So sad.. he's a flawed genius.

Can't help but think if he had a stronger manager..

DiamondDoll 13-08-2012 18:54

Sad to see him in the clutches of his demons once more.:(

Hope he can find the strength to fight this again.

Saltydog1955 13-08-2012 18:58

He said recently he wasn't going to end up like George Best.

Sadly, I think he's going to. :(

Blondie X 13-08-2012 19:26

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Originally Posted by FusionFury (Post 60393932)
So sad.. he's a flawed genius.

Can't help but think if he had a stronger manager..

My OH always said things could have been different if he'd signed for Man U.

Chip Popple 13-08-2012 19:32

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Originally Posted by Blondie X (Post 60395318)
My OH always said things could have been different if he'd signed for Man U.


I agree with your OH, Fergie would have been a tougher disciplinarian than Venables.

This is so sad, but I'm not surprised - he was such a great talent too :(

Lordy Lordy 13-08-2012 19:36

I'm afraid any sympathy I had for Gazza went west a long time ago.

How many chances does he think he'll have left before he kills himself?

haphash 13-08-2012 19:40

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Originally Posted by Lordy Lordy (Post 60395741)
I'm afraid any sympathy I had for Gazza went west a long time ago.

How many chances does he think he'll have left before he kills himself?

Why should sympathy run out? I don't understand.

He is a troubled man and I would like him to be happy and successful. I hope that he can turn his life around.

Chip Popple 13-08-2012 19:43

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Originally Posted by Lordy Lordy (Post 60395741)
I'm afraid any sympathy I had for Gazza went west a long time ago.

How many chances does he think he'll have left before he kills himself?



Gazza is an addict, sympathy would be of no use to him, only proper, sustained, professional help.

Betty Britain 13-08-2012 21:45

I honestly don't think anyone can help Gazza.. Whatever his demons are ..

Blondie X 13-08-2012 21:55

One of the big problems Gazza has is that he doesn't appear to have any real back up from those who surround him.

He can have all the rehab in the world but, unless he has a support sytem when he comes out, he'll fall of the wagon time and time again.

I remember watching a programme about him before and, even after he announced he was an alcoholic, his family were still taking him down the pub. It's like they don't really understand or want to.

gulliverfoyle 13-08-2012 21:57

I see him out and about in Boscombe now and then

always says hello

Chip Popple 13-08-2012 21:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blondie X (Post 60403598)
One of the big problems Gazza has is that he doesn't appear to have any real back up from those who surround him.

He can have all the rehab in the world but, unless he has a support sytem when he comes out, he'll fall of the wagon time and time again.

I remember watching a programme about him before and, even after he announced he was an alcoholic, his family were still taking him down the pub. It's like they don't really understand or want to.


Totally agree. It's a pretty desperate situation, poor old Gazza :(

Phoenix Lazarus 13-08-2012 22:07

Remember when he turned up at Roaul Moat's siege, with some food to be taken in to him?

QWERTYOP 13-08-2012 22:11

I'm sick of reading his endless "i'm back on the wagon, honest this time" interviews (which I'll bet he was always well paid for). The man will go the same way George Best did. I've no doubt about it. Alcholism is not an illness. Cancer is an illness. Those who want to rid themselves of alcholism enough, do. You cannot willpower an illness away.

exlordlucan 14-08-2012 02:10

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Originally Posted by QWERTYOP (Post 60404922)
I'm sick of reading his endless "i'm back on the wagon, honest this time" interviews (which I'll bet he was always well paid for). The man will go the same way George Best did. I've no doubt about it. Alcholism is not an illness. Cancer is an illness. Those who want to rid themselves of alcholism enough, do. You cannot willpower an illness away.

What branch of the medical profession are you in?

Louise_Wood 14-08-2012 02:26

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Originally Posted by QWERTYOP (Post 60404922)
I'm sick of reading his endless "i'm back on the wagon, honest this time" interviews (which I'll bet he was always well paid for). The man will go the same way George Best did. I've no doubt about it. Alcholism is not an illness. Cancer is an illness. Those who want to rid themselves of alcholism enough, do. You cannot willpower an illness away.

:( If only it was that simple, I lost my beloved cousin at 37 to alcohol.

DiamondDoll 14-08-2012 04:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by QWERTYOP (Post 60404922)
I'm sick of reading his endless "i'm back on the wagon, honest this time" interviews (which I'll bet he was always well paid for). The man will go the same way George Best did. I've no doubt about it. Alcholism is not an illness. Cancer is an illness. Those who want to rid themselves of alcholism enough, do. You cannot willpower an illness away.

In this case, ignorance is not bliss.:yawn:

Alcoholism is a chronic, lifelong disease. However, if managed properly, damage to the brain can be stopped and to some extent reversed. In addition to problem drinking, the disease is characterized by symptoms including an impaired control over alcohol, compulsive thoughts about alcohol, and distorted thinking. Alcoholism can also lead indirectly, through excess consumption, to physical dependence on alcohol, and diseases such as cirrhosis of the liver.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disease..._of_alcoholism

Osusana 14-08-2012 09:16

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Originally Posted by Chip Popple (Post 60396049)
Gazza is an addict, sympathy would be of no use to him, only proper, sustained, professional help.

No it wouldn't

I have worked on alcohol treatment units and was married to an alcoholic for 17 years. Professional help was sought so many times and given - it was however rejected by the addict because alcohol was all he wanted.

No amount of professional help can stop a person drinking - they have to want to do it. Some of them do not want to do it enough.

Saltydog1955 14-08-2012 09:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by QWERTYOP (Post 60404922)
Alcholism is not an illness. Cancer is an illness. Those who want to rid themselves of alcholism enough, do. You cannot willpower an illness away.

Addiction is an illness. It can be an addiction to sugar, booze or drugs, but it's extremely difficult to cure if you have an addictive personality.

Amy Winehouse is a case in point. After she'd been to rehab, she was seen buying and eating vast quantities of sweets, but drink killed her in the end, so it looks as if she needed some kind of addiction otherwise she couldn't get through her day or her life.

Gazza seems to have no support from his family, and if as others have said, they take him to the pub when he's with them, he doesn't need them either. He's had countless courses of rehab, but in the end nothing seems to benefit him.

MJS 14-08-2012 10:29

I'm not at all surprised at this news.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Osusana (Post 60415343)

I have worked on alcohol treatment units and was married to an alcoholic for 17 years. Professional help was sought so many times and given - it was however rejected by the addict because alcohol was all he wanted.

No amount of professional help can stop a person drinking - they have to want to do it. Some of them do not want to do it enough.

You are right. He says he's an alcoholic, but has he actually admitted it to himself. It doesn't sound as if he has. Only he can stop drinking. It would be great if he had family/friends/doctors backing him up (and not the type who would take him to a pub), but at the end of the day it's down to him.

My Sweet Life 14-08-2012 16:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by QWERTYOP (Post 60404922)
I'm sick of reading his endless "i'm back on the wagon, honest this time" interviews (which I'll bet he was always well paid for). The man will go the same way George Best did. I've no doubt about it. Alcholism is not an illness. Cancer is an illness. Those who want to rid themselves of alcholism enough, do. You cannot willpower an illness away.

You've never had to see someone you love and care about battle alcohol addiction, have you?

asp746 14-08-2012 19:12

i cant stand gazza, i empathise with his addiction struggles but it's the way he's treated his family that's disgusting.

JoLuc 14-08-2012 22:03

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Originally Posted by My Sweet Life (Post 60422864)
You've never had to see someone you love and care about battle alcohol addiction, have you?

I have. My mother.
She ****ed up 5 sons.
I have no sympathy with any selfish alcoholic.
So shove it!!!

Saltydog1955 14-08-2012 23:22

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Originally Posted by JoLuc (Post 60431316)
I have. My mother.
She ****ed up 5 sons.
I have no sympathy with any selfish alcoholic.
So shove it!!!


Doesn't sound as though your mother wanted to give up the booze for either herself or her five sons.


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