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Kayleigh2010 11-01-2013 23:41

HMV are crafty
 
If you go on there website at the moment, they've got this blue cross sale where anything with a blue cross next to it has 25% off the price

The prices however are ridiculous, how are they still open????/

Straker 11-01-2013 23:56

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Originally Posted by Kayleigh2010 (Post 63516776)
The prices however are ridiculous, how are they still open????/

Give it 6-9 months and they wonít be.....

Kayleigh2010 12-01-2013 00:00

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Originally Posted by Straker (Post 63517295)
Give it 6-9 months and they wonít be.....

I thought they would have shut down a long time ago, I wouldnt mind but you've got films on there for 20 quid that you can get for 3 quid in tesco:confused:

geordielady 12-01-2013 02:55

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Originally Posted by Kayleigh2010 (Post 63516776)
If you go on there website at the moment, they've got this blue cross sale where anything with a blue cross next to it has 25% off the price

The prices however are ridiculous, how are they still open????/

They put the prices of various things up a few days back to counter the money they are giving away with the 25% off.

PJ68 12-01-2013 08:17

such a shame if hmv goes. there will hardly be any record shops left.

kids miss out on the excitement of going to a record shop on saturday morning and buying whatever single or album had come out. everything is so readily available now.

haha that makes me sound ancient but i think it's true.

Muttley76 12-01-2013 09:00

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Originally Posted by PJ68 (Post 63520475)
such a shame if hmv goes. there will hardly be any record shops left.

and when they are gone, watch all the other retailers (online or otherwise) putting their prices up because they can....;)

degsyhufc 12-01-2013 18:39

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Originally Posted by Straker (Post 63517295)
Give it 6-9 months and they wonít be.....

Aye, not that crafty after all :D

Bluray 12-01-2013 21:35

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Originally Posted by PJ68 (Post 63520475)
such a shame if hmv goes. there will hardly be any record shops left.

kids miss out on the excitement of going to a record shop on saturday morning and buying whatever single or album had come out. everything is so readily available now.

haha that makes me sound ancient but i think it's true.

I get what you're saying but they don't miss out because going to a record shop was never applicable to them.

Their "excitement" is the instant gratification of downloads.

Straker 13-01-2013 00:13

Not for this generation the thrill of wandering into a backstreet record shop on a wet wednesday afternoon and discovering in the racks a rare 12 inch single youíd been after and all for a bargain price.

You canít miss what youíve never had but I feel sorry that the young íuns will never have that joyful experience. I guess things like Record Store Day, limited edition runs and the resurgence of boutique vinyl issues go some way to recapturing that but I donít see it as anything other than faddish pandering, pandering that the vast majority of music consumers (download thieves for the most part) donít give a tuppeny shit about.

TeaForOne 13-01-2013 00:37

Will be sad times if HMV close down, I used to get a few CD's and DVD's when in the bundle offers, but once Asda and alike started entertainment products they began to lose business.

Martin Phillp 13-01-2013 00:51

If HMV goes, this leaves the new releases to the supermarkets who will probably start a cartel of pricing while the back catalogue will go to the likes of CeX, Poundland and Morrisons who all sell second hand titles.

Yes, there's online, but there's nothing like delving into HMV's back catalogue in-store.

mintchocchip 13-01-2013 08:57

It will be such a shame if HMV go. There won't be any record stores on the highstreet :(

theonlyweeman 13-01-2013 09:48

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Originally Posted by Martin Phillp (Post 63540287)
If HMV goes, this leaves the new releases to the supermarkets who will probably start a cartel of pricing while the back catalogue will go to the likes of CeX, Poundland and Morrisons who all sell second hand titles.

Yes, there's online, but there's nothing like delving into HMV's back catalogue in-store.

Agreed, I love going in to HMV and having a browse, even though I rarely buy anything. They're screwing themselves over though. I wanted to buy Suits (Season 1) yesterday... £7.50 at Amazon
£28 at HMV

No prizes for guessing who got my custom

If I was HMV here's what I'd do:
1) Drop prices as low as possibe, whilst still covering all costs and debt repayments and perhaps a bit of profit
2) Drop duplicate stores
3) Perhaps look at smaller/cheaper stores
and if things really go to shit I'd look at going on-line only, closing all but the flagship stores and dropping prices to match

wiseguy100 13-01-2013 15:15

HMV will go under within a year i bet. They're trying the same things that Comet did to avoid administration. Only a matter of time.

Wulfster 13-01-2013 18:17

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Originally Posted by PJ68 (Post 63520475)
such a shame if hmv goes. there will hardly be any record shops left.

kids miss out on the excitement of going to a record shop on saturday morning and buying whatever single or album had come out. everything is so readily available now.

haha that makes me sound ancient but i think it's true.

You're not the only ancient one, my friend.

I do the same myself and shop around on Amazon, Zavvi, Shopto, etc for the best prices. But I still sometimes use their (surprisingly) good online delivery when the price is right.

And I still like to go in and browse around for bargains and just to window shop.
I got all the "Elm Street" films on DVD for £7, and all the Basil Rathbone - Sherlock Holmes movies for £9!
I wouldn't have seen those unless I was aimlessly milling around in the store, and it's those impulse buys that will be missed.

Plus the fact I don't want to live in a world where the High Street consists of Starbucks - Cash Converters - Corals repeated all done the street!
In the words of Harry Enfield: "Is that wot you want? 'Cos that's wot'll happen!" :mad:

CLL Dodge 13-01-2013 18:43

The blue cross sale seemed very popular in their Oxford Street store on Saturday. More like the old times.

Smerph 13-01-2013 19:44

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Originally Posted by theonlyweeman (Post 63543241)
Agreed, I love going in to HMV and having a browse, even though I rarely buy anything. They're screwing themselves over though. I wanted to buy Suits (Season 1) yesterday... £7.50 at Amazon
£28 at HMV

No prizes for guessing who got my custom

If I was HMV here's what I'd do:
1) Drop prices as low as possibe, whilst still covering all costs and debt repayments and perhaps a bit of profit
2) Drop duplicate stores
3) Perhaps look at smaller/cheaper stores
and if things really go to shit I'd look at going on-line only, closing all but the flagship stores and dropping prices to match


Any other suggestions, because they're doing all that and it ain't working.

grimtales1 13-01-2013 20:34

I checked some of the "Blue Cross" prices - £12 for some of the Blu Rays was hardly a bargain and could be found cheaper on Amazon.

theonlyweeman 13-01-2013 21:24

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Originally Posted by Smerph (Post 63555153)
Any other suggestions, because they're doing all that and it ain't working.

If £28 is the best they can manage when Amazon can do £7.50 they're beyond saving...

Do we know if HMV use a supplier or go direct? cos I imagine if they were to go direct and point out that the UK's only major high street media retailer is about to go under, they may be able to negotiate a better deal. I wouldn't imagine HMV going under works in anyone's favour really...

chopoff 13-01-2013 21:39

The prices are not discounted, you put a discount code in at the checkout to get the discount.

But yes, even with the discount at checkout, still quite expensive.

Simon Rodgers 13-01-2013 21:39

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Originally Posted by Straker (Post 63517295)
Give it 6-9 months and they wonít be.....

I've heard a lot of backlash over them and their prices are high. Just what are they playing at?

Simon Rodgers 13-01-2013 21:43

In my town, two HMVs have shut down, leaving one and they've also open a HMV Pop Up shop. What's the point of that?

I understand it's a short term thing, but still? They;re not really that cheap even though they have a sale going on.

snoop76 13-01-2013 21:48

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Originally Posted by Simon Rodgers (Post 63559871)
In my town, two HMVs have shut down, leaving one and they've also open a HMV Pop Up shop. What's the point of that?

I understand it's a short term thing, but still? They;re not really that cheap even though they have a sale going on.

Birmingham?

The point of pop up shops is to give a retailer extra selling space for the small (profitable) time of the year that it is needed. Quite sensible business, especially with some of the cheap rent deals out there on the high st.

theonlyweeman 13-01-2013 21:50

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Originally Posted by Simon Rodgers (Post 63559871)
In my town, two HMVs have shut down, leaving one and they've also open a HMV Pop Up shop. What's the point of that?

I understand it's a short term thing, but still? They;re not really that cheap even though they have a sale going on.

Nottingham? Cos they had three branches, a shit one, an alright one and a bloody massive one. They kept the alright one (much to the annoyance of their customers) and closed the other two. They also own Fopp, which has a branch in the town.

blueisthecolour 13-01-2013 22:10

It's a classic scam. There's not much British people love more than a bargain and these sort of 'panic sales' usually get people rushing through the doors (anyone remember the Woolworths closing down sale?). However, like with Woolworths, DVD/CD stock is very easy to resell back to trade so there's no point in HMV taking any kind of serious hit on the price, even if they are about to go into administration.

Higher speed broadband and larger hard drives means that HMV's death is inevitable. We're a pirate nation now . . .


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