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Cheesey Peppers 17-02-2013 13:45

Harry Potter - The best plot and character in each book?
 
Just rereading the whole series and have to say I am enjoying them way more than the films! Totally the reason I went on to bigger books then Roald Dauhl or Jacqueline Wilson!

To answer my own question, it has to be Professor/Potions Master/Defense Against The Dark Arts/Headmaster of Hogwarts Severus Snape! (The only real reason to watch the film was because of Alan Rickman)

Best plot... hummm, just to keep it vague and pick one I would choose... I can't remember as there is far to many thing to remember!

I hope JK Rowling makes another one! I was never pleased with the cheese ending and the fact all 3 of them lived, even Voldemort winning and being at full power would have been interesting!?

wombat18 18-02-2013 02:47

How would you prefer it to end?

I was satisfied with the ending.

Cheesey Peppers 18-02-2013 23:59

I would have wanted Harry Potter to die or the very least at least Ron Weasly or Hermione Granger!
Voldemort winning would have been suitable with me even having a view of him in full power, something we never got to see just like never seeing Headmaster Albus Dumbledore at full power.

sarahj1986 19-02-2013 01:00

For me Snapes whole reasoning behind why he was who he was. I did feel a lump in my throat when he died both in the book and in the film. The book I felt gave more depth but I did feel for him in the end!

wombat18 19-02-2013 02:17

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Originally Posted by Cheesey Peppers (Post 64337671)
I would have wanted Harry Potter to die or the very least at least Ron Weasly or Hermione Granger!
Voldemort winning would have been suitable with me even having a view of him in full power, something we never got to see just like never seeing Headmaster Albus Dumbledore at full power.

I think enough people died, to be honest

wombat18 19-02-2013 02:17

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Originally Posted by sarahj1986 (Post 64338432)
For me Snapes whole reasoning behind why he was who he was. I did feel a lump in my throat when he died both in the book and in the film. The book I felt gave more depth but I did feel for him in the end!

I loved those chapters where Harry saw Snape's memories and we discovered why Snape did what he did.

sarahj1986 19-02-2013 07:17

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Originally Posted by wombat18 (Post 64339023)
I loved those chapters where Harry saw Snape's memories and we discovered why Snape did what he did.

As much as people slate JK Rowling I thought she brought everything together really well throughout the whole series. But Snapes story for me was the best bit.

RyJa 19-02-2013 15:31

I would have loved to have learnt more about Neville Longbottom and Dean Thomas' background.

I believe JK Rowling was planning on writing about Dean in Chamber Of Secrets but didn't end up doing it.

Cheesey Peppers 19-02-2013 16:28

The publishers cut loads out of the book though didn't they? Glad Snape is popular here, amazing creation but don't think Harry would have named his son after him. He was a hero but a very mean, damaged man! Was he really a Slyherin (forgot how to spell it)? I personally think of they all turned out to be nasty people something should have been done about it?

PippaThePenguin 19-02-2013 17:35

Snape's character was definitely the most interesting of the lot - a lot more layers to him than many of the other characters I think.

It would have been nice to have delved into Dumbledore's past a bit more though - I think if I could ask JK Rowling one thing, it would be to write a book about Dumbledore as a young wizard (not necessarily school-age, more late teens/early twenties).

I agree the ending was incredibly cheesy - if I'm honest I tend to forget that bit ever happened. Just seemed unnecessary and tacked on to the end. I think Voldemort winning the day would have been too depressing for me though (but then I'm a sucker for happy endings :D)

Cheesey Peppers 19-02-2013 17:52

I would liked to have seen Dumbledore at full power!

ROWLING2010 19-02-2013 23:56

I really need to reread the series.

Dread to imagine the reaction if she had dared killed off Harry or Ron and Hermione. :eek:

Too many great characters and plots to pick one. I love them all :D

I would have liked to see a bit more backstory to a few characters, Neville's parents for example.

Raquelos. 20-02-2013 03:14

I liked Severus Snape and was quite annoyed that he didn't survive tbh, he was the most heroic character from a grown up perspective, and by far the most interesting.

Always thought the Slytherins were the most interesting characters generally, especially (but not only) the Malfoys, being survivors as they were. That thing of grown up real life being shades of grey rather than the black and white certainties you see as a child/Gryffindor.

I was always a bit gutted that one of the Weasley twins died (can't actually remember which one tbh) The devastation of being the one that survived always got me right there.

Ron always annoyed the crap out of me, utterly unable to form any thoughts independent of his family or received wisdom, I was always quite irritated that Hermione (a good looking, intelligent girl who should have gone on to better things) ended up stuck with him and his ginger minger genes, breeding more Weasleys.

Loved the fact that JK Rowling outed Dumbledore as gay at some book signing, and the fact that he had had an affair with Grindlewald when they were young. Just about alluded to in the books, once JK had said it you could see the back story, but otherwise completely under the radar.

Cheesey Peppers 20-02-2013 10:44

Was it ever confirmed who was meant to be the chosen one to kill Voldemort before he started messing with predictions and changing events? Harry Potter or Neville Longbottom?

sarahj1986 20-02-2013 16:09

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Originally Posted by Cheesey Peppers (Post 64360459)
Was it ever confirmed who was meant to be the chosen one to kill Voldemort before he started messing with predictions and changing events? Harry Potter or Neville Longbottom?

no because Voldemort chose Harry as "the one" it was stated from the info he heard from the prophacy that it was either Harry or Neville and he assumed it was Harry and so in killing his parents and trying to kill him made him "the one"

wombat18 20-02-2013 20:18

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Originally Posted by Cheesey Peppers (Post 64360459)
Was it ever confirmed who was meant to be the chosen one to kill Voldemort before he started messing with predictions and changing events? Harry Potter or Neville Longbottom?

The whole point of the prophecy was that Voldemort would mark one boy as his equal.

So, without Voldemort messing with predictions, nobody would've been marked and the prophecy would have been unfulfilled.

wombat18 20-02-2013 20:20

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Originally Posted by Raquelos. (Post 64358201)
I was always a bit gutted that one of the Weasley twins died (can't actually remember which one tbh) The devastation of being the one that survived always got me right there.

Me too. Especially as it happened so close to the end of the books.

I was always more upset about Fred dying than I was about Dobby.

David Waine 22-02-2013 17:13

I wasn't too disappointed with the ending. Quite happy that all three survived, but felt that the epilogue was a bit of a let-down. I was rather hoping that Voldemort would lose, but survive, shorn of all his power now that his horcruxes are no more and banged up in a muggle prison for the murder of Frank Bryce.

JumpTheShark 22-02-2013 17:24

My favourite plot was the Triwizard Tournament, I liked the structure of that book and all the new characters. Unfortunately that's the point in the series where JK Rowling became too successful for editing and the books became too long, but apart from that I love it.

Professors Lockhart and Slughorn were two of my favourite fleeting characters. Hagrid, Dumbledore and McGonagall are my favourite major but not main characters, and Ron is my favourite main :D

Sifter22 22-02-2013 23:43

I really loved Bellatrix in the books and everything about her. Did anyone also think Harry fancied her a bit until she killed Sirius? It kept mentioning gazing at posters of her.

Big Boy Barry 23-02-2013 06:15

Harry's gushing attitude towards Snape at the end of the final book was absurd. This is the person directly responsible for his parent's death, who made life miserable for him for seven years, and only helped him grudgingly due to a fixation on his mother. The idea that Harry would name his child after him was laughable.


The best plot was Voldemort's origin

The best character was Bellatrix Lestrange

RAINBOWGIRL22 23-02-2013 07:22

The ending kind of annoyed me, so much so that when I re-read the last book I don't read the last chapter :o:o

I loved Dumbledore as a character, and he who shall not be named :D

JumpTheShark 23-02-2013 21:42

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Originally Posted by Big Boy Barry (Post 64418042)
Harry's gushing attitude towards Snape at the end of the final book was absurd. This is the person directly responsible for his parent's death, who made life miserable for him for seven years, and only helped him grudgingly due to a fixation on his mother. The idea that Harry would name his child after him was laughable.

I agree. Snape's behaviour was absolutely terrible and it's one of the darker aspects of Dumbledore's personality that allowed him to treat Harry the way he did for all those years. Whilst it was understandable, it was not excusable, and I didn't like that Snape was supposedly all forgiven.

gemma-the-husky 23-02-2013 22:10

lets face it

relatively poor books, milked for all they were worth - which was a helluva lot.

haphash 24-02-2013 00:00

The HP books are stuffed full of excellent characters making it almost impossible for me to pick. My favourite stand alone book is the 'Prisoner of Azkaban'. Sirius and Lupin are both introduced and they were both great. Sirius was a firm favourite of mine until his death.

Shame about the casting in the film though. Gary Oldman is a good actor but he wasn't right as Sirius IMO. He should have been taller, better looking and a bit more charming in a rakish sort of way.


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