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spookyLX 25-03-2013 15:06

Jim Carrey incurring the wrath from Gun owners
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...Dead-Hand.html

Not sure what to make of this tbh not sure if he really feels this way or has a new film on the way out .

Tho one thing for sure is Jim stopped being funny along time ago

here is the song , not great but the comments underneath are quite amusing as they all seem to be pro Gun etc
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/043...eatured_videos

downtonfan 25-03-2013 17:04

Gun owners will not listen to reason. They slate Gabrielle Giffords for starting a pac which calls for background checks. Is that not a sensible solution to criminals getting their hands on guns?

Saltydog1955 25-03-2013 17:11

This is more relevant to the anti gun argument than Carrey's stupid song. If Heston hadn't been dead 5 years it might have added something to the debate but now?

Meh.

TVGirl319 25-03-2013 17:12

He tried to get on his political "High Horse" a few years ago, when he was dating model and actress Jenny McCarthy!! Her son, Evan, was diagnosed with autism, and in her airy fairy mind she linked it to infant vaccines and a gluten diet. Anyway, her and Jim started campaigning for cleaner, safer infant vaccines free of additives, etc. and they took their cause to talk shows, medical shows, appearances on Oprah, Larry King Live on CNN and even to Congress and the White House!! Started online petitions and protests outside pharmacies, pharmacuetical companies, etc. But it was all to no avail, as prominent expert researchers could find no substantiated evidence to link infant vaccines to autism!!

Jim Carrey is a dopehead who wouldnt know how to be serious on certain subjects if it slapped him up the ass!!

gold2040 25-03-2013 17:26

From what I gathered from the comments Jim pays armed security guards to protect his home nad tweeted that he has a armed cop (probably retired) as his bodyguard so if that's the case then he truly has egg on his face

Residents Fan 26-03-2013 13:40

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Originally Posted by gold2040 (Post 64984692)
From what I gathered from the comments Jim pays armed security guards to protect his home nad tweeted that he has a armed cop (probably retired) as his bodyguard so if that's the case then he truly has egg on his face

I don't see any contradiction about Carrey having armed security guards and being anti-NRA.
Security guards have guns in a law-enforcement capacity, and they've been psychologically checked so they won't go off on crazy gun rampages.

It's different from people taking issue with the fact the NRA wants to give US civilians access to the sort of firepower other First World nations restrict to the Military.

AliU2maniac 01-04-2013 19:05

Lefties don't mention Chicago.Why?
 
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct...,d.d2k&cad=rja

Aren't guns illegal in Chicago? Don't potential gun owners not go through background checks? Isn't it illegal for youngsters to own guns in Chicago? Isn't Chicago supposed to be safe now because of strict gun laws? Why isn't Jim Carrey and other Hollywood hypocrites angry about this or do they not care about black on black crime?

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It's different from people taking issue with the fact the NRA wants to give US civilians access to the sort of firepower other First World nations restrict to the Military
Wrong.The NRA want law abiding American citizens to be able to exercise their God-given right to bear arms as is stated in the 2nd Amendment.Civilians should not have their rights restricted while criminals BREAK THE LAW to obtain more powerful weapons off the black market.

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Security guards have guns in a law-enforcement capacity, and they've been psychologically checked so they won't go off on crazy gun rampages
Really? They never will because they're security guards? Cops are checked, too, right? Christopher Dorner, remember him :rolleyes:

theonlyweeman 01-04-2013 19:13

Edit: Deleted. It's not a good idea to get political on here...

mickmars 02-04-2013 02:22

It was better in the old days when celebs said nothing about political matters.
Being able to pull funny faces does not mean you are an expert in anything,except pulling funny faces

downtonfan 02-04-2013 13:39

It was better in the old days when nutters couldn't get hold of high capacity assault weapons to blow away innocent people.

Grace In Love 02-04-2013 14:00

The NRA are a bunch of nutters

Residents Fan 02-04-2013 19:42

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Originally Posted by AliU2maniac (Post 65117961)
.The NRA want law abiding American citizens to be able to exercise their God-given right to bear arms as is stated in the 2nd Amendment.

So God wrote the US Constitution now?

TVGirl319 03-04-2013 08:26

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Originally Posted by Grace In Love (Post 65133094)
The NRA are a bunch of nutters

One of their main kingpin leaders happens to be veteran '70s rocker, Ted Nugent(He was a member of a band called Amboy Dukes as well as he had a couple of albums out, one being called Cat Scratch Fever). Hes as criminally insane as the rest of them!! He took over the NRA from where Charlton Heston left off when he died!!

Coincidently, in the wake of the Newtown school shootings and his rants on freedom to bare arms and spouting off his rights as a free American citizen he had an outdoorsy, weapons type show, which was aired on one of the Discovery or Nat Geo channels, of his recently cancelled in the USA!!

spubbbba 03-04-2013 11:55

The song itself was pretty lame and not very clever.

But the massive over reaction by pro gun advocates in the Republican party and on Fox News has been hilarious. They should have just ignored Jim as all they’ve done is give him and the website loads of free publicity.

theonlyweeman 03-04-2013 12:06

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Originally Posted by Residents Fan (Post 65140040)
So God wrote the US Constitution now?

As a Christian, I'd love to know how God can be anti-violence and pro-gun, but I doubt I'll get an explanation, they seem to think shouting loudly (but saying nothing) is good enough to win the "debate".

sammyvine 03-04-2013 12:08

Can someone tell me why American people need to own large capacity magazine and assault weapons like the sandy hook gunman used?

Miriam_R 03-04-2013 12:14

I think Jim is very brave for doing this, especially in a country where owning a gun is as normal as owning a car (as my dad's friend said when he was living there for a period).

theonlyweeman 03-04-2013 12:18

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Originally Posted by sammyvine (Post 65151796)
Can someone tell me why American people need to own large capacity magazine and assault weapons like the sandy hook gunman used?

"the only way to stop a bad with a gun, is a good guy with a gun"

(Actual quote from Wayne LaPierre, head of the NRA)

Residents Fan 03-04-2013 12:47

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Originally Posted by TVGirl319 (Post 65149504)
One of their main kingpin leaders happens to be veteran '70s rocker, Ted Nugent(He was a member of a band called Amboy Dukes as well as he had a couple of albums out, one being called Cat Scratch Fever). Hes as criminally insane as the rest of them!! He took over the NRA from where Charlton Heston left off when he died!!

Coincidently, in the wake of the Newtown school shootings and his rants on freedom to bare arms and spouting off his rights as a free American citizen he had an outdoorsy, weapons type show, which was aired on one of the Discovery or Nat Geo channels, of his recently cancelled in the USA!!

Yes. In an alarming example of the political authoritarianism
of the extreme right in America, Nugent also stated:

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"If it was up to me, if you uttered the word 'gun control,' we'd put you in jail."
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7402SL20110501

theonlyweeman 03-04-2013 15:11

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Originally Posted by Residents Fan (Post 65152318)
Yes. In an alarming example of the political authoritarianism
of the extreme right in America, Nugent also stated:



http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7402SL20110501

I think the line afterwards was better....

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"Does anybody not know that the most dangerous place in the world is a gun-free zone?"

summertime09 03-04-2013 23:07

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Originally Posted by gold2040 (Post 64984692)
From what I gathered from the comments Jim pays armed security guards to protect his home nad tweeted that he has a armed cop (probably retired) as his bodyguard so if that's the case then he truly has egg on his face

Great point!! and I might add, so do most "Hollyweird" hypocrites!! Michael Moores bodyguard was arrested with an unlicensed firearm at an airport, you just couldn't make it up!!! I would have a tad respect for these hypocrites if they would look to their own industry as playing a part in the issue!!!

theonlyweeman 04-04-2013 19:05

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Originally Posted by summertime09 (Post 65164937)
Great point!! and I might add, so do most "Hollyweird" hypocrites!! Michael Moores bodyguard was arrested with an unlicensed firearm at an airport, you just couldn't make it up!!! I would have a tad respect for these hypocrites if they would look to their own industry as playing a part in the issue!!!

Canda gets exactly the same media as the US it has a homicide by firearm rater per 100, 00 pop" of 0.51 (56th highest), the US has a rate of 2.97 (28th highest). The difference, the US has 88.8 guns per 100 people, Canada has 30.8 per 100 people.

Canada has exactly the same media, but significantly less murders. Media is not the primary factor, infact given the amount of media crossover between the US and Canada I'd be tempted to suggest it's not even a factor.

Figures taken from this article on the Guaurdian website: http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datab...hip-world-list

Saltydog1955 04-04-2013 19:20

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Originally Posted by theonlyweeman (Post 65178239)
Canda gets exactly the same media as the US it has a homicide by firearm rater per 100, 00 pop" of 0.51 (56th highest), the US has a rate of 2.97 (28th highest). The difference, the US has 88.8 guns per 100 people, Canada has 30.8 per 100 people.

Canada has exactly the same media, but significantly less murders. Media is not the primary factor, infact given the amount of media crossover between the US and Canada I'd be tempted to suggest it's not even a factor.

Figures taken from this article on the Guaurdian website: http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datab...hip-world-list

.....and possibly because Canada doesn't have a constitution that witters on about the public's right to bear arms. Yes, the people of the US might have the right to bear arms, but that shouldn't mean assault rifles, machine guns, AK47's, Uzis, grenades galore, 1000s of rounds of ammo.....like that lunatic mother of the Sandy Hook killer.

summertime09 04-04-2013 22:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by theonlyweeman (Post 65178239)
Canda gets exactly the same media as the US it has a homicide by firearm rater per 100, 00 pop" of 0.51 (56th highest), the US has a rate of 2.97 (28th highest). The difference, the US has 88.8 guns per 100 people, Canada has 30.8 per 100 people.

Canada has exactly the same media, but significantly less murders. Media is not the primary factor, infact given the amount of media crossover between the US and Canada I'd be tempted to suggest it's not even a factor.

Figures taken from this article on the Guaurdian website: http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datab...hip-world-list

My point was really that I would think in the whole debate nothing should be off the table, the effect violent films, games and music have on certain individuals. I would be very interested to know HOW can two teenagers be so desensitised that they can shoot a baby in the face!!! something is very wrong. How people with mental health issues are treated (or NOT) is also a major part of the problem.

theonlyweeman 04-04-2013 23:13

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Originally Posted by summertime09 (Post 65184377)
My point was really that I would think in the whole debate nothing should be off the table, the effect violent films, games and music have on certain individuals. I would be very interested to know HOW can two teenagers be so desensitised that they can shoot a baby in the face!!! something is very wrong. How people with mental health issues are treated (or NOT) is also a major part of the problem.

My point was that whilst media and glorification of violence was a factor to be considered, the NRA's position that everything is the fault of Hollywood and mental illness is wrong.

Another factor that should be looked at is access to inappropriate material, in the UK content can be banned from distribution or restricted, whereas the constitution prevents that from happening in the US, so anybody can access anything. (Though obviously that might involve some twisting of the constitution, which Americans hate.)

I'd also like to know why, if the NRA blames mental health issues for mass murders, they won't accept gun licenses or mental health checks on people that try to buy firearms. I'd have thought reducing the number of mentally ill people with guns would work in their favour...


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