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andersonsonson 30-03-2013 19:34

Archos 70 Titanium, Nexus 7 or Hyundai T7, which one?
 
I'm going to buy a cheapish tablet but want something fast.

Archos 70 Titanium - £110(expansys) aluminium body, light, 1.6ghz dual core, Mali 400mp

Nexus 7, £160, quad core 1.2ghz, great gpu...

Hyundai T7 (can get them from China easily) quad core exynos 1.4ghz, IPS, great resolution, £100

alan1302 30-03-2013 21:55

I've just bought a Nexus 7 and for the money you can't go wrong with it as it's very fast and has an excellent screen. Well worth the money.

Unless you can try out the Archos or Hyundai I'd not go with either as in my experience cheap tablets are cheap for a reason.

cnbcwatcher 30-03-2013 22:44

I would go for the Nexus 7. I don't have one but I've heard good things about it. The other two sound a bit dodgy to me.

Mr. Cool 30-03-2013 22:47

The Hyundai T7 apparently has good performance but it's running Android 4.0 and even a reviewer managed to brick the device while performing an update. I can't imagine support being good either.

The Archos Titanium uses a Rockchip processor which isn't as fast as the Tegra 3 found in the Nexus 7 or the Exynos found in the Hyundai T7. Archos aren't renowned for their support either.

I'd probably be inclined to go for the Nexus 7 primarily because it's build quality, support and performance are all excellent (especially for the price). Another advantage is that it's a Nexus device (meaning fast updates)...

Hope this helps.

paulbrock 31-03-2013 06:17

yup Nexus 7 for fast updates, greater compatibility with apps (even the abysmal Sky Go runs on N7, it won't on the other two)

andersonsonson 31-03-2013 14:17

thanks guys, I went for the Titanium in the end as it was £100 compared to £165 of the Nexus, didn't think the Nexus was £65 better. Titanium is 60g lighter, thinner, and hopefully it performs quite well

Mr. Cool 31-03-2013 21:09

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Originally Posted by andersonsonson (Post 65093457)
thanks guys, I went for the Titanium in the end as it was £100 compared to £165 of the Nexus, didn't think the Nexus was £65 better. Titanium is 60g lighter, thinner, and hopefully it performs quite well

It most certainly is £65 better. It has better support, build quality, performance and more...

You will be lucky if you see a stable update (or an update at all) from Archos.

andersonsonson 01-04-2013 14:47

Mr Cool, 1.2ghz quad core vs 1.6ghz dual core(archos)? surely archos is faster?

build quality - I disagree, the archos is thinner, 60g lighter and has a titanium body.

support - nexus always wins

alan1302 01-04-2013 17:32

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Originally Posted by andersonsonson (Post 65112455)
Mr Cool, 1.2ghz quad core vs 1.6ghz dual core(archos)? surely archos is faster?

build quality - I disagree, the archos is thinner, 60g lighter and has a titanium body.

support - nexus always wins

Depends on the processor - so not always and depends on the RAM as well as Android likes a lot of that 1GB min to get the most out of it.

The Archos is definitely not made of Titanium.

Voynich 01-04-2013 17:48

Archos come up with great ideas but their support is sometimes lacking. It's like they design something, release it and then right away rush off to design something new and ignore existing products.

andersonsonson 01-04-2013 17:49

sorry aluminium lol

"With its sleek aluminium casing, ARCHOS 70 Titanium is stylish, thin and light. At just 8.6 mm (0.34") thick and weighing only 280 g (0.61 pounds) it’s the perfect tablet for your Android™ experience."

alan1302 01-04-2013 19:29

Another thing the cheaper tablets tend to have poor screen - both in not looking as good and not as responsive and I think the screen is the most important thing with a tablet.

Mr. Cool 01-04-2013 20:13

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Originally Posted by andersonsonson (Post 65112455)
Mr Cool, 1.2ghz quad core vs 1.6ghz dual core(archos)? surely archos is faster?

build quality - I disagree, the archos is thinner, 60g lighter and has a titanium body.

support - nexus always wins

No, clock speed isn't everything. The Tegra 3 found in the Nexus 7 is far faster than the Rockchip processor found in the Archos Titanium. Tegra 3 is also a quad-core processor. Battery life is also probably longer on the Nexus 7 as well.

Archos' track record regarding build quality isn't good. The 'Titanium' body is probably aluminium or shiny plastic. Build quality doesn't mean thinner, it means if the plastic creaks etc.

Also, Archos quite frequently release buggy firmware updates and release devices poorly optimised for their hardware which also won't help performance-wise.

Mr. Cool 01-04-2013 20:15

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Originally Posted by alan1302 (Post 65118843)
Another thing the cheaper tablets tend to have poor screen - both in not looking as good and not as responsive and I think the screen is the most important thing with a tablet.

I agree.

I think the Titanium lacks an IPS panel (meaning poorer viewing angles). Something which the Nexus 7 has.

andersonsonson 01-04-2013 20:54

Titanium is an IPS panel!, £95 from dabs, bargain!

Mr. Cool 01-04-2013 20:56

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Originally Posted by andersonsonson (Post 65121673)
Titanium is an IPS panel!, £95 from dabs, bargain!

Not compared to the Nexus 7 it's not. Even with an IPS panel.

alan1302 01-04-2013 22:04

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Originally Posted by andersonsonson (Post 65121673)
Titanium is an IPS panel!, £95 from dabs, bargain!

Let us know how you find it when you get it.

TelevisionUser 01-04-2013 22:21

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Originally Posted by alan1302 (Post 65123596)
Let us know how you find it when you get it.

...and, if there are any issues, there's always advice available:

http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/consumer_e
http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/dis...htsbuying1.pdf
http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/738..._explained.pdf

alan1302 01-04-2013 22:28

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Originally Posted by TelevisionUser (Post 65124113)

They won't help if it's just a poor tablet though

TelevisionUser 01-04-2013 22:53

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Originally Posted by alan1302 (Post 65124322)
They won't help if it's just a poor tablet though

In the event that any tablet of any brand is not of fit and merchantable quality and needs replacing or a full refund then such consumer advice could indeed turn out to be useful. The threat of involving the local trading standards department and BBC Watchdog can also work wonders when the need arises.

The Sack 02-04-2013 14:56

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Originally Posted by andersonsonson (Post 65093457)
thanks guys, I went for the Titanium in the end as it was £100 compared to £165 of the Nexus, didn't think the Nexus was £65 better. Titanium is 60g lighter, thinner, and hopefully it performs quite well

I bought an Archos 80 Titanium and loved it to little bits but the WiFi was shocking, it would drop from 35Mbit to a crawl and then zoom back up and then back to a crawl for no reason whatsoever even if i stood next to the access point so you ended up with buffering all the time.

I ended up getting a Nexus 7 but had the Archos been ok i would rather had that, better build, screen only slightly worse, felt as fast, if not faster than the Nexus 7 in use. In fact the only benefit of the Nexus 7 is the better battery life and i am not sure the extra 70 quid i paid was worth that. Of course the faster updates that people are going to bang on about but i cant say i noticed a massive difference between 4.1 and 4.2

Ultraman1966 02-04-2013 18:33

The difference between 4.1 and 4.2 are mainly functional in terms of the UI so you won't "feel" any difference (unlike ICS to JB). Out of the three I'd definitely have chosen the Nexus 7. It's basically subsidised by Google as it has a lot of the qualities you'd find in a premium device but at an affordable price. Sure you can skimp out and get an Archos but in the long run you'll regret it.

andersonsonson 02-04-2013 19:07

i think you underestimate the archos, I will post a review once I receive it

alan1302 02-04-2013 19:09

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Originally Posted by TelevisionUser (Post 65125149)
In the event that any tablet of any brand is not of fit and merchantable quality and needs replacing or a full refund then such consumer advice could indeed turn out to be useful. The threat of involving the local trading standards department and BBC Watchdog can also work wonders when the need arises.

There is a difference between a poor tablet and one that does not work as intended though. Most of the cheaper tablets are fine to use but you can just get something much better for only a few quid more.

alan1302 02-04-2013 19:10

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Originally Posted by andersonsonson (Post 65138977)
i think you underestimate the archos, I will post a review once I receive it

I think you overestimate it :D


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