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JEFF62 04-09-2013 19:07

Who Gets The Bond Film Rights Next?
 
With Sky losing the rights to show the bond films at the end of this month does anyone know which channel gets them next? All the films except Skyfall are showing an expiry date of 30th September 2013 on the On Demand service and I seem to remember that the deal was for one year. So where will they go next? Surely not back to ITV? Could BBC get them at last? Or could Sky renew the deal at the last minute. Anyone know?

Jonwo 05-09-2013 03:55

I imagine ITV will likely regain terrestrial rights, I imagine it would be too expensive for The BBC, Channel 4 and Channel 5 to obtain. Bond has been shown on ITV since they have started showing them as terrestrial premieres aside from Her Majesty's Secret Service which I believe the BBC showed as a one-off.

JEFF62 05-09-2013 07:43

In fact every bond film premiered on itv including OHMSS which premiered in September 1978. As far as I remember bbc1 have shown the unofficial film never say never again but that too premiered originally on itv. They did have a one off screening of from Russia with love on bbc2 about four years ago as part of some season.

If they do go back on itv I can see them making a big deal of it. Bond is back where he belongs or something like that!

Irma Bunt 05-09-2013 07:56

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Originally Posted by JEFF62 (Post 68460117)
In fact every bond film premiered on itv including OHMSS which premiered in September 1978. As far as I remember bbc1 have shown the unofficial film never say never again but that too premiered originally on itv. They did have a one off screening of from Russia with love on bbc2 about four years ago as part of some season.

If they do go back on itv I can see them making a big deal of it. Bond is back where he belongs or something like that!

You are correct. The BBC have never shown On Her Majesty's Secret Service. The only official Bond film they have shown is From Russia With Love as a special one-off. The execrable, unoffical Never Say Never Again doesn't count, of course.

Eddie Badger 05-09-2013 09:14

ITV will be sharpening their scissors so they can get back to hacking the Bond films to bits as usual.

Chasing Shadows 05-09-2013 09:28

BBC2 have shown the original Casino Royale (the David Niven, non-EON Productions one) several times.

-GONZO- 05-09-2013 09:34

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Originally Posted by Chasing Shadows (Post 68460927)
BBC2 have shown the original Casino Royale (the David Niven, non-EON Productions one) several times.

Which means nowt considering its not part of the 007 franchise.

owenmahamilton 05-09-2013 09:38

I expect itv will get them back but it would be nice for them to be on bbc for a change, no adverts!

Chasing Shadows 05-09-2013 09:50

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Originally Posted by -GONZO- (Post 68460999)
Which means nowt considering its not part of the 007 franchise.

It may not be part of the EON productions franchise, but it, like Never Say Never Again, has been part of the exclusive Sky Bond Movies showings, and so will be up for grabs at the end of the month when Sky lose the rights to show it.

Lathamite 05-09-2013 14:28

Happy for them to go back to ITV. I don't particularly like the channel, but they seem to belong there and it's how I discovered the films when I was young.

And, considering the age of some of these films, they put them in good slots.

Btw, it's actually quite a novelty to see these films on DVD or BD and see bits you haven't seen, because you grew up with VHS recordings of ITV showings. Hack away, ITV!

coulsontom 06-09-2013 12:47

Seems daft for Sky to make a big thing of it then lose them. Surely they will want them for when the next film comes out as well.

Paddy C 06-09-2013 14:38

I could tolerate them being on ITV again only if the new deal means they get OAR versions of the films and they stop cutting them. Like either of those two will ever happen though!

fhs man 2 06-09-2013 20:57

If BBC got the rights you would never see them again BBC hardly ever show movies they just like having the rights and never showing them. OK they might show them once but there will be years between showings.

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theonlyweeman 06-09-2013 21:01

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Originally Posted by fhs man 2 (Post 68494283)
If BBC got the rights you would never see them again BBC hardly ever show movies they just like having the rights and never showing them.

Really? It rarely seems there's a week when they aren't showing Cars for some reason...

fhs man 2 06-09-2013 21:03

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Originally Posted by theonlyweeman (Post 68494407)
Really? It rarely seems there's a week when they aren't showing Cars for some reason...

If you look at how many film deals BBC have they have a massive catalogue of films they never show.

I remember watching Twins on BBC One years ago (around 2005/2006) for the first time but that is now on ITV.

I doubt Sky will want to re-new the contract the novelty has worn off for them. They won't want them any more.

Jonwo 06-09-2013 22:41

Sky will continue with the PayTV rights for Bond but it does not make sense financially for MGM to sell the rights exclusively to one provider when they can make more money selling them individually. I have no doubt that ITV will show Skyfall once they get the rights back.

Think Bond is one of the few franchises which are sold separately from other film output deals, Star Wars, Potter and Indiana Jones are the others. I wonder if Disney will sell Marvel and the upcoming Star Wars films separate from their other films or bundle them together.

theonlyweeman 06-09-2013 22:48

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Originally Posted by Jonwo (Post 68498055)
Sky will continue with the PayTV rights for Bond but it does not make sense financially for MGM to sell the rights exclusively to one provider when they can make more money selling them individually. I have no doubt that ITV will show Skyfall once they get the rights back.

Think Bond is one of the few franchises which are sold separately from other film output deals, Star Wars, Potter and Indiana Jones are the others. I wonder if Disney will sell Marvel and the upcoming Star Wars films separate from their other films or bundle them together.

I would imagine Star Wars and Indiana Jones are only separate because Lucasfilm owns them outright, rather than them being studio owned (before the Disney acquisition of course)

theonlyweeman 06-09-2013 22:53

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Originally Posted by fhs man 2 (Post 68494485)
If you look at how many film deals BBC have they have a massive catalogue of films they never show.

I remember watching Twins on BBC One years ago (around 2005/2006) for the first time but that is now on ITV.

I doubt Sky will want to re-new the contract the novelty has worn off for them. They won't want them any more.

The BBC have all of BBC Films and DreamWorks Animation. As well as selected titles from Disney, DreamWorks* and indie companies like Sony Pictures Classics and Pathe.

*They have everything DreamWorks have the rights for, but a lot of DW's catalogue are co-productions for which somebody else has the rights

A lot of that does get some airing, and even Channel 4 who have a massive library (Fox, Paramount, Studiocanal, Relativity Media, Momentum, Film4, Entertainment One, MGM and selected films from Sony Pictures, Disney and EFD) repeat themselves.

James_Monnelly 18-09-2013 22:11

It has been refreshing to see the films unspoilt on Sky however there is nothing like a wet bank holiday Monday with Bond being on ITV

Dar W 18-09-2013 23:07

Anyone but ITV or Channel 5.The BBC could do a season on BBC2 or BBC4 with the older ones and put the newer ones on BBC1 or 3 and they seem to be showing a lot of films in OAR lately.
Or a season on Film 4 would be good too

fhs man 2 18-09-2013 23:48

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Originally Posted by Dar W (Post 68745077)
Anyone but ITV or Channel 5.The BBC could do a season on BBC2 or BBC4 with the older ones and put the newer ones on BBC1 or 3 and they seem to be showing a lot of films in OAR lately.
Or a season on Film 4 would be good too

What does that stand for???

CJClarke 19-09-2013 00:00

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Originally Posted by fhs man 2 (Post 68745632)
What does that stand for???

OAR = Original Aspect Ratio.

ITV always cropped them from the original aspect ratio to fill a widescreen TV by removing the black borders, essentially chopping out a sizeable chunk of the image on the left and right in the process. Sky on the other hand have been showing them as they were meant to be shown.

theonlyweeman 19-09-2013 00:07

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Originally Posted by CJClarke (Post 68745798)
OAR = Original Aspect Ratio.

ITV always cropped them from the original aspect ratio to fill a widescreen TV by removing the black borders, essentially chopping out a sizeable chunk of the image on the left and right in the process. Sky on the other hand have been showing them as they were meant to be shown.

I thought they'd shown the cropped IMAX version of Skyfall?

CJClarke 19-09-2013 00:10

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Originally Posted by theonlyweeman (Post 68745918)
I thought they'd shown the cropped IMAX version of Skyfall?

The IMAX version wasnt cropped, it was actually opened up so that more of the image was visible. So technically the 2:35:1 version shown in standard cinemas (and on DVD/Blu Ray) was actually the "cropped" version, although that version is how the film was intended to be seen as the additional picture on the IMAX version was pretty superfluous.

Steve9214 19-09-2013 23:57

Never say Never Again
 
EON now own all the rights to every Bond film, including NSNA and the Original Casino Royale so they control everything Bond.

Excellent article here on "non bonds"

http://www.popmatters.com/column/163...th-james-bond/


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