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Forum: General Discussion 23-04-2015, 19:20
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Posted By Devon Miles
I'll tell you what's crazy and doesn't make...

I'll tell you what's crazy and doesn't make sense:

1. A throw that you were struggle to achieve in perfect circumstances but OK freaky things happen it could end up where it did by a fluke in the...
Forum: General Discussion 22-04-2015, 20:46
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Posted By Devon Miles
That's mrtg82 I think! :D

That's mrtg82 I think! :D
Forum: General Discussion 22-04-2015, 20:44
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Posted By Devon Miles
I do see your point but I don't agree they are...

I do see your point but I don't agree they are ultimately comparable. The shooter wasn't on trial for murder and cleared.

As I have said before it's the only independent police investigation...
Forum: General Discussion 22-04-2015, 16:03
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Posted By Devon Miles
Thanks for the info and advice!

Thanks for the info and advice!
Forum: General Discussion 22-04-2015, 15:59
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Posted By Devon Miles
Yes it would..

Yes it would..
Forum: General Discussion 22-04-2015, 14:15
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Posted By Devon Miles
New angles could always come up - there's no...

New angles could always come up - there's no reason why 2 x trials + an inquest = exhaustive list of questions. As the IPCC themselves said:

"To examine further whether V53ís belief was honestly...
Forum: General Discussion 22-04-2015, 12:51
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Posted By Devon Miles
Sorry - no you didn't.. IPCC is independent...

Sorry - no you didn't..

IPCC is independent though - which is the whole point I would have thought. You have an 'independent' investigating body but they in this case have to rely on a non...
Forum: General Discussion 22-04-2015, 12:09
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Posted By Devon Miles
I noticed in the IPCC report the issue of...

I noticed in the IPCC report the issue of planting seemed to be more focused on discounting the gun being thrown or kicked by officers. Didn't make sense to me, it was like they were building a false...
Forum: General Discussion 22-04-2015, 12:04
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Posted By Devon Miles
Really? You don't see the benefit of a face to...

Really? You don't see the benefit of a face to face interview with an investigator for getting to the bottom of the story? Just because he's previously been interviewed by the inquest surely there is...
Forum: General Discussion 22-04-2015, 11:59
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Posted By Devon Miles
I imagine that you as an ex police officer can...

I imagine that you as an ex police officer can appreciate that sometimes investigators would like to see the 'whites of his eyes' so to speak - really get a feel for him at close range.

Re legality...
Forum: General Discussion 22-04-2015, 11:53
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Posted By Devon Miles
Being under stress and upset should not preclude...

Being under stress and upset should not preclude an officer responsible for a fatal shooting from being interviewed face to face by the investigating body. (imo of course)

I won't dignify your last...
Forum: General Discussion 22-04-2015, 11:49
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Posted By Devon Miles
I can't really think of a way of making it any...

I can't really think of a way of making it any clearer apart from just repeating myself.. I'll give it one last go. The report shows how they came to their conclusion or even if you prefer - why they...
Forum: General Discussion 18-04-2015, 22:44
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Posted By Devon Miles
Indeed- he was probably very stressed by it all!...

Indeed- he was probably very stressed by it all! So not a problem for you either then I take it?

This is the sort of thing that makes me laugh about about DS - 2 factions on either side of the...
Forum: General Discussion 18-04-2015, 22:36
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Posted By Devon Miles
I've no idea- I didn't expect them to be able to...

I've no idea- I didn't expect them to be able to explain how their conclusion was different but you encouraged me to read the report and see their explanation why when you said:





I wasn't...
Forum: General Discussion 17-04-2015, 12:14
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Posted By Devon Miles
Thanks for that. This demonstrates how they came...

Thanks for that. This demonstrates how they came to their conclusion - not really seeing a 'why it's different' though just an acknowledgment that it is a different conclusion. They do go on to...
Forum: General Discussion 16-04-2015, 11:18
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Posted By Devon Miles
Yes I see all this. My point was that you seem to...

Yes I see all this. My point was that you seem to suggesting that the IPCC conclusion is based on V53's initial statement - rather that based on full knowledge of all the info over all the timelines...
Forum: General Discussion 15-04-2015, 21:47
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Posted By Devon Miles
so you suggest that the ipcc conclusion is based...

so you suggest that the ipcc conclusion is based on what v53 thinks he saw rather than reviewing the same evidence as the jury (with access to all the post shooting facts). ?
Forum: General Discussion 15-04-2015, 21:44
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Posted By Devon Miles
so no de-bunking as such then.Just an officer...

so no de-bunking as such then.Just an officer saying he wouldn't do such a thing - i guess the jury believed him..
Forum: General Discussion 15-04-2015, 21:39
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Posted By Devon Miles
could you or anyone else (who's reading and...

could you or anyone else (who's reading and knows) point me in the direction of where to find this please - i'd be interested to see how that went

eta seen your link cheers
Forum: General Discussion 15-04-2015, 21:37
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Posted By Devon Miles
well the ipcc concluded that he was in the...

well the ipcc concluded that he was in the process of throwing it when shot..

but regardless of that a gun found in a taxi removes the grey area of he came out of the vehicle armed. Therefore it is...
Forum: General Discussion 15-04-2015, 21:35
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Posted By Devon Miles
was that detailed in transcripts made public do...

was that detailed in transcripts made public do you know?
Forum: General Discussion 15-04-2015, 21:27
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Posted By Devon Miles
if they found it in the taxi then they would have...

if they found it in the taxi then they would have clearly shot an unarmed man.

the location is utterly obvious to me - just about the only place where it could have been inconspicuously planted
Forum: General Discussion 15-04-2015, 21:19
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Posted By Devon Miles
again, it puzzles me how casually this difference...

again, it puzzles me how casually this difference in conclusion in regarded in some parts,

I don't think of the gun plant angle as a CT myself well more a pcut -panicky cover up theory.. earlier...
Forum: General Discussion 15-04-2015, 12:51
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Posted By Devon Miles
We've all got opinions! These were conclusions...

We've all got opinions! These were conclusions though I think? Not guesses..
Forum: General Discussion 15-04-2015, 12:37
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Posted By Devon Miles
well they can't both be right can they..

well they can't both be right can they..
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