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Forum: General Discussion 16-07-2014, 21:44
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Posted By Bus Stop2012
I see that you're once again misrepresenting...

I see that you're once again misrepresenting someone. I'm pretty sure that the words 'might have been possible in the first place' do not indicate one way or the other what porky's opinion...
Forum: General Discussion 16-07-2014, 20:08
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Posted By Bus Stop2012
No, thats quite a distance. No wonder Burger...

No, thats quite a distance.

No wonder Burger couldn't be bothered to get up and go out herself :D
Forum: General Discussion 16-07-2014, 19:49
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Posted By Bus Stop2012
Really? I don't think I've ever seen or heard a...

Really? I don't think I've ever seen or heard a description of their house and balcony.
Forum: General Discussion 16-07-2014, 19:42
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Posted By Bus Stop2012
Yes, I've been aware of this case for a while....

Yes, I've been aware of this case for a while. The sentence was wholly suspended, but a factor there was that the deceased's family supported it.
Forum: General Discussion 16-07-2014, 19:12
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Posted By Bus Stop2012
What were you referring to as 'agreeable'? I'm...

What were you referring to as 'agreeable'? I'm failing to perceive a misunderstanding here.



Absolutely. At least that poster is upfront about it, I guess.
Forum: General Discussion 16-07-2014, 17:01
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Posted By Bus Stop2012
This is true. However, its been too frequently...

This is true. However, its been too frequently overlooked that OP's account of going onto the balcony to call 'help, help, help' is substantiated by Dr Stipp, who heard it and described it as coming...
Forum: General Discussion 16-07-2014, 16:54
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Posted By Bus Stop2012
This is why I don't think there is really any...

This is why I don't think there is really any point in you quoting my posts and purporting to respond to them; you don't take any time at all to read and comprehend, even though I keep it short and...
Forum: General Discussion 16-07-2014, 08:17
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Views: 144,049
Posted By Bus Stop2012
No. Dr Stipp is the most reliable witness. He...

No. Dr Stipp is the most reliable witness. He has stated his credentials/experience of gunshot noise. He says these woke him. He confirmed to his wife that they were gunshots. It was after the...
Forum: General Discussion 16-07-2014, 07:53
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Posted By Bus Stop2012
The fact that everyone here and elsewhere has...

The fact that everyone here and elsewhere has been trying to make the state's case 'fit' shows it can't succeed. If it had 'worked' there would have been no need for debate.
Forum: General Discussion 16-07-2014, 07:38
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Posted By Bus Stop2012
The court will find that Burger/Johnson were...

The court will find that Burger/Johnson were hearing the screams/shouts that occurred after the gunshots.
Burger in particular was the one who caused problems for the prosecution, with her...
Forum: General Discussion 16-07-2014, 07:19
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Posted By Bus Stop2012
If the shots came before the phone calls, the...

If the shots came before the phone calls, the witnesses mistook a man for a woman.
The court will find that the shots came before the phone calls. If it doesn't it will be roundly criticised by any...
Forum: General Discussion 16-07-2014, 06:56
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Posted By Bus Stop2012
The defence hasn't hung its hat on the 3:17 time;...

The defence hasn't hung its hat on the 3:17 time; its Nel who has.
I agree that the shots probably occurred somewhere between 3:13 - 3:15.
The problem this gives Nel is that his witnesses say they...
Forum: General Discussion 15-07-2014, 22:01
Replies: 118
Views: 6,034
Posted By Bus Stop2012
I hope its a girl and they call it Mildred.

I hope its a girl and they call it Mildred.
Forum: General Discussion 15-07-2014, 21:50
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Posted By Bus Stop2012
Mr Roux was nothing at all to do with my post. ...

Mr Roux was nothing at all to do with my post. What did Nel say?
Forum: General Discussion 15-07-2014, 21:01
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Posted By Bus Stop2012
You'll cope :)

You'll cope :)
Forum: General Discussion 15-07-2014, 20:34
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Posted By Bus Stop2012
I congratulate you, Moniker. Thats arguably your...

I congratulate you, Moniker. Thats arguably your best post in this thread.

ETA. In case that sounded patronising I should also add that its one of the best posts in the thread.
Forum: General Discussion 15-07-2014, 20:26
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Views: 144,049
Posted By Bus Stop2012
You're speculating madly. The court isn't allowed...

You're speculating madly. The court isn't allowed to speculate.
If Johnson says he woke and was alarmed by the sounds he was hearing, and Burger said to him, 'don't just stand there - heres the cell...
Forum: General Discussion 15-07-2014, 20:04
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Posted By Bus Stop2012
Don't understand this post, Moniker. I...

Don't understand this post, Moniker. I especially don't understand the last line.
Forum: General Discussion 15-07-2014, 19:52
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Posted By Bus Stop2012
All this 'well, I'll shift the time' and 'it kind...

All this 'well, I'll shift the time' and 'it kind of fits' won't persuade the court.
Forum: General Discussion 15-07-2014, 19:12
Replies: 4,262
Views: 144,049
Posted By Bus Stop2012
I agree, its not his job to solve cases, and yes...

I agree, its not his job to solve cases, and yes its his job to present the state's case in court. But he's also paid to bring his professional and learned judgement to bear in his assessment of the...
Forum: General Discussion 15-07-2014, 18:43
Replies: 4,262
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Posted By Bus Stop2012
If Mr Nel didn't have all the prosecution's...

If Mr Nel didn't have all the prosecution's evidence, who had it????
Forum: General Discussion 15-07-2014, 18:41
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Posted By Bus Stop2012
I agree.

I agree.
Forum: General Discussion 15-07-2014, 18:30
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Posted By Bus Stop2012
Your post was fine :) I'm getting the expected...

Your post was fine :)
I'm getting the expected and unimportant derision from all quarters (not you, for which I thank you) for alluding to Mr Nel's declaration to the court that the gunshots that...
Forum: General Discussion 15-07-2014, 08:03
Replies: 4,262
Views: 144,049
Posted By Bus Stop2012
I understand what you're saying but it would be...

I understand what you're saying but it would be wholly unfair to the defence if they had carried out their cross examination of witnesses etc on the basis off the prosecution's case of 3:17 shots and...
Forum: General Discussion 15-07-2014, 06:58
Replies: 4,262
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Posted By Bus Stop2012
Hi addie. Not sure I agree. The prosecution...

Hi addie.
Not sure I agree. The prosecution 'goes first' so that the defence knows the case it has to meet. Obviously that means that the prosecution can't build its case right at the very end,...
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