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Forum: General Discussion 22-05-2015, 16:53
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Posted By johnF1971
Sorry for your loss and thanks for sharing that.

Sorry for your loss and thanks for sharing that.
Forum: General Discussion 22-05-2015, 16:42
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Posted By johnF1971
If you decide to have a career as a criminal...

If you decide to have a career as a criminal defence lawyer then yes I agree, you should expect that you may be called upon to defend criminals including murderers and if you're not comfortable with...
Forum: General Discussion 22-05-2015, 16:13
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Posted By johnF1971
The fact is that only someone who has both a pet...

The fact is that only someone who has both a pet and a child is qualified to compare how losing either of them would feel.

And I could virtually guarantee that anyone who has both would agree that...
Forum: General Discussion 22-05-2015, 11:55
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Posted By johnF1971
I would agree it is important not to suppress...

I would agree it is important not to suppress such groups. I don't see how you can argue that the bakers were attempting to "suppress" anyone though. They just had a different view and their...
Forum: General Discussion 22-05-2015, 11:37
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Posted By johnF1971
Yes the courts found on the basis of sexual...

Yes the courts found on the basis of sexual orientation as you keep saying but that doesn't mean the courts were correct.

Courts, judges and lawyers aside, it would seem quite obvious to anyone with...
Forum: General Discussion 22-05-2015, 11:23
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Posted By johnF1971
OK, I don't really want to get bogged down in...

OK, I don't really want to get bogged down in legal technicalities.

Surely though if NI doesn't RECOGNISE same sex marriage in the same way that it RECOGNISES mixed sex marriages then that is...
Forum: General Discussion 22-05-2015, 10:52
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Posted By johnF1971
Whether the cake was for a private function or...

Whether the cake was for a private function or public protest isn't the point.

Do you not find it hypocrytical and strange that the NI legal system is able to prosecute a baker on the gounds of...
Forum: General Discussion 22-05-2015, 10:33
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Posted By johnF1971
Yes exactly! I made a similar point myself on...

Yes exactly! I made a similar point myself on this thread but I think it went pretty much ignored. The whole case is bizzarre.

If in England, where gay marriage is now thankfully allowed, a gay...
Forum: General Discussion 21-05-2015, 16:11
Replies: 1,808
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Posted By johnF1971
Presumably that was your choice though? If you...

Presumably that was your choice though? If you had really strong views against say fracking do you think you should be obliged by law to be a copywriter for a fracking company who requested your...
Forum: General Discussion 21-05-2015, 14:52
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Posted By johnF1971
You do realise that the law in Northern Ireland,...

You do realise that the law in Northern Ireland, which you seem to hold in such high esteem, does not currently allow gay couples to get married?

Isn't that the bigger injustice rather than a baker...
Forum: General Discussion 21-05-2015, 14:21
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Posted By johnF1971
Does anyone else see a huge irony in this...

Does anyone else see a huge irony in this case?

Gay marriage is not yet legal in Northern Ireland as far as I understand. So presumbaly the official view of the constitution, government and law of...
Forum: General Discussion 21-05-2015, 12:18
Replies: 82
Views: 3,237
Posted By johnF1971
I'd assume there was a big difference. Men's...

I'd assume there was a big difference.

Men's faeces would be revolting while presumably a lady's would taste of sugar and spice and all things nice...? :p
Forum: General Discussion 21-05-2015, 12:05
Replies: 54
Views: 1,996
Posted By johnF1971
Can someone explain what the protest is actually...

Can someone explain what the protest is actually about?
Forum: Chatter 21-05-2015, 11:55
Replies: 77
Views: 2,229
Posted By johnF1971
Why do straight men "claim" they dont w**k?

Coz they're on the dole? :confused:
Forum: General Discussion 21-05-2015, 10:39
Replies: 121
Views: 4,512
Posted By johnF1971
This sums up what I tend to think of as a chav....

This sums up what I tend to think of as a chav. Just being working class, wearing a tracksuit or spray tan, being a single mum, watching X factor, shopping at Aldi or living in a council house...
Forum: General Discussion 20-05-2015, 13:13
Replies: 1,808
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Posted By johnF1971
My understanding is this that the bakery would...

My understanding is this that the bakery would have refused to supply a support gay marriage cake to any customer or group whether they were gay, straight, black, white, Christian or Muslim. Do you...
Forum: General Discussion 20-05-2015, 13:09
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Posted By johnF1971
You're right. I had not read the judgment. I've...

You're right. I had not read the judgment. I've now briefly skimmed. Can someone please clarify for me. If a straight customer with no connections to the gay community orders a support gay marriage...
Forum: General Discussion 20-05-2015, 12:44
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Posted By johnF1971
I think an important point needs to be...

I think an important point needs to be understood. The bakery did NOT refuse to bake a cake for a customer because the customer was gay. They refused to bake a cake which displayed a political...
Forum: General Discussion 15-05-2015, 17:22
Replies: 670
Views: 15,118
Posted By johnF1971
Do you have children?

Do you have children?
Forum: General Discussion 15-05-2015, 17:15
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Posted By johnF1971
I'm happy to be proved wrong, but I'm guessing...

I'm happy to be proved wrong, but I'm guessing that those who say they would save a pet over a random child probably don't have kids of their own?
Forum: General Discussion 15-05-2015, 15:58
Replies: 786
Views: 25,184
Posted By johnF1971
I'm also a little confused by sex and...

I'm also a little confused by sex and gender.

Those in the know have said that a person's sex is related to their chromosomes and doesn't change even though they may have a "sex change" operation...
Forum: General Discussion 15-05-2015, 13:43
Replies: 670
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Posted By johnF1971
Agree that humans shouldn't hunt for fun, but are...

Agree that humans shouldn't hunt for fun, but are you also saying that people who hunt and fish for food deserve to be killed?

:o A bit extreme isn't it?

Does that also extend to anyone who isn't...
Forum: General Discussion 15-05-2015, 12:14
Replies: 786
Views: 25,184
Posted By johnF1971
Thanks for this informative post. I think it was...

Thanks for this informative post. I think it was me who made the "muitilate a healthy body comment", but hopefully it didn't cause any offence.

I agree that it is difficult for most of us to...
Forum: General Discussion 15-05-2015, 11:49
Replies: 670
Views: 15,118
Posted By johnF1971
Yeah, if you ever come across a 5 year old...

Yeah, if you ever come across a 5 year old drowning in a pond and crying for help best to just let them die. Otherwise if you try and save them they'll only end up thinking they're a precious little...
Forum: General Discussion 15-05-2015, 11:30
Replies: 69
Views: 1,839
Posted By johnF1971
Alternatively they might be poor working class...

Alternatively they might be poor working class parents who can't afford private education or tutoring because their money is better spent on food, rent and heating and they just want a decent...
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