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Forum: General Discussion 14-12-2014, 00:05
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Posted By allafix
Ah, so you know he is guilty? How? Why wasn't...

Ah, so you know he is guilty? How?


Why wasn't all this tested?


Oh, that's why. All circumstantial background stuff about Dewani which has no bearing on the case, but of course raises the...
Forum: General Discussion 13-12-2014, 23:56
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Posted By allafix
So because a car is unlicenced as a taxi it's...

So because a car is unlicenced as a taxi it's more likely to have a driver with criminal connections? He drove a car for private hire. Just because he's not licenced to pick up fares off the street...
Forum: General Discussion 13-12-2014, 20:45
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Posted By allafix
You haven't as such, but you have certainly...

You haven't as such, but you have certainly discounted it for some reason.


Where is the support for the idea that the Dewani family would act that way? I've only seen coincidence and surmise being...
Forum: General Discussion 13-12-2014, 02:36
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Posted By allafix
It's extremely hard to fake. You have to convince...

It's extremely hard to fake. You have to convince too many people. That makes it highly unlikely in my view. Sure it's possible, but very unlikely. And anyway the extradition went ahead. Dewani...
Forum: General Discussion 11-12-2014, 21:41
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Posted By allafix
No, I'm not holding my breath. They have the...

No, I'm not holding my breath. They have the right not to silence, just like Dewani. ;-)

I'll have to take your word for the other part.
Forum: General Discussion 11-12-2014, 21:35
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Posted By allafix
Oddly, the trial judge didn't agree with your...

Oddly, the trial judge didn't agree with your view. I wonder what she missed that you noticed.
Forum: General Discussion 11-12-2014, 20:43
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Posted By allafix
You have my sympathy. I've only had a few hours...

You have my sympathy. I've only had a few hours of it. :(
Forum: General Discussion 11-12-2014, 20:42
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Posted By allafix
Getting sectioned really isn't that easy. He...

Getting sectioned really isn't that easy. He couldn't be extradited in that condition, but when he recovered sufficiently he was. How did a fake breakdown (if that was what it was) help him?

You and...
Forum: General Discussion 11-12-2014, 20:27
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Posted By allafix
How very convenient for you. You've asked me...

How very convenient for you. You've asked me questions and I've answered them. Why doesn't this work both ways?

I didn't instruct you to do anything. I asked you why you found Tongo so convincing,...
Forum: General Discussion 11-12-2014, 20:14
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Posted By allafix
It's a fundamental common law right. An important...

It's a fundamental common law right. An important safeguard protecting against citizens against arbitrary actions of the state. Confessions are notoriously unreliable evidence. The accused in a trial...
Forum: General Discussion 11-12-2014, 20:00
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Posted By allafix
How can you possibly do that? So much irrational...

How can you possibly do that? So much irrational denial in this thread. Being sectioned requires the agreement of two doctors and a social worker. That's not something which is easily faked, and...
Forum: General Discussion 11-12-2014, 19:55
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Posted By allafix
I'll keep my reply even briefer. Just referring...

I'll keep my reply even briefer. Just referring to the bits you put in bold.

I'm well aware of the Hijra problems, but they also perform a valuable role in Indian society. Yes it's a contradiction,...
Forum: General Discussion 11-12-2014, 19:42
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Posted By allafix
Dewani had a breakdown. He was sectioned. That...

Dewani had a breakdown. He was sectioned. That doesn't mean he has a psychiatric disorder now. People can recover from such things. (I have experience of this with a very close relative which I won't...
Forum: General Discussion 11-12-2014, 19:37
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Posted By allafix
Your intuition must be a hoot too. I didn't say...

Your intuition must be a hoot too.

I didn't say there was any requirement for consensus, but this thread is people with diametrically opposed opinions trying to convince each other. I've seen less...
Forum: General Discussion 11-12-2014, 14:49
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Posted By allafix
The RSA prosecution couldn't prove it with the...

The RSA prosecution couldn't prove it with the evidence, how can intuition prove it here?


I asked Agent B first. I'd like an answer.

However for my part the fact that Tongo lied and contradicted...
Forum: General Discussion 11-12-2014, 14:40
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Posted By allafix
Answered above. Is that the argument you are...

Answered above. Is that the argument you are relying on?
Forum: General Discussion 11-12-2014, 14:39
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Posted By allafix
You can be a wealthy Indian businessman and still...

You can be a wealthy Indian businessman and still low caste. Caste is not the same as class.

Dewani's sexuality is not really an issue. This is Hinduism we are talking about, not Islam. Homophobia...
Forum: General Discussion 11-12-2014, 13:32
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Posted By allafix
I'm truly grateful. No, I didn't miss that. But...

I'm truly grateful.

No, I didn't miss that. But crucial parts of what he says are not corroborated by the other evidence (phone records, CCTV). He had good reason to implicate Dewani. I asked you...
Forum: General Discussion 11-12-2014, 13:28
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Posted By allafix
Intuition isn't a dirty word. However your...

Intuition isn't a dirty word. However your intuition cannot be proved, it's simply your belief, based on the information you accept to be true. Intuition is bound to bias your view of the evidence....
Forum: General Discussion 11-12-2014, 13:06
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Views: 343,865
Posted By allafix
Far better, and more in keeping with DS rules, to...

Far better, and more in keeping with DS rules, to link to a source rather than quote verbatim. His testimony is still something you either believe or disbelieve. The court disbelieved it.
Forum: General Discussion 11-12-2014, 13:01
Replies: 9,778
Views: 343,865
Posted By allafix
With respect it really would have been better to...

With respect it really would have been better to link to the Mirror's trial reports, rather than assemble them here.

Tongo's evidence is not much use without the other evidence that undermined his...
Forum: General Discussion 11-12-2014, 12:49
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Posted By allafix
What makes you think the families were so...

What makes you think the families were so traditional that murder was preferable to divorce? That kind of thing might happen in remote villages where the wife is seen as the property of the husband's...
Forum: General Discussion 11-12-2014, 12:40
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Posted By allafix
Unfortunately all that verbage adds nothing. Why...

Unfortunately all that verbage adds nothing.

Why is Tongo so believable for you, Agent B?
Forum: General Discussion 11-12-2014, 09:33
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Posted By allafix
Where did I say I thought he was innocent?...

Where did I say I thought he was innocent?

Agent b may well know what inadmissible evidence is but they clearly implied that motive was evidence that wasn't admissible. It isn't even...
Forum: General Discussion 11-12-2014, 08:49
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Posted By allafix
Intuition has no part in a trial process, which...

Intuition has no part in a trial process, which proceeds on matters of fact. Motive is not evidence of murder either. Nothing to do with it being inadmissible. It just isn't evidence.

If you...
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