People like you call any talk about the victims of these killers "emotive drivel" (above)...it's not difficult to see where your sympathies lie.
We are more "civilised" are we ? I'm talking about what is "just" and "appropriate" punishment for a crime. I don't believe our lenient treatment of young offenders makes us any more civilised, our sentences are generally disproportionate in the other direction that's all.
You could argue that by putting a greater value on human life, and severely punishing offenders who commit the ultimate crime by taking a life, is more civilised ?
No I do not call any talk of these killers "emotive drivel".
We are more civilised.
Our sentencing is about right.
We value human life.
We are not lenient over here. Sure you can find sentences that are too light as I can find them that are too heavy, but on the whole we are about right.
No one is saying criminals should not be punished.
170 years is ridiculous though.