Where did I say anything about narcissism and vanity?
People are demonising women on the thread, not neccessarily you, although you did say "
We have seen many women utterly screw up their children and fail at being a parent"
I said it isn't putting the baby first, allowing anyone who can afford one to get one, needing no emotional involvement whatsoever, just cash. It's my opinion. No need to agree if you don't want to.
You said children should be put first, so the idea of gay men having their own kids means they are putting their needs above anyone else's. So they have children purely for egotistical reasons?
I am not demonising women, I'm just saying that a child can have a mother in its life and be utterly screwed up. Women do not always make the best parents.
How can we judge those simply because they went through a non traditional way of having a child? How can you say they don't have emotional investment?