Non Muslim women are seen as easy meat...the behaviour is no surprise to me as disgusting as it is. IMO it was and is a time bomb when will we say enough....when homosexuals are attacked chucked of roofs?....this is a cultural belief that is ingrained in them generation to generation we are worthless ....beneath them as much as I think most need genuine help you can not mix oil and water... we should not have to temper our way of being we should not be afraid to go out to travel..to live for fear of upsetting new comers when in Rome as they say ..I know if I went to Middle East I would have to abide by there ways why us it any difrent for them?....they come with a sense IMO again of believing they will be rich live in a big houses be given all and anything never haveto pay their way....again IMO they will all get very angry and upset when they realise the streets are not paved in gold and life is expensive and hard
It shouldn't be left to Pegida to frame this issue as anti-Islam. This is a women's rights issue and every German citizen should be protesting at how those women were treated by police and the conspiracy to cover up.
Public order is central to Europe's culture and identity. Women are equal in the eyes of the law and do not invite rape/sexual assault by being outdoors.
I'm gobsmacked to see so many women here and on other forums ignore the fact that those women in Germany were sexually targetted. People here are so ignorant about the fact that those awful crimes could be seen as racial.
Imagine 1000 British or any other European nationals attacking Muslim women in their home countries. They would be stoned to death by everybody.
Racism works both ways.
I am sickened by the fact that some people cannot see that this is mass sex/ hate crime and that there are some, including those in authority, who would like it to be swept under the carpet, supposedly for the sake of that mask called "community cohesion".
For most of my adult life I wished I'd been born 30 years later to see the results of the social change many of us battled for - for "ordinary" people, women and gay people. Now I wish I'd been born 30 years earlier.
We marched for freedoms and against apartheid as students. Now I see British unis allowing hate preachers to spread anti female / anti gay/ anti Western values poison to segregated audiences.
What's going on now makes me want to , I feel so let down by those in power who should be at the forefront of defending liberty and social justice but instead are following a disgusting agenda of appeasement.
I cant believe you wrote that. People seem desperate to absolve these crimes. Your post slaps every one of those victims in the face. You should be ashamed.
What are you talking about? Please don't you or anyone else insult me with your fantasy, that I wish to absolve anyone of these crimes. Show me where I've even suggested any such thing! Have you seen the posts following your false and disgraceful accusations, all believing you? You should be thoroughly ashamed and retract what you said with an apology.
How on earth can one of the guestimated numbers of men involved mean that they all sexually attacked women? It's a nonsense.. My only point which I stand by, no matter how you or anyone else chooses to spin it to suit.
I don't know how much you've read about that night's events. Do you understand that the reason some of them were hideously sexually attacking the women was to cause a distraction for other's pickpocketing? Seemingly not.
To do anything else would be tantamount to admitting that she was wrong. It's a rare politician that does that.
You know only too well what I think and no she and the rest of the indolent EU buffoons who wanted it all, will ever admit to this or any other thoroughly disgusting actions they're guilty of.
This story will come and go in the UK. Look how much defending there was of the Rotheram case even here.
British people just lie down and let things happen these days. There's no fight anymore. The next 20 years are going to see big changes to the country that nobody could ever imagine.
. Do you understand that the reason some of them were hideously sexually attacking the women was to cause a distraction for other's pickpocketing? Seemingly not.
Are you nuts?
"Well I only murdered the person so that I could rob them, so judge me as a robber!"
What are you talking about? Please don't you or anyone else insult me with your fantasy, that I wish to absolve anyone of these crimes. Show me where I've even suggested any such thing! Have you seen the posts following your false and disgraceful accusations, all believing you? You should be thoroughly ashamed and retract what you said with an apology.
How on earth can one of the guestimated numbers of men involved mean that they all sexually attacked women? It's a nonsense.. My only point which I stand by, no matter how you or anyone else chooses to spin it to suit.
I don't know how much you've read about that night's events. Do you understand that the reason some of them were hideously sexually attacking the women was to cause a distraction for other's pickpocketing? Seemingly not.
I don't know how much you've read about that night's events. Do you understand that the reason some of them were hideously sexually attacking the women was to cause a distraction for other's pickpocketing? Seemingly not.
What difference does that really make? One of them ripped at a woman's clothing, groped her tits and squeezed her arse but it was only to distract her so that another could steal her handbag, so they aren't sell bad.
Some of the apologist rhetoric is really quite staggering.
What difference does that really make? One of them ripped at a woman's clothing, groped her tits and squeezed her arse but it was only to distract her so that another could steal her handbag, so they aren't sell bad.
Some of the apologist rhetoric is really quite staggering.
Well don't you understand the reason? Surely that reason must change everything :o:o:o:o:o>:(
What are you talking about? Please don't you or anyone else insult me with your fantasy, that I wish to absolve anyone of these crimes. Show me where I've even suggested any such thing! Have you seen the posts following your false and disgraceful accusations, all believing you? You should be thoroughly ashamed and retract what you said with an apology.
How on earth can one of the guestimated numbers of men involved mean that they all sexually attacked women? It's a nonsense.. My only point which I stand by, no matter how you or anyone else chooses to spin it to suit.
I don't know how much you've read about that night's events. Do you understand that the reason some of them were hideously sexually attacking the women was to cause a distraction for other's pickpocketing? Seemingly not.
Silly girls to believe that they had been targetted for sexual assaullt!
But you can see why they made the mistake. After all, thiieves have ways of distracting their victims, removing their valuables, and leaving the victim unaware of what has happened. Not so with these guys - they made themselves known in the most brutal and degrading way, publically. The mobile phones were only a trophy of a fun night out.
This was a mass attack by sexual predators.
The biggest frustration of this disgusting development is that it really shouldn't be a surprise to anyone apart from the head in the sand, I'm so more virtuous than you merchants.
Just look at the rape and sexual assault figures for Stockholm and Malmo which has 'benefitted' from a huge influx of Muslim immigrants. The women there certainly don't appear to be seeing any benefits.
I don't know how much you've read about that night's events. Do you understand that the reason some of them were hideously sexually attacking the women was to cause a distraction for other's pickpocketing? Seemingly not.
I really don't like this theory. If they where there to pickpocket, then why not just pickpocket. The way these women where groped and touched, with such force and aggression, they could have just robbed them.
I mean, you're gunna fight harder when your body is under threat than you would if your belongings where. Surely it would be easier to just rob someone than sexually assault them first.
It was totally sexually motivated. It wouldn't be used an as an excuse if a couple of blokes broke into a house, one raped the home owner whilst the other robbed the house, and it was claimed she was only raped to distract her whilst they robbed her.
How are these immigrants funding their travel into the city centre, party alcohol, fireworks and smart phones to be able to access Facebook to arrange these groping flash mobs.
I thought they were brave yet impoverished souls fleeing for their lives and just wanting to be given a chance to make an honourable living for themselves?
Silly girls to believe that they had been targetted for sexual assaullt!
But you can see why they made the mistake. After all, thiieves have ways of distracting their victims, removing their valuables, and leaving the victim unaware of what has happened. Not so with these guys - they made themselves known in the most brutal and degrading way, publically. The mobile phones were only a trophy of a fun night out.
This was a mass attack by sexual predators.
Of course they were targeted for sexual assault! Some of them were also robbed at the same time and some of them were robbed and not sexually assaulted. Many of the complaints to the police were for robbery. What is your point, apart from having a pointless dig at me?
I really don't like this theory. If they where there to pickpocket, then why not just pickpocket. The way these women where groped and touched, with such force and aggression, they could have just robbed them.
I mean, you're gunna fight harder when your body is under threat than you would if your belongings where. Surely it would be easier to just rob someone than sexually assault them first.
It was totally sexually motivated. It wouldn't be used an as an excuse if a couple of blokes broke into a house, one raped the home owner whilst the other robbed the house, and it was claimed she was only raped to distract her whilst they robbed her.
Because obviously some of them weren't only there to pickpocket?
Fact is Merkel has facillated the importing of rape culture into Europe in plague like numbers, there's no escaping or denying that fact any longer. These savages (I refuse to call them men, they're not men), will not help the European economy in the way that Merkel hoped. Both in France and Germany employers have clearly stated that these savages have neither the necessary skills nor the inclination to work. All they represent is a drain on resources, the economy, housing, a waste of emergency services time and resources and all they bring is violence, misogyny, intolerance and civil unrest.
Of course they were targeted for sexual assault! Some of them were also robbed at the same time and some of them were robbed and not sexually assaulted. Many of the complaints to the police were for robbery. What is your point, apart from having a pointless dig at me?
' I don't know how much you've read about that night's events. Do you understand that the reason some of them were hideously sexually attacking the women was to cause a distraction for other's pickpocketing? '
Quoted from your own post. You think that sexual assault was a distraction; I think it was the whole point. The victim in the video above had nothing stolen. The men were predators pure and simple.
I don't know how much you've read about that night's events. Do you understand that the reason some of them were hideously sexually attacking the women was to cause a distraction for other's pickpocketing? Seemingly not.
Of course they were targeted for sexual assault! Some of them were also robbed at the same time and some of them were robbed and not sexually assaulted. Many of the complaints to the police were for robbery. What is your point, apart from having a pointless dig at me?
Because obviously some of them weren't only there to pickpocket?
Well, obviously.
My point was in reference to this:
"Do you understand that the reason some of them were hideously sexually attacking the women was to cause a distraction for other's pickpocketing?"
That the sexual assault was only a tool to help them to pickpocket. To simply distract the victims. That the whole reason for the sexual assault was pickpocketting.
And how I believe that view is absolute crap.
I must admit, I didn't expect this reaction from Arabs
Arab social media fury at Cologne sex attacks People on Arabic-language social media have voiced dismay and anger at the sexual violence against women in Cologne and other German cities on New Year's Eve.
Indications that many of the attackers were North African or Arab in appearance prompt soul-searching, with some alluding to the perception that sexual violence against women is widespread in North Africa and the Middle East. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35251167
What are you talking about? Please don't you or anyone else insult me with your fantasy, that I wish to absolve anyone of these crimes. Show me where I've even suggested any such thing! Have you seen the posts following your false and disgraceful accusations, all believing you? You should be thoroughly ashamed and retract what you said with an apology.
How on earth can one of the guestimated numbers of men involved mean that they all sexually attacked women? It's a nonsense.. My only point which I stand by, no matter how you or anyone else chooses to spin it to suit.
I don't know how much you've read about that night's events. Do you understand that the reason some of them were hideously sexually attacking the women was to cause a distraction for other's pickpocketing? Seemingly not.
Seriously? Well that makes it okay then. I'm sure the women will come to terms with some strangers hand in their knickers much more easily knowing it was only done as a distraction to steal their mobile phone.
You know what really worries me? Where were the German men in all this? There must have been plenty of them around. Why didn't they do anything about it? (apart from one or two)
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I am sickened by the fact that some people cannot see that this is mass sex/ hate crime and that there are some, including those in authority, who would like it to be swept under the carpet, supposedly for the sake of that mask called "community cohesion".
For most of my adult life I wished I'd been born 30 years later to see the results of the social change many of us battled for - for "ordinary" people, women and gay people. Now I wish I'd been born 30 years earlier.
We marched for freedoms and against apartheid as students. Now I see British unis allowing hate preachers to spread anti female / anti gay/ anti Western values poison to segregated audiences.
What's going on now makes me want to
What are you talking about? Please don't you or anyone else insult me with your fantasy, that I wish to absolve anyone of these crimes. Show me where I've even suggested any such thing! Have you seen the posts following your false and disgraceful accusations, all believing you? You should be thoroughly ashamed and retract what you said with an apology.
How on earth can one of the guestimated numbers of men involved mean that they all sexually attacked women? It's a nonsense.. My only point which I stand by, no matter how you or anyone else chooses to spin it to suit.
I don't know how much you've read about that night's events. Do you understand that the reason some of them were hideously sexually attacking the women was to cause a distraction for other's pickpocketing? Seemingly not.
You know only too well what I think and no she and the rest of the indolent EU buffoons who wanted it all, will ever admit to this or any other thoroughly disgusting actions they're guilty of.
British people just lie down and let things happen these days. There's no fight anymore. The next 20 years are going to see big changes to the country that nobody could ever imagine.
Are you nuts?
"Well I only murdered the person so that I could rob them, so judge me as a robber!"
Maggie
Do you REALLY believe that nonsense?
What difference does that really make? One of them ripped at a woman's clothing, groped her tits and squeezed her arse but it was only to distract her so that another could steal her handbag, so they aren't sell bad.
Some of the apologist rhetoric is really quite staggering.
http://vladtepesblog.com/2016/01/07/they-called-us-bitches-and-****-another-first-person-account-of-the-rape-attacks-in-germany/
Well don't you understand the reason? Surely that reason must change everything
Silly girls to believe that they had been targetted for sexual assaullt!
But you can see why they made the mistake. After all, thiieves have ways of distracting their victims, removing their valuables, and leaving the victim unaware of what has happened. Not so with these guys - they made themselves known in the most brutal and degrading way, publically. The mobile phones were only a trophy of a fun night out.
This was a mass attack by sexual predators.
Just look at the rape and sexual assault figures for Stockholm and Malmo which has 'benefitted' from a huge influx of Muslim immigrants. The women there certainly don't appear to be seeing any benefits.
I really don't like this theory. If they where there to pickpocket, then why not just pickpocket. The way these women where groped and touched, with such force and aggression, they could have just robbed them.
I mean, you're gunna fight harder when your body is under threat than you would if your belongings where. Surely it would be easier to just rob someone than sexually assault them first.
It was totally sexually motivated. It wouldn't be used an as an excuse if a couple of blokes broke into a house, one raped the home owner whilst the other robbed the house, and it was claimed she was only raped to distract her whilst they robbed her.
I thought they were brave yet impoverished souls fleeing for their lives and just wanting to be given a chance to make an honourable living for themselves?
Of course they were targeted for sexual assault! Some of them were also robbed at the same time and some of them were robbed and not sexually assaulted. Many of the complaints to the police were for robbery. What is your point, apart from having a pointless dig at me?
Are you people who are constantly quoting the mail talking about the on line version or the Daily newspaper.
There is a considerable difference.
Because obviously some of them weren't only there to pickpocket?
The online site, I've got nothing against it myself but the lefties don't like it.
' I don't know how much you've read about that night's events. Do you understand that the reason some of them were hideously sexually attacking the women was to cause a distraction for other's pickpocketing? '
Quoted from your own post. You think that sexual assault was a distraction; I think it was the whole point. The victim in the video above had nothing stolen. The men were predators pure and simple.
I'm confused
Well, obviously.
My point was in reference to this:
"Do you understand that the reason some of them were hideously sexually attacking the women was to cause a distraction for other's pickpocketing?"
That the sexual assault was only a tool to help them to pickpocket. To simply distract the victims. That the whole reason for the sexual assault was pickpocketting.
And how I believe that view is absolute crap.
Arab social media fury at Cologne sex attacks
People on Arabic-language social media have voiced dismay and anger at the sexual violence against women in Cologne and other German cities on New Year's Eve.
Indications that many of the attackers were North African or Arab in appearance prompt soul-searching, with some alluding to the perception that sexual violence against women is widespread in North Africa and the Middle East.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35251167
Seriously? Well that makes it okay then. I'm sure the women will come to terms with some strangers hand in their knickers much more easily knowing it was only done as a distraction to steal their mobile phone.