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My thoughts on Corbyn as a Corbyn supporter
A few thoughts on his reign so far and views on which I differ from him:
Disunity: There is infighting currently going on in the Labour party. This has been almost exclusively caused by Blairites like Danczuk and Leslie causing trouble and spreading lies. They need to have these disagreements in private for the sake of the party.
Defence: I don't agree with the renewal of Trident, however it's not top priority for me as they will never be used. Reducing the number of warheads may be the best Corbyn can hope for as a small step, and that may be best for the party.
Dan Jarvis: Corbyn should have put Jarvis in the shadow cabinet.
Immigration: Tories and Labour have failed to get a grip on the immigration debate and have no clear policy. Immigration is good for this country and good for the economy, but there are concerns and these need to be addressed even if he thinks the concerns are wrong. The public know that we need immigration but want it to be more focused in our interests. I think there is only one policy which can achieve this, and that is a points system similar to Australia for non EU citizens. The public will accept this as a workable solution and would give Labour the upper hand. I don't agree with Corbyn's current stance on immigration.
Disunity: There is infighting currently going on in the Labour party. This has been almost exclusively caused by Blairites like Danczuk and Leslie causing trouble and spreading lies. They need to have these disagreements in private for the sake of the party.
Defence: I don't agree with the renewal of Trident, however it's not top priority for me as they will never be used. Reducing the number of warheads may be the best Corbyn can hope for as a small step, and that may be best for the party.
Dan Jarvis: Corbyn should have put Jarvis in the shadow cabinet.
Immigration: Tories and Labour have failed to get a grip on the immigration debate and have no clear policy. Immigration is good for this country and good for the economy, but there are concerns and these need to be addressed even if he thinks the concerns are wrong. The public know that we need immigration but want it to be more focused in our interests. I think there is only one policy which can achieve this, and that is a points system similar to Australia for non EU citizens. The public will accept this as a workable solution and would give Labour the upper hand. I don't agree with Corbyn's current stance on immigration.
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What does he reign over? He isn't even running the laboured party.
Trident is a non issue. Most people (Voters) don't really care as long as there are police on the streets and not insane Muslims trying to blow up schools and railway stations. Morality goes out of the window on this issue. JC has managed to make such a blunder of his PR regarding defense that he considered a soft touch...and weak.
Jarvis, In my view is not the messiah, he's a very....overrated politician ;-) and needs to prove himself against the Tories on strategy, flair and charisma.
Immigration is a difficult one as it's a regional problem up and down the country and in Labour heartlands. I suspect that it's the social conservatism of certain Muslims communities that is grinding down at the tolerance of many folk especially when they hear about leering men speaking Arabic and women dressed head to toe in a burka disengaged in British life. It's always down to Britishness and integration. Ordinary people in 2016 have no problem with skin colour, ethnicity but they will notice failures of integration.
When Corbyn became leader he said that Scotland was a priority and he would be going up there every moth to bolster Labour's chances at the next Scottish elections which are in May this year. I can only find a record of his going once.
He has surrounded himself with left wingers and has put them in powerful positions. Livingstone is leading the "review" into defence and he and Thornberry will not recommend renewing Trident. This would impact severely in Scotland and certainly wont encourage a revival Labour's fortunes there.
McDonnell is pitiful as shadow Chancellor. No doubt he will recommend re-nationalising the railways to please Corbyn.
I can only wonder what will be Labour's policies as they go into the local and Scottish May elections.
I can't see Benn sitting on his hands with his mouth shut for the next five years.
Not true - Momentum and other far left groups have been hounding more moderate Labour MPs with threats, both personal and deselection ones.
If Corbyn wants to succeed then he will have to put a stop to this harassment and be inclusive when it comes to selection of shadow cabinet members and spokespeople.
He is holding the reins of the 3-legged mule, leading and pulling the cart full of rubbish fit for the tip.:D
Momentum's policy is not to campaign for deselection on the grounds that it's up to Labour who stands (Momentum are not a part of the Labour party). They have also condemned bullying. Corbyn's shadow cabinet is more inclusive than Blair's ever was.
I can't bear his cap, his scruffy look, his old men's shoes, his shifty look, the way he speaks and I think he's a good match for his old lover Diane whatshername. Likes attracted
I agree with your analysis and offer of solutions.
That final paragraph is totally reflective of UKIP's immigration policy.
Perhaps you could lead the way towards a Labour/UKIP pact with Jeremy Corbyn and Nigel Farage a dual leaders. The next election would be cut and dry !
With judgements, assumptions and prejudices like that, are you sure you're a supporter of the Labour Party?
This is typical of Corbyn supporters - divorced from reality which will be as real as a punch in the face when Labour is slaughtered at the next election.
Dan Jarvis would not serve in a Corbyn cabinet because he fundamentally disagrees with his defence policy.
Except for the token working class, chip-on-the-shoulder, Northern accented John Prescott.
Don't forget him because he was the man the public relations experts and spin doctors put in place to appease the traditional Labour voters. Sadly, they didn't have the nous to realise and Blair was allowed to create a Tory Light Party and promote his narcissism and his displays of sociopathic tendencies.
Tony Blair appears to have all of the following traits:
lack of remorse and empathy
a sense of grandiosity
superficial charm
conning and manipulative behaviour
refusal to take responsibility for one’s actions,
Source: https://cyberboris.wordpress.com/2014/09/25/certain-politicians-are-psychopaths-say-psychologists-is-boris-right-about-blair/
Was! ;-)
So way did I support him? Because the New Labour leadership had simply become completely divorced from it's membership and core supporters. The gap between the views of Blairites and supports had become so wide that the party faced a very real risk of rupture in the near future. There's no point bringing out arguments about swing voters and the ambitions of 'Middle England', if your activist dwindle away and core supporters stay at home you can't win anything. Scotland was just a precursor of what could happen.
There should have been a moderate candidate between the Blairites at one end and Cobyn at the other. Someone respected in the party with the ability bring the different sides together over a compromise that would have probably looked very similar to the manifestos of the other UK Social Democratic parties - the SNP and Plaid Cymru. But the New Labour ideological purge has left the party completely barren in that area. I suppose it's possible that all the progressive activities that should have joined Labour during the period found themselves with the Lib Dems instead. Hopefully some of them can come back and start the job of building the Labour party back up into an organization that reflects the views of the left as well being a credible potential government.
I don't think he'll last until the next GE as the media has it in for him as he isn't a smooth PR person. Probably in 2018 he'll have a "health scare" and stand down for a media friendly face to take over who will incorporate a couple of soft left policies but be very much an establishment man to take over the country as the devestation of the Tory policies really begins to bite.
Dan Jarvis has said he would serve in a Corbyn cabinet, so... err, yeah.
Yet you still support him
I agree with you. Admittedly I am not a Labour voter but I have several friends who are and all of them have said they would not rather not vote than vote for Corbyn....
EDIT, note it has nothing to do with his looks or how he dresses or having a beard, or any of that other shallow cobblers, it's to do with everything he represents.
It's quite scary really.
Even the likes of the BBC are beyond unfair in their coverage.
Careful, OHG is that one member nobody here dares to disagree with! :eek: :cool: