Nope, just the trash. Moffat's capable of recent greatness (see Heaven Sent) but for the most-part he turns in kiddie-krap that would look underpowered on CBeebies, as this did.
...
Dallas Buyers Club premiere tonight is weird scheduling - Is that what Five thinks sits well on Xmas Day as people recover from a food-coma and are sozzled on all manner of eggy booze? Rating - 400k?
I wonder how many have turned away from ITV in the last few years because of the absolutely ridiculous amount of adverts. Can't say I'm surprised their ratings are going down and down.
I wonder how many have turned away from ITV in the last few years because of the absolutely ridiculous amount of adverts. Can't say I'm surprised their ratings are going down and down.
Well for their biggest shows, they aren't, so there goes that.
BBC1
14:15 - EastEnders (R): 2.98m/3.09m/3.87m
15:40 - Film: ET: the Extra-Terrestrial (R): 6.94m
17:30 - Antiques Roadshow: the Next Generation: 8.78m
18:15 - News: 7.72m
18:35 - Christmas with Cliff: a Songs of Praise Special: 7.19m
19:15 - Last of the Summer Wine: 9.44m
20:15 - 2 Point 4 Children: 9.31m
20:45 - P.G. Wodehouse's Heavy Weather: 4.84m 22:20 - News
22:35 - Morecambe and Wise (R): 7.07m
ITV
15:40 - Film: The Spy Who Loved Me (R): 6.46m 18:00 - News
18:15 - Michael Ball's Christmas Show Below 6.86m
19:15 - Christmas Heartbeat (R): 8.77m
20:15 - You've Been Framed: 11.11m
20:45 - Taggart (R): 8.29m
BBC2
18:15 - Wallace and Gromit in A Close Shave: 10.62m
18:45-19:35 - Rannoch the Red Deer: 4.20m
20:45-21:15 - The Mrs Merton Show: 4.70m
21:50 - Bottom (R): 4.99m
22:20 - Screen Two: The Hawk: 4.68m
I wonder how many have turned away from ITV in the last few years because of the absolutely ridiculous amount of adverts. Can't say I'm surprised their ratings are going down and down.
I expect many. Never watch live anymore. So much time wasted. Last night's ad free Granchester is 66m long.
Two hour dramas that used to have a 100m running time and three breaks are now 88m with six!!
I wonder how many have turned away from ITV in the last few years because of the absolutely ridiculous amount of adverts. Can't say I'm surprised their ratings are going down and down.
I have occasionally considered starting a DS thread entitled "Not Another Bleeping Commercial Break", somewhere I could go to to complain every time I come across a commercial break when channel-hoping or just changing switching over to have a glance at whatever is on such-and-such commercial channel.
Usually you would expect to see the breaks at quarter-past, half-past, quarter-to or on the hour (every fifteen minutes) but somehow it doesn't seem to matter which minute of the hour it is, I still come across a bloody commercial break. For instance I turned over to Gold to catch a bit of The John Bishop Christmas Show at 8.38 and they were on a bloody commercial break. They were also on one on Watch (showing the film Oliver!)
QI XL on Dave was on the programme rather than a break (they've just gone off to one at 8.44), but it's one featuring Carrie Fisher which is a bit uncomfortable (although, of course, she features quite a lot on Sky Star Wars HD (or as Sky appear to have called it, SkyStarWarsHD - no gaps).
I wonder how many have turned away from ITV in the last few years because of the absolutely ridiculous amount of adverts. Can't say I'm surprised their ratings are going down and down.
Well, I don't believe ITV are showing any more adverts than they did a few years ago. It probably just feels like it now there's the option to fast forward through them.
Just turned to BBC1 and watched a little of CTM. Although I appreciate its quality, it just feels totally out of place on Christmas Day. I watched ten mins and felt depressed, not to mention the full 90 mins! These specials would really work on any other day (maybe bar Christmas Eve too) I just don't know why they insist on placing it on Christmas Day!
BBC1
18:30 - The Brittas Empire Christmas Special: 8.57m
19:00 - All the Best for Christmas with Brian Conley: 7.64m
20:00 - A Question of Sport Christmas Special: 9.25m
20:30 - EastEnders: 13.39m (18.61m inc. Sunday repeat)
21:00 - Film: Cliffhanger (Premiere): 12.68m
ITV
17:40-18:00 - News: 7.49m
19:00 - Emmerdale: 12.61m
20:00 - The Bill: 9.99m
20:30 - For One Night Only: Tom Jones: 4.90m 21:30 - News
21:45 - Film: Top Gun (R): 3.40m
BBC1
13:20-13:50 - Just William: 2.99m
16:00-16:30 - The Wrong Trousers (R): 9.57m
16:55 - Final Score: 5.20m 17:15 - News 17:30 - Tom and Jerry (R)
17:35 - Neighbours (R): 5.36m
18:00 - Film: Free Willy (Premiere): 9.79m
19:50 - EastEnders: 14.72m
20:20 - 2 Point 4 Children: 10.82m
21:00 - One Foot on the Grave: 17.47m
22:00 - News: 12.52m
22:15 - Film: Sommersby (Premiere): 6.59m
ITV
16:50 - Film: The Secret Garden (Premiere): 7.85m
18:45 - The Russ Abbot Show Below 7.43m
19:30 - Michael Barrymore's Strike It Rich: 7.57m
20:00 - The Bill: 8.26m
20:30 - Emmerdale: 12.17m
21:00 - The Beast: Part One Below 7.43m
Just turned to BBC1 and watched a little of CTM. Although I appreciate its quality, it just feels totally out of place on Christmas Day. I watched ten mins and felt depressed, not to mention the full 90 mins! These specials would really work on any other day (maybe bar Christmas Eve too) I just don't know why they insist on placing it on Christmas Day!
Totally agree, and I am sure it would rate better on any other day as well, I can't see tonight getting above 6M and another night you could add a couple of extra million. I know it won't change but please next year BBC mix things up, we want some comedy, Entertainment and Animations on Christmas Day not constant drama.
Next year I'd like to see this
3.10 Normal Animated film
4.40 New Animation like The Stick Man we had last year
5.20 Doctor Who
6.20 Strictly Come Dancing
7.30 Eastenders
8.00 Michael McIntyre Christmas Show
9.00 Eastenders
9.35 New comedy/revival
10.10 Mrs Brown's Boys
Not much difference from this year but just splitting Eastenders and bringing in MM instead of CTM makes it look so much better.
BBC1
17:30 - Spice Girls on Top of the Pops: 7.18m
18:00 - News: 7.19m 18:15 - Regional News
18:30 - Celebrity Ready Steady Cook: 7.22m
19:00 - All the Best for Christmas: 7.67m
19:50 - A Perfect Day for Christmas Below 6.85m
19:55 - The Wildlife Specials: Humpback Whale Below 6.85m
20:40 - Naational Lottery Draw Below 6.85m
21:00 - Film: Naked Gun 33 and a Third: the Final Insult (Premiere) 8.05m
22:15 - Harry Enfield and Christmas Chums: 8.81m
3:10 - The Lego Movie
4:50 - News
5:00 - Strictly Come Dancing
6:20 - Doctor Who
7:20 - Miranda (or similar)
7:50 - News
8:00 - EastEnders
8:30 - The Big Christmas Show
9:30 - EastEnders
10:00 - Mrs Brown's Boys
10:40 - Catherine Tate's Nan
11:10 - Fleabag
Just turned to ITV3 to catch a bit of the film Steptoe And Son Ride Again and they're on a bloody commercial break. At 9.37?!!!!! Who the hell has a commercial break at 37 minutes past the hour, YOU IRRITATING ARSEHOLES?!!!!!!!!!!!>:(>:(>:(>:(>:(>:(>:(>:(>:(>:(
Well, I don't believe ITV are showing any more adverts than they did a few years ago. It probably just feels like it now there's the option to fast forward through them.
There are no more adverts than there has been in over a decade and there are also no more on ITV than any other commercial channel.
At this time of year the ad breaks probably feel more intrusive because they are so brash, loud, annoying and repetitive. This probably makes people savour the BBC even more.
I believe DFS have had approx 8 adverts an hour all day on ITV, and probably the same everywhere else as well, so unless their ad budget is 100 billion pounds, it shows how low the rates are.
3:10 - The Lego Movie
4:50 - News
5:00 - Strictly Come Dancing
6:20 - Doctor Who
7:20 - Miranda (or similar)
7:50 - News
8:00 - EastEnders
8:30 - The Big Christmas Show
9:30 - EastEnders
10:00 - Mrs Brown's Boys
10:40 - Catherine Tate's Nan
11:10 - Fleabag
Strictly at 5pm with EastEnders pride of place is like a schedule from a couple of years ago. We'll see how it does today, but I think the BBC have made the right decision moving EastEnders later. Last year it was one of their lowest rated shows and that was at 8.45pm.
Doctor Who doesn't seem to have gone down well. I haven't watched it yet, but I hope its like last years, which was one of the few Moffat Christmas specials I actually enjoyed.
Strictly at 5pm with EastEnders pride of place is like a schedule from a couple of years ago. We'll see how it does today, but I think the BBC have made the right decision moving EastEnders later. Last year it was one of their lowest rated shows and that was at 8.45pm.
EastEnders couldn't go much earlier and Strictly is more of a teatime show, but I wouldn't say EE takes pride of place.
Just turned to BBC1 and watched a little of CTM. Although I appreciate its quality, it just feels totally out of place on Christmas Day. I watched ten mins and felt depressed, not to mention the full 90 mins! These specials would really work on any other day (maybe bar Christmas Eve too) I just don't know why they insist on placing it on Christmas Day!
I can just see you as a 1st Century innkeeper saying, "Sorry luv; I'd give you the stables but I don't think having babies is appropriate for the time of year. Can't you hang on a bit?"
Doctor Who doesn't seem to have gone down well. I haven't watched it yet, but I hope its like last years, which was one of the few Moffat Christmas specials I actually enjoyed.
Sounds ominous for Sherlock - though series four can only be an improvement on last year's Abominable farrago!
1 - Bake Off
2 - Old Cr...sorry the Queen
3 - Mrs Brown
4 - Call The Midwife
5 - Strictly
6 - EE
7 - Frozen
8 - Emmerdale
9 - Coronation Street
10 - Lion King / Dr Who
I wonder how many have turned away from ITV in the last few years because of the absolutely ridiculous amount of adverts. Can't say I'm surprised their ratings are going down and down.
That's why people have PVRs and watch such programmes time shifted. No one watches programmes that contain ads live any more surely? The skip button on our Humax is set to the same length as your average ad break - hey presto no ads.
Comments
2015:
06:00 - Breakfast: 1.26m (32.4%)
09:00 - Shrek the Halls: 2.18m (25.6%)
09:20 - Clangers: 1.77m (19.5%)
09:35 - Danger Mouse: 1.42m (14.4%)
10:00 - Christmas Day Service Live from Bath Abbey: 1.13m (10.0%)
11:00 - FILM: The Santa Clause 3: The Escape Clause: 1.50m (12.3%)
12:25 - FILM: Madagascar 3: Europe's Most Wanted: 2.26m (18.5%)
13:50 - BBC News at One: 2.34m (20.1%)
14:00 - Top of the Pops Christmas: 2.83m (23.1%)
15:00 - The Queen: 6.10m (39.1%)
15:10 - FILM: Brave: 5.50m (35.4%)
16:35 - BBC News: 5.36m (32.5%)
16:45 - Stick Man: 6.36m (34.5%)
17:15 - Doctor Who: 5.77m (29.4%)
18:15 - Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special: 6.49m (30.3%)
19:30 - Call the Midwife Christmas Special: 5.80m (24.5%)
20:45 - EastEnders: 5.73m (23.8%)
21:45 - Mrs Brown's Boys Christmas Special: 6.41m (27.7%)
22:25 - Michael McIntyre's Big Christmas Show: 3.62m (20.4%)
BBC Two
18:30 - World's Sneakiest Animals: 1.10m (5.1%)
19:30 - Dad's Army: 1.53m (6.5%)
20:00 - The Two Ronnies Christmas Special: 1.47m (6.2%)
20:50 - Darcey's Ballet Heroes: 1.01m (4.2%)
21:50 - QI: 0.81m (3.5%)
22:20 - We're Doomed! The Dad's Army Story: 0.94m (5.1%)
ITV (inc +1)
09:25 - FILM: Santa Claus: The Movie: 1.68m (15.3%)
11:30 - FILM: Happy Feet: 1.56m (12.6%)
15:00 - HM The Queen: 1.34m (8.6%)
15:10 - Cameraman to the Queen: 1.05m (6.9%)
16:10 - Countrywise Winter Wonderland: 1.17m (7.0%)
17:00 - Paul O'Grady: For the Love of Dogs at Christmas: 3.15m (16.2%)
18:00 - ITV Evening News: 3.61m (18.1%)
18:15 - You've Been Framed!: 3.08m (14.9%)
18:45 - Emmerdale: 4.42m (19.9%)
19:45 - Coronation Street: 5.85m (24.6%)
20:45 - Downton Abbey: 6.88m (29.6%)
22:45 - Our Cilla: 2.11m (14.0%)
Channel 4 (inc +1)
17:45 - FILM: Home Alone 2: Lost in New York: 2.81m (13.1%)
20:00 - Gogglesprogs: 2.60m (10.8%)
21:00 - Alan Carr: Chatty Man Christmas Special: 1.19m (5.3%)
Channel 5 (inc +1)
15:15 - The Wizard of Oz: 1.11m (6.9%)
17:15 - Michael Buble's Christmas 2015: 0.89m (4.4%)
18:00 - Britain's Favourite Christmas Songs: 0.90m (4.0%)
ITV2 (inc +1)
16:00 - FILM: E.T: 625k (3.4%)
18:15 - FILM: The Lost World: Jurassic Park: 654k (3.0%)
20:45 - FILM: Quantum of Solace: 1.36m (6.0%)
BBC Three
19:30 - FILM: Toy Story: 764k (3.2%)
20:45 - FILM: How to Train Your Dragon: 855k (3.6%)
23:00 - EastEnders: 583k (4.3%)
Primetime shares
ITV: 24.9% (+1: 0.9%)
BBC One: 24.8%
Channel 4: 7.5% (+1: 1.5%)
BBC Two: 5.1%
Channel 5: 3.2% (+1: 0.2%)
All-day shares
BBC One: 24.3%
ITV: 15.3% (+1: 0.9%)
Channel 4: 7.2% (+1: 1.3%)
BBC Two: 4.3%
Channel 5: 3.7% (+1: 0.3%)
BBC One Breakdown Downton Abbey Breakdown
Nope, just the trash. Moffat's capable of recent greatness (see Heaven Sent) but for the most-part he turns in kiddie-krap that would look underpowered on CBeebies, as this did.
...
Dallas Buyers Club premiere tonight is weird scheduling - Is that what Five thinks sits well on Xmas Day as people recover from a food-coma and are sozzled on all manner of eggy booze? Rating - 400k?
Well for their biggest shows, they aren't, so there goes that.
Ah, sorry, must have misread. Though Lady in the Van has been on Sky Store at least.
BBC1
14:15 - EastEnders (R): 2.98m/3.09m/3.87m
15:40 - Film: ET: the Extra-Terrestrial (R): 6.94m
17:30 - Antiques Roadshow: the Next Generation: 8.78m
18:15 - News: 7.72m
18:35 - Christmas with Cliff: a Songs of Praise Special: 7.19m
19:15 - Last of the Summer Wine: 9.44m
20:15 - 2 Point 4 Children: 9.31m
20:45 - P.G. Wodehouse's Heavy Weather: 4.84m
22:20 - News
22:35 - Morecambe and Wise (R): 7.07m
ITV
15:40 - Film: The Spy Who Loved Me (R): 6.46m
18:00 - News
18:15 - Michael Ball's Christmas Show Below 6.86m
19:15 - Christmas Heartbeat (R): 8.77m
20:15 - You've Been Framed: 11.11m
20:45 - Taggart (R): 8.29m
BBC2
18:15 - Wallace and Gromit in A Close Shave: 10.62m
18:45-19:35 - Rannoch the Red Deer: 4.20m
20:45-21:15 - The Mrs Merton Show: 4.70m
21:50 - Bottom (R): 4.99m
22:20 - Screen Two: The Hawk: 4.68m
Monday 25 December 1995:
http://christmasdaybbc1.weebly.com/1995.html
00:00-00:05 - I Hate Christmas: 5.06m
Tuesday 26 December 1995:
BBC1
14:10 - Film: Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (R): 8.99m
16:10 - Disney Time Below 7.75m
16:50 - Final Score: 7.34m
17:15 - News: 8.12m
17:30 - Cartoon
17:40 - Neighbours (R): 7.37m (12.95m inc. earlier showing)
18:05 - Film: Beethoven (Premiere): 12.06m
19:30 - EastEnders: 12.11m (repeated Monday 1st January, so combined rating not known)
20:00 - Goodnight Sweetheart: 10.66m
20:50 - The Thin Blue Line: 11.75m
21:20 - Film: Patriot Games (Premiere): 11.94m
ITV
19:00 - Emmerdale: 10.23m (13.51m inc. repeat)
20:00 - Michael Barrymore's My Kind of People: 10.32m
20:30 - Cadfael: 7.37m
I expect many. Never watch live anymore. So much time wasted. Last night's ad free Granchester is 66m long.
Two hour dramas that used to have a 100m running time and three breaks are now 88m with six!!
I have occasionally considered starting a DS thread entitled "Not Another Bleeping Commercial Break", somewhere I could go to to complain every time I come across a commercial break when channel-hoping or just changing switching over to have a glance at whatever is on such-and-such commercial channel.
Usually you would expect to see the breaks at quarter-past, half-past, quarter-to or on the hour (every fifteen minutes) but somehow it doesn't seem to matter which minute of the hour it is, I still come across a bloody commercial break. For instance I turned over to Gold to catch a bit of The John Bishop Christmas Show at 8.38 and they were on a bloody commercial break. They were also on one on Watch (showing the film Oliver!)
QI XL on Dave was on the programme rather than a break (they've just gone off to one at 8.44), but it's one featuring Carrie Fisher which is a bit uncomfortable (although, of course, she features quite a lot on Sky Star Wars HD (or as Sky appear to have called it, SkyStarWarsHD - no gaps).
Well, I don't believe ITV are showing any more adverts than they did a few years ago. It probably just feels like it now there's the option to fast forward through them.
BBC1
18:30 - The Brittas Empire Christmas Special: 8.57m
19:00 - All the Best for Christmas with Brian Conley: 7.64m
20:00 - A Question of Sport Christmas Special: 9.25m
20:30 - EastEnders: 13.39m (18.61m inc. Sunday repeat)
21:00 - Film: Cliffhanger (Premiere): 12.68m
ITV
17:40-18:00 - News: 7.49m
19:00 - Emmerdale: 12.61m
20:00 - The Bill: 9.99m
20:30 - For One Night Only: Tom Jones: 4.90m
21:30 - News
21:45 - Film: Top Gun (R): 3.40m
http://christmasdaybbc1.weebly.com/1996.html
Thursday 26 December 1996:
BBC1
13:20-13:50 - Just William: 2.99m
16:00-16:30 - The Wrong Trousers (R): 9.57m
16:55 - Final Score: 5.20m
17:15 - News
17:30 - Tom and Jerry (R)
17:35 - Neighbours (R): 5.36m
18:00 - Film: Free Willy (Premiere): 9.79m
19:50 - EastEnders: 14.72m
20:20 - 2 Point 4 Children: 10.82m
21:00 - One Foot on the Grave: 17.47m
22:00 - News: 12.52m
22:15 - Film: Sommersby (Premiere): 6.59m
ITV
16:50 - Film: The Secret Garden (Premiere): 7.85m
18:45 - The Russ Abbot Show Below 7.43m
19:30 - Michael Barrymore's Strike It Rich: 7.57m
20:00 - The Bill: 8.26m
20:30 - Emmerdale: 12.17m
21:00 - The Beast: Part One Below 7.43m
Totally agree, and I am sure it would rate better on any other day as well, I can't see tonight getting above 6M and another night you could add a couple of extra million. I know it won't change but please next year BBC mix things up, we want some comedy, Entertainment and Animations on Christmas Day not constant drama.
Next year I'd like to see this
3.10 Normal Animated film
4.40 New Animation like The Stick Man we had last year
5.20 Doctor Who
6.20 Strictly Come Dancing
7.30 Eastenders
8.00 Michael McIntyre Christmas Show
9.00 Eastenders
9.35 New comedy/revival
10.10 Mrs Brown's Boys
Not much difference from this year but just splitting Eastenders and bringing in MM instead of CTM makes it look so much better.
Christmas 1997:
BBC1
17:30 - Spice Girls on Top of the Pops: 7.18m
18:00 - News: 7.19m
18:15 - Regional News
18:30 - Celebrity Ready Steady Cook: 7.22m
19:00 - All the Best for Christmas: 7.67m
19:50 - A Perfect Day for Christmas Below 6.85m
19:55 - The Wildlife Specials: Humpback Whale Below 6.85m
20:40 - Naational Lottery Draw Below 6.85m
21:00 - Film: Naked Gun 33 and a Third: the Final Insult (Premiere) 8.05m
22:15 - Harry Enfield and Christmas Chums: 8.81m
ITV
17:45 - Film: Look Who's Talking Now! (Premiere): 7.11m
19:30 - Emmerdale: 11.69m
20:00 - Des O'Connor Tonight: 8.88m
21:00 - Black Velvet Band: 8.60m
http://christmasdaybbc1.weebly.com/1997.html
Friday 26 December 1997:
BBC1
16:50 - Final Score: 6.23m
17:10 - News
17:25 - Neighbours (R)
17:50 - Big Break 5.00m
18:20 - Film: Beethoven's 2nd: 9.14m
19:40 - EastEnders: 11.91m
20:10 - Blankety Blank: 7.72m
20:40 - News: 7.94m
20:55 - Perfect Day at Christmas: 9.00m
21:00 - The Vicar of Dibley: 12.45m
21:40 - Before They Were Famous II: 12.78m
22:15 - Film: True Lies (Premiere): 10.07m
ITV
16:10 - The Canterville Ghost: 4.81m
17:40 - News: 7.00m
17:50 - Emmerdale: 9.26m
18:20 - Film: Forever Young (R) Below 6.85m
20:20 - Coronation Street: 13.55m
20:50 - News: 9.05m
21:00 - Dame Edna Kisses It Better: 4.90m
22:00 - Film: Dances With Wolves (R) Below 6.85m
3:10 - The Lego Movie
4:50 - News
5:00 - Strictly Come Dancing
6:20 - Doctor Who
7:20 - Miranda (or similar)
7:50 - News
8:00 - EastEnders
8:30 - The Big Christmas Show
9:30 - EastEnders
10:00 - Mrs Brown's Boys
10:40 - Catherine Tate's Nan
11:10 - Fleabag
There are no more adverts than there has been in over a decade and there are also no more on ITV than any other commercial channel.
At this time of year the ad breaks probably feel more intrusive because they are so brash, loud, annoying and repetitive. This probably makes people savour the BBC even more.
I believe DFS have had approx 8 adverts an hour all day on ITV, and probably the same everywhere else as well, so unless their ad budget is 100 billion pounds, it shows how low the rates are.
Strictly at 5pm with EastEnders pride of place is like a schedule from a couple of years ago. We'll see how it does today, but I think the BBC have made the right decision moving EastEnders later. Last year it was one of their lowest rated shows and that was at 8.45pm.
I have a feeling Bake Off will do very well tomorrow. Still can't decide if that, Frozen or Strictly will top the day.
EastEnders couldn't go much earlier and Strictly is more of a teatime show, but I wouldn't say EE takes pride of place.
I can just see you as a 1st Century innkeeper saying, "Sorry luv; I'd give you the stables but I don't think having babies is appropriate for the time of year. Can't you hang on a bit?"
:rolleyes:
Sounds ominous for Sherlock - though series four can only be an improvement on last year's Abominable farrago!
1 - Bake Off
2 - Old Cr...sorry the Queen
3 - Mrs Brown
4 - Call The Midwife
5 - Strictly
6 - EE
7 - Frozen
8 - Emmerdale
9 - Coronation Street
10 - Lion King / Dr Who
That's why people have PVRs and watch such programmes time shifted. No one watches programmes that contain ads live any more surely? The skip button on our Humax is set to the same length as your average ad break - hey presto no ads.