It's interesting that it was the BBC themselves that wanted Luke to be gay. You can imagine everyone would have pinned that decision on RTD, without a doubt!
DM would've moaned, no-one else would've given a toss what they thought.
It does kind of make sense though with Luke and I think it's brilliant that someone at the CBBC was forward thinking enough to consider the idea and it would've been nice as well for a kids programme having a gay character being one of the heroes of the show.
It's a shame it didn't happen because it would've been great.
DM would've moaned, no-one else would've given a toss what they thought.
It does kind of make sense though with Luke and I think it's brilliant that someone at the CBBC was forward thinking enough to consider the idea and it would've been nice as well for a kids programme having a gay character being one of the heroes of the show.
It's a shame it didn't happen because it would've been great.
Exactly. I usually blanche at any sort of mindless tokenism but this wouldn't have been that. It would have been doing what the BBC are meant to do...a public service. The lack of gay leads in children/teenage TV is noticeable and so it would have been another great move on the Whoniverses part to have acknowledged that and done something about it. Homophobia and prejudice often forms in those years and so to have had such a character would have been valuable indeed and no doubt a real help in many ways to young gay people discovering their sexuality.
Exactly. I usually blanche at any sort of mindless tokenism but this wouldn't have been that. It would have been doing what the BBC are meant to do...a public service. The lack of gay leads in children/teenage TV is noticeable and so it would have been another great move on the Whoniverses part to have acknowledged that and done something about it. Homophobia and prejudice often forms in those years and so to have had such a character would have been valuable indeed and no doubt a real help in many ways to young gay people discovering their sexuality.
Agree 100%. It would have been thoughtful, logical and heartfelt. And I would have loved them to show how cool Sarah Jane was, accepting a Gay son.
A shame this never came to pass... SJA matured so much as a show in its final two series, and it was topical things like this flittering in the background that helped give it heart.
So long as it never got in the way of the alien-adventures element, I think this would have been a perfect development, even if to some extent you could somewhat see it coming.
I'll regard it as canon in my head, as it came from the Beeb rather than RTD. It goes to show there were some forward thinking people in there.
shocked that the bbc would even consider having such a character in a childrens program.
Why? Whether you personally would like it or not, the BBC has an obligation to reflect the real world. Why would it not extend that to the children's programming?
And why would that be a bad thing? I personally wouldn't like to call it brave - in this day and age it should not be an issue at all. But it kind of was for them to suggest it. And that in itself is a little tragic.
Why? Whether you personally would like it or not, the BBC has an obligation to reflect the real world. Why would it not extend that to the children's programming?
And why would that be a bad thing? I personally wouldn't like to call it brave - in this day and age it should not be an issue at all. But it kind of was for them to suggest it. And that in itself is a little tragic.
I wouldn't bother - this is a poster who also would stop watching if a black actor became Doctor Who - I think he's told us all we need to know about him.
I wouldn't bother - this is a poster who also would stop watching if a black actor became Doctor Who - I think he's told us all we need to know about him.
Congrats to John Barrowman and Scott Gill on tying the knot in California. I hope they will be very happy together and I wish them the very best of luck. Nice to happen in the show's 50th Anniversary year.
shocked that the bbc would even consider having such a character in a childrens program.
Shocked that someone would even think it was shocking in this day and age. Wasn't there a gay character in Byker Grove donkey's years ago? Wake up. It's the 21st century now!
shocked that the bbc would even consider having such a character in a childrens program.
I thought this thread was getting surprisingly far without any homophones. Oh well.
But I can't see how it would be a problem, so long as wasn't suggested purely for the sake of having a gay character to prove a point. Although maybe 5 series is a bit late to clarify his sexuality?
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Shame we couldn't have had a further series. Does that mean it is now canon that Luke Smith is gay?
It does kind of make sense though with Luke and I think it's brilliant that someone at the CBBC was forward thinking enough to consider the idea and it would've been nice as well for a kids programme having a gay character being one of the heroes of the show.
It's a shame it didn't happen because it would've been great.
Exactly. I usually blanche at any sort of mindless tokenism but this wouldn't have been that. It would have been doing what the BBC are meant to do...a public service. The lack of gay leads in children/teenage TV is noticeable and so it would have been another great move on the Whoniverses part to have acknowledged that and done something about it. Homophobia and prejudice often forms in those years and so to have had such a character would have been valuable indeed and no doubt a real help in many ways to young gay people discovering their sexuality.
Agree 100%. It would have been thoughtful, logical and heartfelt. And I would have loved them to show how cool Sarah Jane was, accepting a Gay son.
Who's DM?
Oh, I've worked it out. DM stands for Daily Mail. Duh! How silly of me, not to have worked it out first. :rolleyes:
So does that mean, as we didn't get a further series with Luke becoming gay, he isn't?
Daily Mail :mad:
Yes and no.
Because we didn't see it actually happen onscreen, then you could say no but because it was intended to happen you could also say yes.
One for personal headcanon I think.
So long as it never got in the way of the alien-adventures element, I think this would have been a perfect development, even if to some extent you could somewhat see it coming.
I'll regard it as canon in my head, as it came from the Beeb rather than RTD. It goes to show there were some forward thinking people in there.
shocked that the bbc would even consider having such a character in a childrens program.
Is Luke's being Gay canon? That's a thread in itself, tiggerpooh!
Why? Whether you personally would like it or not, the BBC has an obligation to reflect the real world. Why would it not extend that to the children's programming?
And why would that be a bad thing? I personally wouldn't like to call it brave - in this day and age it should not be an issue at all. But it kind of was for them to suggest it. And that in itself is a little tragic.
I wouldn't bother - this is a poster who also would stop watching if a black actor became Doctor Who - I think he's told us all we need to know about him.
Aah... Like our old friend cloud factory...
Cheers for the heads-up!
Technically, by classification I think. But not born - created.
Congrats to John Barrowman and Scott Gill on tying the knot in California. I hope they will be very happy together and I wish them the very best of luck. Nice to happen in the show's 50th Anniversary year.
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Shocked that someone would even think it was shocking in this day and age. Wasn't there a gay character in Byker Grove donkey's years ago? Wake up. It's the 21st century now!
Children can be gay too...
I thought this thread was getting surprisingly far without any homophones. Oh well.
But I can't see how it would be a problem, so long as wasn't suggested purely for the sake of having a gay character to prove a point. Although maybe 5 series is a bit late to clarify his sexuality?