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Crime rates now, compared to past generations.
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Few threads have got me thinking.
It seems now that there is more 'general on the street crime'. Meaning, violence, theft, burglary, drugs, drug related crimes, cars being stolen, broken in to, yard equipment being stolen, garden shed being ransacked.
Why is this? Is it because there is too much 'low level' crime for police to investigate, they maybe don't have the resources, do the police not have the manning levels, paperwork and red tape taking too much police time instead of being out on the beat, do they lack the same powers as before, don't put the same 'fear' into people, that punishments are too lax so the 'time doesnt fit the crime', prisons too full?
I've maybe answered my own question in a way but I'm wondering what other Dser's thoughts are?
It seems now that there is more 'general on the street crime'. Meaning, violence, theft, burglary, drugs, drug related crimes, cars being stolen, broken in to, yard equipment being stolen, garden shed being ransacked.
Why is this? Is it because there is too much 'low level' crime for police to investigate, they maybe don't have the resources, do the police not have the manning levels, paperwork and red tape taking too much police time instead of being out on the beat, do they lack the same powers as before, don't put the same 'fear' into people, that punishments are too lax so the 'time doesnt fit the crime', prisons too full?
I've maybe answered my own question in a way but I'm wondering what other Dser's thoughts are?
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What we do have now is gang violence, which the police have singularly failed to deal with, and general loutish and sometimes threatening behavior on the streets, though I may notice that more because I'm now 20 years older
There is just as much, possibly more, low level crime and public order offences now but many of these are considered too low level to deal with by the powers that be. Either that or they are now considered council and not police matters.
Years ago, if your neighbours played loud music at 3am, the police would be round to stop them. Nowdays they're so bogged down in red tape and paperwork that these matters are just reported to the council who may send a letter six weeks later.
Prisons are bursting to capacity now but now I've just typed that, something 'sparked' in my mind about prisons being overcrowded a generation or two ago which doesn't happen as much now, you've given me something else to think about!
You're on the nose with the general thuggery and loutish thing, that's more what I meant.
And comparing the crime rates of today and yesteryear is pointless since so many variables - mainly, population and urbanization - mean that latter years' crime rates should always be higher. If they are in fact lower than say, 50 years ago, then The Sun may as well stop trading
Just like this \/
Thanks for providing an example of this, Snakes!
The British Crime Survey (BCS) revealed that the number of offences dropped by 9% over the 2009/10 period. This translates to a decrease from 10.5 million offences to 9.6 million. According to the report this is the lowest level of crime in the UK since 1981.
Over 2009/10 there were 7,995 firearm offences. This is a decrease of 3% from last year's figures.
The report also revealed that police recorded 615 murders during this period. This figure shows a drop by 6% on the previous year. - Crimestoppers
Do you even live in the real world? I cannot believe someone can be so blinkered.
Good point, news coverage was something I hadn't even given a thought to. Of course it will have a big impact on the public perception and muddy the waters.
thanks for putting this up, interesting info. In line with the amount of media coverage, if the figures are true here, it must be bloody demoralising for the Police that it can seem things are getting worse to 'joe public', when it look like they actually aren't.
Shame about that seeing as those are the crimes that most of us are worried about...
The recorder changes as much as the recordings.
Political opinions aside, something is seriously wrong with these decisions. The outlook is gonna be a whole lot rosier for criminals, to the detriment of people that respect and abide by the law, and actually contribute towards society and the judicial system that is there to protect them.
I would imagine that whilst reported crime may be down .... ACTUAL crime is probably on the increase .
There is simply no point in reporting minor crimes anyway !!!
I gave a perfect example of this on a similar thread today. i believe you to be right.
Considering that many petty crimes aren't even reported and even reported crimes aren't acted upon , hte massive increase in sirens may just suggest a massive increase in serious or fairly serous crime ! ?
The Vikings nowadays have to put up with barbaric invaders raping their women :mad: .
Crime is down because the tolerance of bad behaviour is far more than it was in my day. If I told a copper to 'fcuk off', I was quite rightly stoved in and then told to go away. If I didn't get the message and carried on I would be charged and jailed for a night.
It is not crime that is down, it is the recognition of them, because it is too much hassle to record them.
people might have felt safer, but the system was far less transparent and fewer people were ever caught. the media quietly collaborated with the government to keep the public calm instead of the shrieking, sensationalist headlines of today.
i often wonder how david cameron will fix "broken britain" when he seems so committed to slashing police budgets, cutting benefits and reducing social care funding. all of this can only increase crime rates.
Alot of crime is being committed these days and people are getting away with it because we haven't got any real punishments. Murders, rapists, paedophiles are let off and given ridiculously short sentences and some of them go back out and commit the crime again, and sometimes again and again and our system is allowing them.