I know plenty of 18 year olds who aren't interested in being in a relationship. He's still pretty young, with plenty going on in his life, so maybe he isn't linked to anyone because he doesn't want a partner at this moment in time.
And if he is gay, then I wouldn't blame him for keeping him quiet. He's had constant speculation about his sexuality for years, which must be awful when you are in your teens, regardless of what your sexual orientation is. Its not anyone's business either way.
i remember hearing he was with lauren pope from towie a few times and had that american girlfriend so i dont particuarly think he's someone who we never hear of dating people to be fair...
You've probably read or been told that because it came directly from the pages of the biggest PR shill factory in Britain, the Daily Mail (plus the Mirror etc at the time) who were going mental reporting Tom Daley was with Kassidy the American swimmer (which he denied), before hotly pursuing a new 'lead' with Lauren from TOWIE because they were seen once on a night out. So clearly dating and planning for a family if you happen to write for the DM.
It all comes out of the pages of the tabloids and most of it is utter crepe.
He's got a talent yeah and he's done well but he's far more concerned with becoming a celebrity these days.
And he is clearly gay and I think it's pretty wrong of him not to come out about it, there are thousands of young people out there that would be really encouraged by him, he could be such a source of strength to many.
He may be gay he may be straight, thats his business and his alone. As for being clearly gay, how exactly ? some people say camp, at times maybe but then so are many people in humour , camp does not mean automatically gay.
If he was gay and hid it whilst pretending to be straight and speaking out against gay people that would be wrong, but from what I see he is a guy who is good at his sport, he is getting on with his life, working hard and not splashing his sex life over the tabloids, whats wrong with that ?
Yes it would be good if more high profile people who were gay came out, but thats their choice it can and should never be forced, and if Tom is not gay how could he come out ?
Footballer in gay magazine: it's time to tackle the last taboo
West Ham United winger Matt Jarvis appears on cover of Attitude and says gay footballers should feel able to come out
West Ham United winger Matt Jarvis has become only the third footballer to feature on the cover of the UK's bestselling gay magazine in an effort to break one of the game's biggest remaining taboos. The footballer, who is married, follows David Beckham, who appeared on the cover of Attitude in 2002, and Freddie Ljungberg in 2006. The magazine has been published since 1994.
In an interview, the winger said it was time that a gay footballer felt comfortable enough to come out. "It's everyday life. It's not something that's going to be a shock," he said. "I'm sure there are many footballers who are gay, but when they decide to actually come out and say it, it is a different story. It's one that I'm sure they've thought about many times. But it's a hard thing for them to do."
In 1990 Justin Fashanu – the first black £1m footballer, who played for Norwich, Nottingham Forest and Hearts – suffered extended abuse after coming out. He killed himself eight years later.
The only footballer to come out since is Anton Hysen, a player in the Swedish lower leagues.
Asked about Clare Balding's recent comments that being out could help a sportsperson's performance, Jarvis said: "I'd agree with that. Because you've always got something you're worried about at the back of your mind. If you can let that go and then just concentrate on your one goal, which is whichever sport you're doing to the best of your ability, I think that would help. Definitely."
Jarvis told Attitude that he thought times had changed and an openly gay footballer would receive the support he needed. "There'd be support everywhere within the football community, whether it be players, fans or within the PFA [Professional Footballers' Association]. There would definitely be groups of people who would be supportive and help them through it," he said.
Homophobia in football remains a stubborn problem, said Alice Ashworth, policy officer at Stonewall. "Our polling has found that one in four football fans think it is an anti-gay sport, while seven in 10 fans had heard homophobic abuse on the terraces. There is still a culture in the game that means being gay is not tolerated in the same way as it is in other professions and society at large," she said. The charity works closely with the FA and the PFA following YouGov research in 2009 in which half of respondents felt key football organisations were not doing enough.
Matthew Todd, the editor of Attitude, said it was time football started tackling homophobia in the same way it addressed racism. "It's ridiculous that there are no openly gay players in professional football," he said. "There's rightly been a focus on ridding the beautiful game of racism, but there doesn't seem to be much effort to tackle homophobia. We know there are gay players – and fans who support the game religiously – so I hope this starts a discussion and is a small step in the right direction."
I just wish he would disappear and go focus on his diving all year round and prepare for the next event and eventually the Olympics. The Splash show is arguably the most useless, pointless and stupid TV show I have seen in my life time.
It proved nothing, it taught us nothing, no one won anything on it (perhaps except some publicity for Mr Daly himself..) and just took up a slot which ITV could have perhaps used to show something different.
The actual implementation of the art of diving as a sport on the show was a complete and utter joke from start to finish. You might as well have had them showing us how they get into a bath given how pathetic the actual dives were.
If you are going to do a TV show which involves a skill or even a test, make sure the contestants have some sort of grasp on how to do the basics of that skill or test at least.
It is certainly a celebrity's business if they want to announce it or not.
The trouble with celebrities is that it's a profession where they often want their business to become OUR business by virtue of selling themselves to us as marketable or for having star quality so we buy whatever it is they are offering up publicly to further themselves. This includes buying into some downright porky pies, this is fact. Not just regarding orientation but almost anything you can think of.
What is more of an issue is that there are organisations and agencies whose life blood revolves around closeting people to the point where people are paying lawyers and other media vehicles to actively lie on their behalf with the most ridiculous stories to hoodwink the public. Max Clifford and his admission he actively beards up gay footballers and other celebs? Who he's quoting will be the tip of the iceberg. He won't even want to say how many gays are on his books. Nobody minds anybody who lives quietly but those who employ the media to aggressively counter who they are often end up tripping themselves up by looking too obvious.
Mot saying Daley has done this at all, he may just be the victim of silly newspaper stories. But I am sure by now he has a PR team in place. And I'm making no comment on his orientation as I don't know enough about him.
It just occurred to me that for someone who has become quite the `media ****` , (not a bad thing), he never seems to be romantically linked to anyone !
He's a good looking boy with a perfect body, he's always out on the London scene, surely with all this fame and his looks, he must of been getting his end away!
Yet we never hear of it, I remember he was briefly linked to another athlete girl, but I think that was because they once shared a taxi :rolleyes:
I thought the media would be all over his private life!
How has he got away with it ?
He's 18 and a top athlete aiming to win more golds. He should be training 23 hours a day. Socialising would be low down the agenda even if he had time and energy left over.
It is certainly a celebrity's business if they want to announce it or not.
Ah, the faustian pact. Appear on TV once, take the 30 pieces of gold and forever after you are public property with no right to privacy. Medical details? The public has a right to know. Argument with an idiot stalker in a pub? The public has a right to know. Renting a flat? The public has a right to know if he has a special deal. Wonder how much tax they pay. Who do they phone? When?
This football situation is quite bizarre. It's all machismo and most would shag anything with a vagina attached to it, but they are afraid of what would happen if they dropped a soap in a shower and there was a gay guy around. Could they stop him? Would they want to? :rolleyes:
He may be gay he may be straight, thats his business and his alone. As for being clearly gay, how exactly ? some people say camp, at times maybe but then so are many people in humour , camp does not mean automatically gay.
If he was gay and hid it whilst pretending to be straight and speaking out against gay people that would be wrong, but from what I see he is a guy who is good at his sport, he is getting on with his life, working hard and not splashing his sex life over the tabloids, whats wrong with that ?
Yes it would be good if more high profile people who were gay came out, but thats their choice it can and should never be forced, and if Tom is not gay how could he come out ?
Very well said.
Also, I would like to point out, that it takes a confident person to be seen coupled up with a celebrity in public. First there will be the "beard" comments. And then the looks, background and personality of the person going out with a celeb will be torn apart by fans and non-fans. If you dress up too much, you are a media-****, if you choose more laid back style, you are plain or ugly. Sometimes the public can be really unfairly harsh on a person just because they were seen drinking coffee with a celeb.
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Some people never come to terms with their sexuality. Then there are bisexuals, who can't make their minds up.
You're not suggesting Tom Daley is the new George Michael are you?
Perhaps there should be some kind of "coming out hierarchy".
Exactly.
And if he is gay, then I wouldn't blame him for keeping him quiet. He's had constant speculation about his sexuality for years, which must be awful when you are in your teens, regardless of what your sexual orientation is. Its not anyone's business either way.
You've probably read or been told that because it came directly from the pages of the biggest PR shill factory in Britain, the Daily Mail (plus the Mirror etc at the time) who were going mental reporting Tom Daley was with Kassidy the American swimmer (which he denied), before hotly pursuing a new 'lead' with Lauren from TOWIE because they were seen once on a night out. So clearly dating and planning for a family if you happen to write for the DM.
It all comes out of the pages of the tabloids and most of it is utter crepe.
Ah the beard, very plain one at that
Such natural photographs;)
He may be gay he may be straight, thats his business and his alone. As for being clearly gay, how exactly ? some people say camp, at times maybe but then so are many people in humour , camp does not mean automatically gay.
If he was gay and hid it whilst pretending to be straight and speaking out against gay people that would be wrong, but from what I see he is a guy who is good at his sport, he is getting on with his life, working hard and not splashing his sex life over the tabloids, whats wrong with that ?
Yes it would be good if more high profile people who were gay came out, but thats their choice it can and should never be forced, and if Tom is not gay how could he come out ?
Perhaps there should, starting with football. Football has a particular problem with this.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/jan/03/football-homophobia-attitude
Footballer in gay magazine: it's time to tackle the last taboo
West Ham United winger Matt Jarvis appears on cover of Attitude and says gay footballers should feel able to come out
West Ham United winger Matt Jarvis has become only the third footballer to feature on the cover of the UK's bestselling gay magazine in an effort to break one of the game's biggest remaining taboos. The footballer, who is married, follows David Beckham, who appeared on the cover of Attitude in 2002, and Freddie Ljungberg in 2006. The magazine has been published since 1994.
In an interview, the winger said it was time that a gay footballer felt comfortable enough to come out. "It's everyday life. It's not something that's going to be a shock," he said. "I'm sure there are many footballers who are gay, but when they decide to actually come out and say it, it is a different story. It's one that I'm sure they've thought about many times. But it's a hard thing for them to do."
In 1990 Justin Fashanu – the first black £1m footballer, who played for Norwich, Nottingham Forest and Hearts – suffered extended abuse after coming out. He killed himself eight years later.
The only footballer to come out since is Anton Hysen, a player in the Swedish lower leagues.
Asked about Clare Balding's recent comments that being out could help a sportsperson's performance, Jarvis said: "I'd agree with that. Because you've always got something you're worried about at the back of your mind. If you can let that go and then just concentrate on your one goal, which is whichever sport you're doing to the best of your ability, I think that would help. Definitely."
Jarvis told Attitude that he thought times had changed and an openly gay footballer would receive the support he needed. "There'd be support everywhere within the football community, whether it be players, fans or within the PFA [Professional Footballers' Association]. There would definitely be groups of people who would be supportive and help them through it," he said.
Homophobia in football remains a stubborn problem, said Alice Ashworth, policy officer at Stonewall. "Our polling has found that one in four football fans think it is an anti-gay sport, while seven in 10 fans had heard homophobic abuse on the terraces. There is still a culture in the game that means being gay is not tolerated in the same way as it is in other professions and society at large," she said. The charity works closely with the FA and the PFA following YouGov research in 2009 in which half of respondents felt key football organisations were not doing enough.
Matthew Todd, the editor of Attitude, said it was time football started tackling homophobia in the same way it addressed racism. "It's ridiculous that there are no openly gay players in professional football," he said. "There's rightly been a focus on ridding the beautiful game of racism, but there doesn't seem to be much effort to tackle homophobia. We know there are gay players – and fans who support the game religiously – so I hope this starts a discussion and is a small step in the right direction."
It proved nothing, it taught us nothing, no one won anything on it (perhaps except some publicity for Mr Daly himself..) and just took up a slot which ITV could have perhaps used to show something different.
The actual implementation of the art of diving as a sport on the show was a complete and utter joke from start to finish. You might as well have had them showing us how they get into a bath given how pathetic the actual dives were.
If you are going to do a TV show which involves a skill or even a test, make sure the contestants have some sort of grasp on how to do the basics of that skill or test at least.
The trouble with celebrities is that it's a profession where they often want their business to become OUR business by virtue of selling themselves to us as marketable or for having star quality so we buy whatever it is they are offering up publicly to further themselves. This includes buying into some downright porky pies, this is fact. Not just regarding orientation but almost anything you can think of.
What is more of an issue is that there are organisations and agencies whose life blood revolves around closeting people to the point where people are paying lawyers and other media vehicles to actively lie on their behalf with the most ridiculous stories to hoodwink the public. Max Clifford and his admission he actively beards up gay footballers and other celebs? Who he's quoting will be the tip of the iceberg. He won't even want to say how many gays are on his books. Nobody minds anybody who lives quietly but those who employ the media to aggressively counter who they are often end up tripping themselves up by looking too obvious.
Mot saying Daley has done this at all, he may just be the victim of silly newspaper stories. But I am sure by now he has a PR team in place. And I'm making no comment on his orientation as I don't know enough about him.
Does it really matter?
Is it that much of a concern to you?
This is a discussion forum, hate when this stupid inane reply gets bandied about. :rolleyes:
The validity and worth of subjects being discussed is part of discussion too.
Ah, the faustian pact. Appear on TV once, take the 30 pieces of gold and forever after you are public property with no right to privacy. Medical details? The public has a right to know. Argument with an idiot stalker in a pub? The public has a right to know. Renting a flat? The public has a right to know if he has a special deal. Wonder how much tax they pay. Who do they phone? When?
only he sings better:D
:eek: He's not that horrible.
Very well said.
Also, I would like to point out, that it takes a confident person to be seen coupled up with a celebrity in public. First there will be the "beard" comments. And then the looks, background and personality of the person going out with a celeb will be torn apart by fans and non-fans. If you dress up too much, you are a media-****, if you choose more laid back style, you are plain or ugly. Sometimes the public can be really unfairly harsh on a person just because they were seen drinking coffee with a celeb.