Who Gets The Bond Film Rights Next?

JEFF62JEFF62 Posts: 5,093
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With Sky losing the rights to show the bond films at the end of this month does anyone know which channel gets them next? All the films except Skyfall are showing an expiry date of 30th September 2013 on the On Demand service and I seem to remember that the deal was for one year. So where will they go next? Surely not back to ITV? Could BBC get them at last? Or could Sky renew the deal at the last minute. Anyone know?
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  • XIVXIV Posts: 21,495
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    I imagine ITV will likely regain terrestrial rights, I imagine it would be too expensive for The BBC, Channel 4 and Channel 5 to obtain. Bond has been shown on ITV since they have started showing them as terrestrial premieres aside from Her Majesty's Secret Service which I believe the BBC showed as a one-off.
  • JEFF62JEFF62 Posts: 5,093
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    In fact every bond film premiered on itv including OHMSS which premiered in September 1978. As far as I remember bbc1 have shown the unofficial film never say never again but that too premiered originally on itv. They did have a one off screening of from Russia with love on bbc2 about four years ago as part of some season.

    If they do go back on itv I can see them making a big deal of it. Bond is back where he belongs or something like that!
  • Irma BuntIrma Bunt Posts: 1,847
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    JEFF62 wrote: »
    In fact every bond film premiered on itv including OHMSS which premiered in September 1978. As far as I remember bbc1 have shown the unofficial film never say never again but that too premiered originally on itv. They did have a one off screening of from Russia with love on bbc2 about four years ago as part of some season.

    If they do go back on itv I can see them making a big deal of it. Bond is back where he belongs or something like that!

    You are correct. The BBC have never shown On Her Majesty's Secret Service. The only official Bond film they have shown is From Russia With Love as a special one-off. The execrable, unoffical Never Say Never Again doesn't count, of course.
  • Eddie BadgerEddie Badger Posts: 6,005
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    ITV will be sharpening their scissors so they can get back to hacking the Bond films to bits as usual.
  • Chasing ShadowsChasing Shadows Posts: 3,096
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    BBC2 have shown the original Casino Royale (the David Niven, non-EON Productions one) several times.
  • -GONZO--GONZO- Posts: 9,624
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    BBC2 have shown the original Casino Royale (the David Niven, non-EON Productions one) several times.

    Which means nowt considering its not part of the 007 franchise.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
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    I expect itv will get them back but it would be nice for them to be on bbc for a change, no adverts!
  • Chasing ShadowsChasing Shadows Posts: 3,096
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    -GONZO- wrote: »
    Which means nowt considering its not part of the 007 franchise.

    It may not be part of the EON productions franchise, but it, like Never Say Never Again, has been part of the exclusive Sky Bond Movies showings, and so will be up for grabs at the end of the month when Sky lose the rights to show it.
  • LathamiteLathamite Posts: 638
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    Happy for them to go back to ITV. I don't particularly like the channel, but they seem to belong there and it's how I discovered the films when I was young.

    And, considering the age of some of these films, they put them in good slots.

    Btw, it's actually quite a novelty to see these films on DVD or BD and see bits you haven't seen, because you grew up with VHS recordings of ITV showings. Hack away, ITV!
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 145
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    Seems daft for Sky to make a big thing of it then lose them. Surely they will want them for when the next film comes out as well.
  • pburke90pburke90 Posts: 14,754
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    I could tolerate them being on ITV again only if the new deal means they get OAR versions of the films and they stop cutting them. Like either of those two will ever happen though!
  • fhs man 2fhs man 2 Posts: 7,591
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    If BBC got the rights you would never see them again BBC hardly ever show movies they just like having the rights and never showing them. OK they might show them once but there will be years between showings.

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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,488
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    fhs man 2 wrote: »
    If BBC got the rights you would never see them again BBC hardly ever show movies they just like having the rights and never showing them.

    Really? It rarely seems there's a week when they aren't showing Cars for some reason...
  • fhs man 2fhs man 2 Posts: 7,591
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    Really? It rarely seems there's a week when they aren't showing Cars for some reason...

    If you look at how many film deals BBC have they have a massive catalogue of films they never show.

    I remember watching Twins on BBC One years ago (around 2005/2006) for the first time but that is now on ITV.

    I doubt Sky will want to re-new the contract the novelty has worn off for them. They won't want them any more.
  • XIVXIV Posts: 21,495
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    Sky will continue with the PayTV rights for Bond but it does not make sense financially for MGM to sell the rights exclusively to one provider when they can make more money selling them individually. I have no doubt that ITV will show Skyfall once they get the rights back.

    Think Bond is one of the few franchises which are sold separately from other film output deals, Star Wars, Potter and Indiana Jones are the others. I wonder if Disney will sell Marvel and the upcoming Star Wars films separate from their other films or bundle them together.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,488
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    Jonwo wrote: »
    Sky will continue with the PayTV rights for Bond but it does not make sense financially for MGM to sell the rights exclusively to one provider when they can make more money selling them individually. I have no doubt that ITV will show Skyfall once they get the rights back.

    Think Bond is one of the few franchises which are sold separately from other film output deals, Star Wars, Potter and Indiana Jones are the others. I wonder if Disney will sell Marvel and the upcoming Star Wars films separate from their other films or bundle them together.

    I would imagine Star Wars and Indiana Jones are only separate because Lucasfilm owns them outright, rather than them being studio owned (before the Disney acquisition of course)
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,488
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    fhs man 2 wrote: »
    If you look at how many film deals BBC have they have a massive catalogue of films they never show.

    I remember watching Twins on BBC One years ago (around 2005/2006) for the first time but that is now on ITV.

    I doubt Sky will want to re-new the contract the novelty has worn off for them. They won't want them any more.

    The BBC have all of BBC Films and DreamWorks Animation. As well as selected titles from Disney, DreamWorks* and indie companies like Sony Pictures Classics and Pathe.

    *They have everything DreamWorks have the rights for, but a lot of DW's catalogue are co-productions for which somebody else has the rights

    A lot of that does get some airing, and even Channel 4 who have a massive library (Fox, Paramount, Studiocanal, Relativity Media, Momentum, Film4, Entertainment One, MGM and selected films from Sony Pictures, Disney and EFD) repeat themselves.
  • James_MonnellyJames_Monnelly Posts: 883
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    It has been refreshing to see the films unspoilt on Sky however there is nothing like a wet bank holiday Monday with Bond being on ITV
  • Dar WDar W Posts: 728
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    Anyone but ITV or Channel 5.The BBC could do a season on BBC2 or BBC4 with the older ones and put the newer ones on BBC1 or 3 and they seem to be showing a lot of films in OAR lately.
    Or a season on Film 4 would be good too
  • fhs man 2fhs man 2 Posts: 7,591
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    Dar W wrote: »
    Anyone but ITV or Channel 5.The BBC could do a season on BBC2 or BBC4 with the older ones and put the newer ones on BBC1 or 3 and they seem to be showing a lot of films in OAR lately.
    Or a season on Film 4 would be good too

    What does that stand for???
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,305
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    fhs man 2 wrote: »
    What does that stand for???

    OAR = Original Aspect Ratio.

    ITV always cropped them from the original aspect ratio to fill a widescreen TV by removing the black borders, essentially chopping out a sizeable chunk of the image on the left and right in the process. Sky on the other hand have been showing them as they were meant to be shown.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,488
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    CJClarke wrote: »
    OAR = Original Aspect Ratio.

    ITV always cropped them from the original aspect ratio to fill a widescreen TV by removing the black borders, essentially chopping out a sizeable chunk of the image on the left and right in the process. Sky on the other hand have been showing them as they were meant to be shown.

    I thought they'd shown the cropped IMAX version of Skyfall?
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,305
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    I thought they'd shown the cropped IMAX version of Skyfall?

    The IMAX version wasnt cropped, it was actually opened up so that more of the image was visible. So technically the 2:35:1 version shown in standard cinemas (and on DVD/Blu Ray) was actually the "cropped" version, although that version is how the film was intended to be seen as the additional picture on the IMAX version was pretty superfluous.
  • Steve9214Steve9214 Posts: 8,402
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    EON now own all the rights to every Bond film, including NSNA and the Original Casino Royale so they control everything Bond.

    Excellent article here on "non bonds"

    http://www.popmatters.com/column/163228-the-non-bonds-james-bonds-bitter-decades-long-battle-with-james-bond/
  • Chasing ShadowsChasing Shadows Posts: 3,096
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    Steve9214 wrote: »
    EON now own all the rights to every Bond film, including NSNA and the Original Casino Royale so they control everything Bond.

    Whilst Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer (who own the rights to all EON movies) also own the rights to distribute both Casino Royale (1967) and Never Say Never Again, and DanJaq LLC (not EON) is one of the copyright owners of Casino Royale, Never Say Never Again is nothing to do with either EON or Danjaq.

    MGM owning the distribution rights to NSNA does not automatically mean that EON Productions (the company owned by Dana and Barbra Brocolli, and Michael Wilson) owns Never Say Never Again. EON and NSNA share the same parent distribution company, but EON don't own everything that MGM distribute.

    EON only own the Bond movies made by Brocolli/Saltzman, then by Brocolli alone, and then by his wife, daughter and step-son. The fact that DanJaq (also originally owned by Brocolli and Saltzman) now owns copyright of the original Casino Royale (whatever that means!) does not change this.

    In the same way that Liverpool Football Club is not owned by the Boston Red Sox (and Boston Red Sox aren't owned by LFC) - they are just two sports teams both owned by Fenway Sports Group.
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