The last three episodes have been good and back on form - I think last night's was the best yet. Hope they keep the standard up now for the final two (And the third series!).
And as someone else pointed out is seems odd for the guardian writer to criticise it as formulaic when the way they describe formulaic could apply to most shows - A happens, then B, then C. And the specific formula they give just seems to describe most detective dramas ever made - especially Poirot - so do they also think all of the Poirot and Marple TV adaptations are formulaic and rubbish?
For me something is formulaic if it involves no thought in constructing new episodes - you just follow the formula. The majority of DiP episodes seem to involve a lot of thought in constructing a tight plot interspersed with humour.
Also, the reviewer doesn't seem to have watched much of DiP, cos he says that there's normally a second murder - from what I can recall there's hardly ever a second murder in DiP, so maybe he's basing all his opinions on watching one episode.
Good episode, not as excellent as last week's, but still good anyway. One sight issue - that e-fit; how did anyone in the police not suspect Neil Pearson's character?! I guess he excused himself or laughed it off at the time, but it was like a monochromed picture of him!
We almost cheered at the end when Richard got to arrest Neil Pearson's character.
I wanted a better send-off line from him though, something along the lines of 'my name may be Dick, but you're the one who's a dickhe... ' ok maybe not!
Good episode, not as excellent as last week's, but still good anyway. One sight issue - that e-fit; how did anyone in the police not suspect Neil Pearson's character?! I guess he excused himself or laughed it off at the time, but it was like a monochromed picture of him!
I think Richard was the only one of Neil Pearson's colleagues who had looked at the information about that case (when he was the only one who didn't get asked out for lunch) - the rest of them didn't bother with it because it was another force's case.
The last three episodes have been good and back on form - I think last night's was the best yet. Hope they keep the standard up now for the final two (And the third series!).
And as someone else pointed out is seems odd for the guardian writer to criticise it as formulaic when the way they describe formulaic could apply to most shows - A happens, then B, then C. And the specific formula they give just seems to describe most detective dramas ever made - especially Poirot - so do they also think all of the Poirot and Marple TV adaptations are formulaic and rubbish?
For me something is formulaic if it involves no thought in constructing new episodes - you just follow the formula. The majority of DiP episodes seem to involve a lot of thought in constructing a tight plot interspersed with humour.
Also, the reviewer doesn't seem to have watched much of DiP, cos he says that there's normally a second murder - from what I can recall there's hardly ever a second murder in DiP, so maybe he's basing all his opinions on watching one episode.
I agree. We watch a lot of murder mystery shows and my wife remarked how well written Death In Paradise is. Considering it's only an hour long, they manage to cram in a lot of intrigue and humour.
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We enjoyed this last episode, but the most puzzling thing for me was why the Carry On Convenience clip at the start was in black and white – maybe to emphasise that it was an old film?
Good episode, not as excellent as last week's, but still good anyway. One sight issue - that e-fit; how did anyone in the police not suspect Neil Pearson's character?! I guess he excused himself or laughed it off at the time, but it was like a monochromed picture of him!
I think the hit and run in England was in a different place (Manchester) to where NP worked as a copper (London) so they probably never even met him. He just went there to kill the chaps wife.
Richard only saw the efit as he heard about the hit and run and asked them to send over the details to see if there was a link - then he saw the efit and joined up the dots.
I think the hit and run in England was in a different place (Manchester) to where NP worked as a copper (London) so they probably never even met him. He just went there to kill the chaps wife.
Richard only saw the efit as he heard about the hit and run and asked them to send over the details to see if there was a link - then he saw the efit and joined up the dots.
Oh, that's right. My other post was wrong, sorry, he didn't look at the info on the hit and run in his lunchbreak at all, it was that other murder case he had looked at.
I’m enjoying this series, but don’t think they’re quite as tight, plot wise, as the first series. The first series seemed to be quite structured, with all the clues and information seemingly available to the viewers and then a clear explanation scene, like most Poirots/Marples. (I remember someone likening it to the old Ellery Queen TV programmes). This series is a little more random (with the exception, possibly, of the one where the party was mining and found Palladium). Still enjoying it, though.
The problem will/might come as they do more and more episodes, and they try to manage the Richard/Camille relationship, and the whole “Richard as a fish out of water” concept. Just how does it move forward. There’s a limit to how many times him being the stereotype up-tight Brit abroad can be funny.
Talking of animals, what's happened to the little lizard? He's hardly featured this season - perhaps the limelight went to his head and he now thinks he's too big for the show Really glad this will be back for a third season.
He wants a pay rise - double the number of flies or he does not appear
And I am really pleased too that there will be a third series. Can't see there will be too much mileage after that - or Ste Marie will become the murder capital of the Caribbean!
I suspect that the Camille and Richard story will be resolved one way or the other and then that will be that.
I am a Guardian reader, by the way, and I really don't understand the columnist who wrote the tosh above about it being rubbish. There is space in one's life for both The Killing and DiP. They are NOT mutually exclusive.
I really like Death In Paradise. Yes maybe this series isnt quite as good as the first one, but this is the only programme currently thats on TV I actually cannot wait to watch!
I think the bit on the nun episode where Camille is obviously disappointed that her date wasn't Richard, and he didn't notice at all was quite funny. He seems rather oblivious to the fact the she seems to quite like him. Although maybe from what that horrid detective said about him in Tuesday's episode, I'm guessing he wouldn't ever think that someone like Camille would like him.
Enjoyed that one, and it's always lovely to see Hannah Spearritt
Really enjoyed seeing Ben, Hannah and Jamie (though he was almost unrecognizable!) back together, does anyone know if she and Andrew Lee Potts are still together, last I heard they were getting married in real life?
As I've said before, the rumour I heard was that the original lizard demanded a bigger dressing room and was fired. There's a new lizard in this series but he doesn't feature as much cos the producers don't want to get sackfuls of letters complaining about the new guy
Type in www.Bing.com/images/search? Then "lizards on a couch", on the Bing search, and all will be revealed!
I agree. We watch a lot of murder mystery shows and my wife remarked how well written Death In Paradise is. Considering it's only an hour long, they manage to cram in a lot of intrigue and humour.
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We enjoyed this last episode, but the most puzzling thing for me was why the Carry On Convenience clip at the start was in black and white – maybe to emphasise that it was an old film?
Don't know, I remember it in colour, maybe it was a black and white TV?
One plot hole here. A right-handed person will be used to holding and using a phone in their *left* hand as often they will be wanting to use their right hand to make notes. I know I do after using my right hand to "dial".
As once pointed out by Sgt Carter in The Sweeney. After three and a half decades, I do not recall why (or even if) it mattered.
One plot hole here. A right-handed person will be used to holding and using a phone in their *left* hand as often they will be wanting to use their right hand to make notes. I know I do after using my right hand to "dial".
We enjoyed this last episode, but the most puzzling thing for me was why the Carry On Convenience clip at the start was in black and white – maybe to emphasise that it was an old film?
In some territories only Black and White prints for films and television shows may have been supplied by the distributors. It is possible that 'Television Sainte-Marie', which one must assume is a bit of a bargain-basement TV network, only have a cheaper monochrome copy of the film because the cost of acquiring a colour print was too much.
He wants a pay rise - double the number of flies or he does not appear
And I am really pleased too that there will be a third series. Can't see there will be too much mileage after that - or Ste Marie will become the murder capital of the Caribbean!
I suspect that the Camille and Richard story will be resolved one way or the other and then that will be that.
I am a Guardian reader, by the way, and I really don't understand the columnist who wrote the tosh above about it being rubbish. There is space in one's life for both The Killing and DiP. They are NOT mutually exclusive.
Totally agree! There are so many snobs in the arts world though - particularly in the Guardian I find!!
Episodes are so formulaic, it's almost funny. There's a murder. DI Poole investigates and narrows it down to a handful of potential killers. There's usually another murder. Then Poole has a lightbulb moment, gathers all the suspects in one room and gives a Poirot-esque speech explaining everything. This is undemanding drama for the hard-of-thinking or only-half-watching. See also the copious recaps and clunky exposition that litter the script, just in case anyone nodded off and missed a bit. Which would be understandable. It makes Midsomer Murders look like 24.
You've got to admit - he's got a point...
You've missed out all the things that make this such a great little programme - the characterisation, the interplay of the characters, the humour, the clever scripts, the excellent acting, the scenery (which would include Camille or Richard, according to taste ), in fact everything I watch programmes for!
He wants a pay rise - double the number of flies or he does not appear
And I am really pleased too that there will be a third series. Can't see there will be too much mileage after that - or Ste Marie will become the murder capital of the Caribbean!
I suspect that the Camille and Richard story will be resolved one way or the other and then that will be that.
I am a Guardian reader, by the way, and I really don't understand the columnist who wrote the tosh above about it being rubbish. There is space in one's life for both The Killing and DiP. They are NOT mutually exclusive.[/QUOTE]
Another one here..I have read the Guardian at times in my life..tends to be the "i" I pick up these impoverished days .But why can't I enjoy Scandrama,Spiral,DiP,Ripper Street and Mentalbaldie?I like my crime in many a background!
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And as someone else pointed out is seems odd for the guardian writer to criticise it as formulaic when the way they describe formulaic could apply to most shows - A happens, then B, then C. And the specific formula they give just seems to describe most detective dramas ever made - especially Poirot - so do they also think all of the Poirot and Marple TV adaptations are formulaic and rubbish?
For me something is formulaic if it involves no thought in constructing new episodes - you just follow the formula. The majority of DiP episodes seem to involve a lot of thought in constructing a tight plot interspersed with humour.
Also, the reviewer doesn't seem to have watched much of DiP, cos he says that there's normally a second murder - from what I can recall there's hardly ever a second murder in DiP, so maybe he's basing all his opinions on watching one episode.
I wanted a better send-off line from him though, something along the lines of 'my name may be Dick, but you're the one who's a dickhe... ' ok maybe not!
I think murder is the unlawful killing of a human being, not animals.
I think Richard was the only one of Neil Pearson's colleagues who had looked at the information about that case (when he was the only one who didn't get asked out for lunch) - the rest of them didn't bother with it because it was another force's case.
she not on TV enough, she very cute!
I agree. We watch a lot of murder mystery shows and my wife remarked how well written Death In Paradise is. Considering it's only an hour long, they manage to cram in a lot of intrigue and humour.
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We enjoyed this last episode, but the most puzzling thing for me was why the Carry On Convenience clip at the start was in black and white – maybe to emphasise that it was an old film?
I think the hit and run in England was in a different place (Manchester) to where NP worked as a copper (London) so they probably never even met him. He just went there to kill the chaps wife.
Richard only saw the efit as he heard about the hit and run and asked them to send over the details to see if there was a link - then he saw the efit and joined up the dots.
Oh, that's right. My other post was wrong, sorry, he didn't look at the info on the hit and run in his lunchbreak at all, it was that other murder case he had looked at.
The problem will/might come as they do more and more episodes, and they try to manage the Richard/Camille relationship, and the whole “Richard as a fish out of water” concept. Just how does it move forward. There’s a limit to how many times him being the stereotype up-tight Brit abroad can be funny.
He wants a pay rise - double the number of flies or he does not appear
And I am really pleased too that there will be a third series. Can't see there will be too much mileage after that - or Ste Marie will become the murder capital of the Caribbean!
I suspect that the Camille and Richard story will be resolved one way or the other and then that will be that.
I am a Guardian reader, by the way, and I really don't understand the columnist who wrote the tosh above about it being rubbish. There is space in one's life for both The Killing and DiP. They are NOT mutually exclusive.
I think the bit on the nun episode where Camille is obviously disappointed that her date wasn't Richard, and he didn't notice at all was quite funny. He seems rather oblivious to the fact the she seems to quite like him. Although maybe from what that horrid detective said about him in Tuesday's episode, I'm guessing he wouldn't ever think that someone like Camille would like him.
Which catch up system? It's on iPlayer PC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01qrspp/hd/Death_in_Paradise_Series_2_Episode_6/
The one on sky.
Really enjoyed seeing Ben, Hannah and Jamie (though he was almost unrecognizable!) back together, does anyone know if she and Andrew Lee Potts are still together, last I heard they were getting married in real life?
Type in www.Bing.com/images/search? Then "lizards on a couch", on the Bing search, and all will be revealed!
Don't know, I remember it in colour, maybe it was a black and white TV?
As once pointed out by Sgt Carter in The Sweeney. After three and a half decades, I do not recall why (or even if) it mattered.
The victim was left handed.
In some territories only Black and White prints for films and television shows may have been supplied by the distributors. It is possible that 'Television Sainte-Marie', which one must assume is a bit of a bargain-basement TV network, only have a cheaper monochrome copy of the film because the cost of acquiring a colour print was too much.
You've missed out all the things that make this such a great little programme - the characterisation, the interplay of the characters, the humour, the clever scripts, the excellent acting, the scenery (which would include Camille or Richard, according to taste ), in fact everything I watch programmes for!
It ain't what you do it's the way that you do it!