Hollyoaks general discussion (Part 10)

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  • TheMunchTheMunch Posts: 9,024
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    D4nny22 wrote: »
    You've completely forgot Doug, Will, Dirk, Scott and Barney. Oooh and Tom and Charlie:p

    I think Dirk is tied to Myra. I don't think they're an official couple but they act a bit like they're a couple.
  • cfc86cfc86 Posts: 31,809
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    The only non bitchy females we have are Lynsey, Tilly and Esther. The rest started as bitches or are still that way.
    I've probably forgot some people but the 3 mentioned were from the top of my head.
  • PlantPlant Posts: 11,820
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    Maddie is just a joke because she looks about 30. I think there must be a storyline coming up about how she's actually an imposter. She's the real Maddie's aunt looking to regain her lost youth. Real Maddie is locked in a cupboard somewhere.
  • avon942avon942 Posts: 18,831
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    cfc86 wrote: »
    The only non bitchy females we have are Lynsey, Tilly and Esther. The rest started as bitches or are still that way.
    I've probably forgot some people but the 3 mentioned were from the top of my head.

    Ash, annalise arnt' or weren't bitches I don't think!
    Also didn't maddie save sinead life when she nearly drowned??
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 698
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    Plant wrote: »
    Real Maddie is locked in a cupboard somewhere.

    maybe this one would have more dimensions to her.. that'd be a storyline I'd be interested in watching lol
  • rocketsaladrocketsalad Posts: 1,073
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    cfc86 wrote: »
    The only non bitchy females we have are Lynsey, Tilly and Esther. The rest started as bitches or are still that way.
    I've probably forgot some people but the 3 mentioned were from the top of my head.

    I think it's a little harsh and degrading to say that all but three of the female characters on the show started out as bitches. Carmel for one, has never been particularly bitchy and Sinead actually started out as a character who wasn't a she-beast
  • cyrilandshirleycyrilandshirley Posts: 48,569
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    I am very very tempted here to say something along the lines of I wish Maddie had left Sinead to drown. Or that they had both drowned.

    But I won't.
    ;)
  • cfc86cfc86 Posts: 31,809
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    avon942 wrote: »
    Ash, annalise arnt' or weren't bitches I don't think!
    Also didn't maddie save sinead life when she nearly drowned??

    I think Annalise kind of was but that could've been more stuck up to begin with but I still liked her.
    Can't remember with Sinead and Maddie but you could be right.
    I think it's a little harsh and degrading to say that all but three of the female characters on the show started out as bitches. Carmel for one, has never been particularly bitchy and Sinead actually started out as a character who wasn't a she-beast

    As I said the 3 mentioned were from the top of my head. I didn't say all of the women have.
  • avon942avon942 Posts: 18,831
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    cfc86 wrote: »
    I think Annalise kind of was but that could've been more stuck up to begin with but I still liked her.
    Can't remember with Sinead and Maddie but you could be right.



    As I said the 3 mentioned were from the top of my head. I didn't say all of the women have.

    Yeah I think Annalise was more uptight than outright bitchy!
  • Ready Steady GoReady Steady Go Posts: 39,592
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    avon942 wrote: »
    Also didn't maddie save sinead life when she nearly drowned??
    True, but Maddie did stir the pot a lot between Bart and Sinead in the first place, which from what I can remember led Sinead to nearly drown.
    And you'd have to be pretty evil to run away from someone drowning in the sea!

    Sorry, I don't mean to attack your favourite character, but she's done so many bitchy things, it's hard for people to like her.
  • avon942avon942 Posts: 18,831
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    True, but Maddie did stir the pot a lot between Bart and Sinead in the first place, which from what I can remember led Sinead to nearly drown.
    And you'd have to be pretty evil to run away from someone drowning in the sea!

    Sorry, I don't mean to attack your favourite character, but she's done so many bitchy things, it's hard for people to like her.

    Well from what I've seen/read people where making out to be pretty evil, vile etc so I thought Id bring that up to show she at least had a heart!
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 698
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    I am very very tempted here to say something along the lines of I wish Maddie had left Sinead to drown. Or that they had both drowned.

    But I won't.
    ;)

    :D:D:D
  • ReoReo Posts: 8,638
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    I am very very tempted here to say something along the lines of I wish Maddie had left Sinead to drown. Or that they had both drowned.

    But I won't.
    ;)

    I will. I wish both Maddie and Sinead drowned! :p

    The actress that plays Sinead is good, but her character is terrible, such a waste of a potentially good character that can probably not be redeemed. The actress that plays Maddie was miscast and is horrible at trying to play a 16 year old, she may have been better as a snobby fresher and her character is absolutely vile and I don't see any sob story saving her.

    The difference between Maddie and the boys is that the boys don't care and will laugh and make fun without problem. Maddie is sneaky and smart, she will hide her nasty manipulative side so she doesn't lose her friends and become the bad guy, when clearly she is a right bitch.
  • Ready Steady GoReady Steady Go Posts: 39,592
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    avon942 wrote: »
    Well from what I've seen/read people where making out to be pretty evil, vile etc so I thought Id bring that up to show she at least had a heart!
    I do think she has a heart, it's just hidden sometimes! I don't think she's completely ruined now, but it'll take some doing for people to ever like her again.
  • Vanessa73Vanessa73 Posts: 7,330
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    Reo wrote: »
    I will. I wish both Maddie and Sinead drowned! :p

    The actress that plays Sinead is good, but her character is terrible, such a waste of a potentially good character that can probably not be redeemed. The actress that plays Maddie was miscast and is horrible at trying to play a 16 year old, she may have been better as a snobby fresher and her character is absolutely vile and I don't see any sob story saving her.

    The difference between Maddie and the boys is that the boys don't care and will laugh and make fun without problem. Maddie is sneaky and smart, she will hide her nasty manipulative side so she doesn't lose her friends and become the bad guy, when clearly she is a right bitch.

    I agree. I hate Maddie! :mad: But then i also didn't like Steph at the beginning. So maybe she'll grow on me! :p
  • Ready Steady GoReady Steady Go Posts: 39,592
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    Reo wrote: »
    The actress that plays Sinead is good, but her character is terrible, such a waste of a potentially good character that can probably not be redeemed. The actress that plays Maddie was miscast and is horrible at trying to play a 16 year old, she may have been better as a snobby fresher and her character is absolutely vile and I don't see any sob story saving her.

    The difference between Maddie and the boys is that the boys don't care and will laugh and make fun without problem. Maddie is sneaky and smart, she will hide her nasty manipulative side so she doesn't lose her friends and become the bad guy, when clearly she is a right bitch.
    Exactly, Steph Davis is actually a perfectly capable actress. It's a shame she's being wasted on this.

    I agree about Maddie vs the boys. At least the boys are obvious in their jerky ways. Maddie uses a lot of underhand tactics.
  • avon942avon942 Posts: 18,831
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    I do think she has a heart, it's just hidden sometimes! I don't think she's completely ruined now, but it'll take some doing for people to ever like her again.

    Fair enough!:)
  • vkmaxvkmax Posts: 3,093
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    Sinead was a victim of PM's departure. The whole O'Connor family were. He had bigplans for all of them then Diane stopped being a crazy baby snatcher (infact she stopped talking about kids all together), Sineads story with her Mum was cut well short and she went from being a friendly family girl with a bit of tragedy to a nasty bitch.

    Still, I never got why for her first 2 months she hung out with 12 year old Amber andnever the other 15 year olds.

    Infact whilst I feel PM's removal was the right decision (I have a feeling last year would've been very very OTT and sensationalist with him still there) alot of characters suffered Warren,Mandy, Tony, Leanne, Lee, The O'Connors, Heidi....Paul obviously wanted to use them properly and never got too. Having said that Brendan was alot more sinister under him and I think he'd have to have been gone by now if he'd carried on the way he was in 2010.
  • Ready Steady GoReady Steady Go Posts: 39,592
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    She was definitely more likeable in PM's time. She seemed to really care about her family, and know they don't exist.

    Her hanging around with Amber seems even more strange now, considering how her and all her friends seem embarrassed with being with Ruby, who's only in the year below!
    vkmax wrote: »
    Having said that Brendan was alot more sinister under him and I think he'd have to have been gone by now if he'd carried on the way he was in 2010.
    I'm not sure, I think PM had a definite plan for Brendan. He was already starting to soften a bit. It's hard to know what would have happened, though.
  • Sifter22Sifter22 Posts: 12,053
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    Don't get why people compare Steph to Maddie. Nothing alike in my opinion, Steph was at least a bitch with some charm. Maddie just look too old and you can't really take her seriously as a teen.
  • vkmaxvkmax Posts: 3,093
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    Sifter22 wrote: »
    Don't get why people compare Steph to Maddie. Nothing alike in my opinion, Steph was at least a bitch with some charm. Maddie just look too old and you can't really take her seriously as a teen.

    Maddie is a spiteful girl but Steph was much worse in her day. She was horrible. She didn't do things to manipulate them to her liking like Maddie did she set out regularly to actively hurt people she called friends.
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    vkmax wrote: »
    Maddie is a spiteful girl but Steph was much worse in her day. She was horrible. She didn't do things to manipulate them to her liking like Maddie did she set out regularly to actively hurt people she called friends.

    I remember bits of it, but I always quite fancied Steph so maybe I'm a little biased :p

    But I dunno, Steph had her whole clan introduced after a while. These teens (apart from Callum) don't seem to have families and just magically appear in certain places.
  • fairyfruitcakefairyfruitcake Posts: 1,467
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    Sifter22 wrote: »
    Don't get why people compare Steph to Maddie. Nothing alike in my opinion, Steph was at least a bitch with some charm. Maddie just look too old and you can't really take her seriously as a teen.

    I think one of the main differences is that Carly is a passable actress although arguably a better musical theatre performer than straight actress, whereas Scarlett is not good at all. If she's going to stay any longer then I hope they send her for some voice classes to improve her diction. It would be nice to at least be able to hear her dialogue even if not convinced by it
  • StarryNightStarryNight Posts: 7,289
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    vkmax wrote: »
    Maddie is a spiteful girl but Steph was much worse in her day. She was horrible. She didn't do things to manipulate them to her liking like Maddie did she set out regularly to actively hurt people she called friends.

    Yeah Steph was truly horrible half the time, I remember how pleased she was to be caught sleeping with her friends boyfriend. She was not a nice character. I'm finding the constant Maddie bashing really boring and highly ironic tbh so i'm not even going to comment on that but i'm vaguely offended that people keep saying a 25 year old girl looks old - I know some people are simply pointing out she doesn't look 17, which is fair enough, but she does not look old.
  • RiDsTeRRiDsTeR Posts: 12,226
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    I reckon this time next year we will all love Maddie. It's what Hollyoaks does best. Characters are normally hated for some reason whenever they are introduced.

    Brendan, Mitzeee, George, India, Texas, Dodger etc ...
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