Anyone have the BBC3 figures for the well established and popular EastEnders repeat? Be interesting to see if EE won on aggregate. Will have been close.
[Edit: just seen the figures. Congratulations to EE on being most watched show this Christmas Day. Just!]
Anyone have the BBC3 figures for the well established and popular EastEnders repeat? Be interesting to see if EE won on aggregate. Will have been close.
Including them, EE wins. Excluding them, Downton wins. (see above)
I'm not surprised Hacks flopped. One of those Channel 4 comedies that ever so smug and pleased-with-itself.
The report on the Daily Mail website on Alesha Dixon leaving Strictly makes no mention whatsoever of BGT.
And, as yet, no Daily Mail report on the official Christmas Day ratings. Despite the fact it's exactly the sort of programme that appeals to the average Daily Mail reader, the paper now hates Downton Abbey with a passion because, like all tabloid journalists, they're bitter and twisted people who despise any success other than their own.
Ah, but the EE repeat on BBC3 finished at 5 minutes past midnight which is technically Boxing Day.
Which would pull down the average, let us all agree EE on BBC3 got 1million up to the Xmas Day midnight cut-off, EastEnders wins Christmas Day twice!!! both Overnights and +1/+2/+3 etc....:D
Overnights are dying. A series of huge timeshifts there. I can't think of any examples of where they've been this misleading before.
Well done to Downton Abbey and ITV. The ratings story of 2011 but we only find out about it two days into 2012!
I Don't think you can say they are dying. there are hundreds of digital channels now but to have over 17m watching on the two main channels is pretty impressive to me.
968k (5.2%) is BBC3's official rating for EE's repeat.
Hmmm. Excluding +1/+2/+3's Downton is most watched, including it, EastEnders is. Contentious.
Funny how it's kind of the opposite of the most watched programme of 2011 "problem", with +1 etc X Factor wins (if the BBC News is ignored which it shouldn't be) without +1 The Royal Wedding wins. I'd imagine ITV will spin so they top both, as many won't see the hypocrisy.
Also hilarious that ITV and the media's obsession with outdated and increasingly irrelevant overnights means that only ratings nerds will likely ever find out about DA's narrow unaggregated win; the press reported EE's victory on the 27th so the story is now dead - until next xmas when the media go back to their old.reports and trot out the overnights again.
Just to note some good time shifts for Who (as we've come to expect), Ab Fab, and most especially Michael McIntyre. Thats an 8m official for a show that finished at 11.35 - and less than half a million behind Strictly! They can't fail to bring him back next year with those sort of numbers.
Awaits the 'BBC Three doesn't count' arguements to fill most of 2012 discussions whenever Downton is mentioned
Here's my view:
It's hard to argue much with the statement that 'EastEnders was the most watched programme overall on Christmas Day' taking into account all showings.
However, we wouldn't normally take other showings into account so why should we here? The significant development is that the premiere of Downton Abbey's Christmas Special had more viewers than everything on BBC One. And, channel preferences to one side, that is remarkable.
I Don't think you can say they are dying. there are hundreds of digital channels now but to have over 17m watching on the two main channels is pretty impressive to me.
Yes you are correct, it was obvious the DA timeshift was going to be a good 2m+ based on previous episodes - those 12 million regular viewers were going to watch it eventually. I would like to see just one evening of raw data of live viewings (and +1)... just to see how many people actually watch a show as it is broadcast.
Ah, but the EE repeat on BBC3 finished at 5 minutes past midnight which is technically Boxing Day.
In the TV world Boxing Day didn't end until 2am.
it's like New Year Live jumping into the top 20 highest rated programmes list for 2011 even though most of the programme was in 2012. New Year's Eve, in TV land, didn't end until 2am.
Some mighty timeshifts in there, especially Downton's 3.47m :eek:!
:eek: at the timeshift for DA. Is that the biggest timeshift ever?? I don't think anyone predicted it would top EE (excluding +1 and BBC3 repeat) so that is a real achievement. The bad news for ITV is that this probably won't be reported anywhere and not many people will know the whole story of Christmas Day. Michael McIntyre's final rating is excellent too (and thoroughly deserved IMO). It was a great show. Corrie was also ahead of it's Xmas Day 2010 episode too which seemed like something that wouldn't have happened coming off the back of the 50th Anniversary that year. It had 10.40m in 2010 vs. 10.51m (inc. +1: 10.82m) in 2011.
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The biggest timeshift ever I presume at over 3 million?
Let's just say both programmes did exceptionally well.:D
What are you talking about?
Doesn't this just prove my point?
Anyone have the BBC3 figures for the well established and popular EastEnders repeat? Be interesting to see if EE won on aggregate. Will have been close.
[Edit: just seen the figures. Congratulations to EE on being most watched show this Christmas Day. Just!]
Including them, EE wins. Excluding them, Downton wins. (see above)
But given ITV's obsession with +1s they can hardly not now aggregate both EE and DA. So by their own preferred measure, EE won Christmas Day.
Cheers for that, 1 pt in the RPG
EE wasn't on a +1 channel though.
Absolutely stunning timeshift for Downton, and lots of excellent timeshifts for other shows too.
The report on the Daily Mail website on Alesha Dixon leaving Strictly makes no mention whatsoever of BGT.
And, as yet, no Daily Mail report on the official Christmas Day ratings. Despite the fact it's exactly the sort of programme that appeals to the average Daily Mail reader, the paper now hates Downton Abbey with a passion because, like all tabloid journalists, they're bitter and twisted people who despise any success other than their own.
BBC 3 being treated as a repeat /+1 is subjective, but not without merit.
Which would pull down the average, let us all agree EE on BBC3 got 1million up to the Xmas Day midnight cut-off, EastEnders wins Christmas Day twice!!! both Overnights and +1/+2/+3 etc....:D
I Don't think you can say they are dying. there are hundreds of digital channels now but to have over 17m watching on the two main channels is pretty impressive to me.
Funny how it's kind of the opposite of the most watched programme of 2011 "problem", with +1 etc X Factor wins (if the BBC News is ignored which it shouldn't be) without +1 The Royal Wedding wins. I'd imagine ITV will spin so they top both, as many won't see the hypocrisy.
Poor ITV, poor Julian...
I'm not sure it's ITV's obsession!
Stunning timeshift for DA whether it won or not.
This has been my view for a while.
If we include +1 we need to include other same day repeats.
It's hard to argue much with the statement that 'EastEnders was the most watched programme overall on Christmas Day' taking into account all showings.
However, we wouldn't normally take other showings into account so why should we here? The significant development is that the premiere of Downton Abbey's Christmas Special had more viewers than everything on BBC One. And, channel preferences to one side, that is remarkable.
Yes you are correct, it was obvious the DA timeshift was going to be a good 2m+ based on previous episodes - those 12 million regular viewers were going to watch it eventually. I would like to see just one evening of raw data of live viewings (and +1)... just to see how many people actually watch a show as it is broadcast.
In the TV world Boxing Day didn't end until 2am.
it's like New Year Live jumping into the top 20 highest rated programmes list for 2011 even though most of the programme was in 2012. New Year's Eve, in TV land, didn't end until 2am.
Xmas Day ends at 05.59am like all others in telly terms.
:eek: at the timeshift for DA. Is that the biggest timeshift ever?? I don't think anyone predicted it would top EE (excluding +1 and BBC3 repeat) so that is a real achievement. The bad news for ITV is that this probably won't be reported anywhere and not many people will know the whole story of Christmas Day. Michael McIntyre's final rating is excellent too (and thoroughly deserved IMO). It was a great show. Corrie was also ahead of it's Xmas Day 2010 episode too which seemed like something that wouldn't have happened coming off the back of the 50th Anniversary that year. It had 10.40m in 2010 vs. 10.51m (inc. +1: 10.82m) in 2011.
Now that is close!!