I agree but do those films really exist on the market? I thought they were all banned. They would serve as good evidence if the police ever got a copy.
There are films available in the UK that show real animal killings , such as Cannibal Holocaust.
I wasn't referring to snuff movies ( no proof any exist) but those films as described in my other post.
Genuine death footage ( not murder) such as Traces of Death is very hard to watch and although available in the US a planned UK release of Volume 1 was banned by the BBFC.
But they did allow Executions to be released .
As with the porn pretending to be sex education Executions could be seen as sensationalist death footage pretending to be educational about the death penalty.
While I would have viewed it in the 80's ( if it has been out) purely for its shock value today it does standup as a good advert for banning the death penalty so it serves its purpose.
Although some of the crimes committed these days fully deserve the suffering that seems to be part of certain forms of execution
Easy answer for me... Lucker the necropophagus. I am 30 I have been watching uncut horror films since age 8. Never before or since in 22 years have I seen a film that made me literally throw up for those who have not seen it I refer to a scene where the killer keeps a victim decomposing on his bed for weeks then in graphic on screen detail partakes of oral & physical sex with the corpse. The make up is so alike a genuine decomposing corpse I vomited & would never EVER watch that film again!
I really don't know why I am reading this thread because I loath horror films, any sort of gore and I am off.
It does shock me that you have been watching these sort of films from the age of 8. I don't know if that is the norm nowadays but my grandkids are 9 and 11 and have never watched a horror film in their lives..
I really don't know why I am reading this thread because I loath horror films, any sort of gore and I am off.
It does shock me that you have been watching these sort of films from the age of 8. I don't know if that is the norm nowadays but my grandkids are 9 and 11 and have never watched a horror film in their lives..
Mine didn't either..now 17 and 18 the older boys..my 5 year old loves anything spooky though..first ride on ny funfair is the ghost train,walk through spooky house etc..stood outside the really scary one at Blackpool pleasurebeach with real people inside scaring you and wanted to go in..lol..met some of the characters outside and thought they were cool and they were very,very scary.(I didn't let him go in by the way!!!).I do keep it all age appropriate but he loves Scooby doo,casper the ghost,little vampire..anything remotely spooky,haunting and a bit scary..men in black,gremlins,ghostbusters..so I can see that progressing in the coming years to spookier and scarier..think you either enjoy horror or not and he adores all the villians in every story..so will probably be looking at these threads in another 10 years picking out films to watch..funny enough he isn't a nasty boy with it..he is very gentle and kind..so I m not concerned I have a serial killer on my hands x
Mine didn't either..now 17 and 18 the older boys..my 5 year old loves anything spooky though..first ride on ny funfair is the ghost train,walk through spooky house etc..stood outside the really scary one at Blackpool pleasurebeach with real people inside scaring you and wanted to go in..lol..met some of the characters outside and thought they were cool and they were very,very scary.(I didn't let him go in by the way!!!).I do keep it all age appropriate but he loves Scooby doo,casper the ghost,little vampire..anything remotely spooky,haunting and a bit scary..men in black,gremlins,ghostbusters..so I can see that progressing in the coming years to spookier and scarier..think you either enjoy horror or not and he adores all the villians in every story..so will probably be looking at these threads in another 10 years picking out films to watch..funny enough he isn't a nasty boy with it..he is very gentle and kind..so I m not concerned I have a serial killer on my hands x
My Grandkids love 'spooky' things too and they know about Dracula and Frankenstein but what they are allowed to watch is all age appropriate and is very different from watching some of the real nasty stuff that it out there.
I hope they keep their innocence for a little while longer..:):)
My Grandkids love 'spooky' things too and they know about Dracula and Frankenstein but what they are allowed to watch is all age appropriate and is very different from watching some of the real nasty stuff that it out there.
I hope they keep their innocence for a little while longer..:):)
Definitely..Ghostbusters and Scooby Doo it is for a while longer
To be honest, (maybe it's just me) But I didn't find The Human Centipede disturbing at all:o
Yes, the concept is disturbing, but when you watch it, it's not at all close up graphic or anything like that.. I wasn't gagging at it or anything haha! And the sh*tting in the mouth wasn't exactly graphic either, you were just aware it was happening. Maybe that's just my opinion though haha!
I love The Human Centipede although I haven't seen the second one! No, it's not at all gory there's hardly any blood, and you never see any faeces on screen. I hate idea of surgery and hospitals at the best of times, so that's why I probably thought it was great modern horror film. It's a very original modern horror story and there's not a lot of them. Sometimes modern horror films use too much CGI which I think ruins it (eg: Drag Me To Hell). The 80's horror films couldn't rely on CGI, but just told great stories instead.
Far more gorier than the Saw or Hostel films is the original 1987 Day Of The Dead. I can't understand that the censors banned films like The Burning and The Evil Dead but passed this zombie flick whereby zombies are ripping apart live humans and munching into their intestines. First time I saw it literally almost made me want to puke!
Cannibal Holocaust. (Disgusting in every way possible)
Agreed, it should never have been allowed to be released due to the animal killings and torture.
I can handle anything that involves gore.. I just can't stomach animals suffering or being tortured.
I also agree. I'm against censors telling me what I can and cannot watch but deliberately harming/killing animals for cheap foreign C grade movies is not right and should not be allowed. Animal cruelty is against the law in this and many other countries, so why allow a (probably, I refuse to watch it :mad:) crappy film so an egotistical smug director can line their pockets? They didn't have to harm any animal in real life, plenty of films/TV depict simulated animal cruelty. It's probably a poor rip of George Romero's zombie flicks anyway.
I find the Murphy killing scene from Robocop quite hard to watch partly due to how gruesome it is but mainly for the total lack of care/remorse the villains show. They enjoy it like it's something normal.
I'm not knocking the film/scene or anything and in fact I am praising it due to how hard it is to watch due to the good acting/SFX.
Also the line where bob says 'lose the arm' always makes me feel sick due to how heartless it is.
I actually liked watching films like Saw and all that but now I can't stand them. I saw a film called The Loved Ones a while back and parts of that made me think enough of this sort of crap.
The scene where the girl drills into the guys skull made me wince and the sound of the skull/drill bit scraping against each other made my skin crawl/tingle.
I stay away from torture porn horror now. I think it's gotten to a point of being just ridiculous (not that is was that sane to being with ).
I find the Murphy killing scene from Robocop quite hard to watch partly due to how gruesome it is but mainly for the total lack of care/remorse the villains show. They enjoy it like it's something normal.
I'm not knocking the film/scene or anything and in fact I am praising it due to how hard it is to watch due to the good acting/SFX.
Also the line where bob says 'lose the arm' always makes me feel sick due to how heartless it is.
I actually liked watching films like Saw and all that but now I can't stand them. I saw a film called The Loved Ones a while back and parts of that made me think enough of this sort of crap.
The scene where the girl drills into the guys skull made me wince and the sound of the skull/drill bit scraping against each other made my skin crawl/tingle.
I stay away from torture porn horror now. I think it's gotten to a point of being just ridiculous (not that is was that sane to being with ).
have you seen the Saw films or Hostel fims..there good
Far more gorier than the Saw or Hostel films is the original 1987 Day Of The Dead. I can't understand that the censors banned films like The Burning and The Evil Dead but passed this zombie flick whereby zombies are ripping apart live humans and munching into their intestines. First time I saw it literally almost made me want to puke!
Neither The Burning nor The Evil Dead were banned by the BBFC.
Both got 18 certificates . The Burning had a very brief shot of shears cutting off some fingers censored and the video was withdrawn and replaced by the BBFC version when Thorn EMI issued the uncut version by mistake.
The Evil Dead was released with an 18 in 1981 although the BBFC snipped nearly a minute out of it.
The Evil Dead videos that got prosecuted were actually the BBFC 18 versions - which shows how stupid the video nasties era was.
But the original Day of the Dead is not very gory really.
Not much happens at all until near the end when everyone starts dying and the BBFC did snip a bit out of it .
Fans of Dawn of the Dead were mightily disappointed with Day when it first came out although I'm not sure if Romeros slashed budget would have also affected the gore quotient as much as it did the rest of the film.
I also agree. I'm against censors telling me what I can and cannot watch but deliberately harming/killing animals for cheap foreign C grade movies is not right and should not be allowed. Animal cruelty is against the law in this and many other countries, so why allow a (probably, I refuse to watch it :mad:) crappy film so an egotistical smug director can line their pockets? They didn't have to harm any animal in real life, plenty of films/TV depict simulated animal cruelty.
Genuine animal cruelty is now banned in the countries that allowed it in the video nasties era although I'm not sure it was really allowed because at the time of its production the Cannibal Holocaust director was threatened with legal action.
He reckons the real animal killings were a pre-requisite for cannibal movies at the time which seems to be true and few of those films had a budget to create realistic effects.
It was the real animal killings that gave the films their edge .
It was because they were real that people actually believed people had also been killed in Cannibal Holocaust.
But the past is the past and I can see no sensible reason why the BBFC should cut horsefalls from 50 year old westerns .
It doesn't happen today so cutting it from films when it did happen is stupid .
BBFC reasoning for letting most of the killings in Cannibal Holocaust through is feeble .
They say its because they were clean kills .
I challenge anyone to watch the turtle killing in CH and work out how the BBFC can jjustify editing horsefalls out
I couldn't watch any of the films mentioned above. Far too squeamish. Maybe the first Human Centipede as I've heard the violence is understated.
Mind you one of my favourite films is Battle Royale which has kids killing each other often very violently. But the character development and morality issues raised means I hardly notice the bloodshed.
have you seen the Saw films or Hostel fims..there good
LOL don't even get me started on Hostel! Terrible films (as in crap).
One thing I like about saw was how each film continued from the previous movie and so at times it was like watching one (very) long film.
The opening scene from Goodfellas (as well as the beating later on) is really gruesome. Especially when you see the blood squirting about while the guy gets his head kicked in.
Audition is quite shocking I guess but that's probably due to the 'Kiri Kiri Kiri' bit. Great movie though. :cool:
Ichi the Killer is disgusting at times movie but weirdly I quite like it. :D
The scene at the beginning where the girl is being beaten then raped and Ichi saves her only for him to say to the girl he will take the rapists place is a real WTF moment but at the same time a nice change as you aren't really expecting him to say that.
Neither The Burning nor The Evil Dead were banned by the BBFC.
Both got 18 certificates . The Burning had a very brief shot of shears cutting off some fingers censored and the video was withdrawn and replaced by the BBFC version when Thorn EMI issued the uncut version by mistake.
The Evil Dead was released with an 18 in 1981 although the BBFC snipped nearly a minute out of it.
The Evil Dead videos that got prosecuted were actually the BBFC 18 versions - which shows how stupid the video nasties era was.
But the original Day of the Dead is not very gory really.
Not much happens at all until near the end when everyone starts dying and the BBFC did snip a bit out of it .
Fans of Dawn of the Dead were mightily disappointed with Day when it first came out although I'm not sure if Romeros slashed budget would have also affected the gore quotient as much as it did the rest of the film.
Day Of The Dead is actually my favourite Romero zombie film and my favourite ever horror film, not because I find the ending gory. I've got it on DVD and I don't think anything has been cut from it, it's extreme enough! I've also got The Burning and The Hills Have Eyes which are all now uncut versions. I also bought a copy of The Last House On The Left just before the BBFC finally allowed it to be released uncensored.
Genuine animal cruelty is now banned in the countries that allowed it in the video nasties era although I'm not sure it was really allowed because at the time of its production the Cannibal Holocaust director was threatened with legal action.
He reckons the real animal killings were a pre-requisite for cannibal movies at the time which seems to be true and few of those films had a budget to create realistic effects.
It was the real animal killings that gave the films their edge .
It was because they were real that people actually believed people had also been killed in Cannibal Holocaust.
But the past is the past and I can see no sensible reason why the BBFC should cut horsefalls from 50 year old westerns .
It doesn't happen today so cutting it from films when it did happen is stupid .
BBFC reasoning for letting most of the killings in Cannibal Holocaust through is feeble .
They say its because they were clean kills .
I challenge anyone to watch the turtle killing in CH and work out how the BBFC can jjustify editing horsefalls out
Well if anyone was to upload video's onto Youtube with them killing their pets then they would fall foul with the RSPCA
was his wife laughing at their son being stabbed to death by the dad.? Was she on something or in on it. ?.The dark haired woman was in on it, but she his blonde wife...the end was disturbing ..Also why didn't the dad shout or scream that he had just killed his son..he just stared with a glum look on his face and it was over ..didn't make sense
was his wife laughing at their son being stabbed to death by the dad.? Was she on something or in on it. ?.The dark haired woman was in on it, but she his blonde wife...the end was disturbing ..Also why didn't the dad shout or scream that he had just killed his son..he just stared with a glum look on his face and it was over ..didn't make sense
I didn't get that either. It was a very odd and not particularly good film. The hammer to the knee/hand/head part made me feel ill! :eek::p
This film has some of the most realistic/visible violence I've seen I think. That fact you see someone being hit with an object and see the body part getting deformed at the same time is shocking but very well done.
Mine didn't either..now 17 and 18 the older boys..my 5 year old loves anything spooky though..first ride on ny funfair is the ghost train,walk through spooky house etc..stood outside the really scary one at Blackpool pleasurebeach with real people inside scaring you and wanted to go in..lol..met some of the characters outside and thought they were cool and they were very,very scary.(I didn't let him go in by the way!!!).I do keep it all age appropriate but he loves Scooby doo,casper the ghost,little vampire..anything remotely spooky,haunting and a bit scary..men in black,gremlins,ghostbusters..so I can see that progressing in the coming years to spookier and scarier..think you either enjoy horror or not and he adores all the villians in every story..so will probably be looking at these threads in another 10 years picking out films to watch..funny enough he isn't a nasty boy with it..he is very gentle and kind..so I m not concerned I have a serial killer on my hands x
He sounds like me when I was that age!! I was very quiet but happy kid but I loved anything that was spooky! Hocus pocus, scooby doo etc
Then when I was 11 I used to sneak downstairs and back then sky movies box office (the one you had to pay more for) would show scream every night. They would show the first ten minutes then if you hadn't paid it was turn off.
As a kid I'd sneak downstairs and watch that first ten minutes of Drew Barrymores scene over and over again.
I had no idea why because it used to scare the hell out of me!
Most kids do like to be scared I think so it's all pretty normal.
Nothing shocks me any more. Too much real images/films leaked on the internet. Sadly should only be in films. Wish you could go back to the days when you said "It's Only A Film".
Alien vs Predator (I don't remember which one it was)
When they are taking a hospital over and infiltrate a maternity ward, the bit with the pregnant woman was a bit much even for sci-fi
I'd heard about it and thought the story sounded fascinating. I'd seen plenty of gore before (SAW ect) and it's never bothered me so I didn't think for a second about it being disturbing, but... It's bloody horrific!!! :eek::(
The graphic nature of some of the scenes were just unnecessary, it completely spoilt the film for me. I honestly wish I'd never seen it.
I'd heard about it and thought the story sounded fascinating. I'd seen plenty of gore before (SAW ect) and it's never bothered me so I didn't think for a second about it being disturbing, but... It's bloody horrific!!! :eek::(
The graphic nature of some of the scenes were just unnecessary, it completely spoilt the film for me. I honestly wish I'd never seen it.
In that case I think I'll stay well clear. Is it just bloody violence for the sake of it and doesn't really add much to the story?
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I wasn't referring to snuff movies ( no proof any exist) but those films as described in my other post.
Genuine death footage ( not murder) such as Traces of Death is very hard to watch and although available in the US a planned UK release of Volume 1 was banned by the BBFC.
But they did allow Executions to be released .
As with the porn pretending to be sex education Executions could be seen as sensationalist death footage pretending to be educational about the death penalty.
While I would have viewed it in the 80's ( if it has been out) purely for its shock value today it does standup as a good advert for banning the death penalty so it serves its purpose.
Although some of the crimes committed these days fully deserve the suffering that seems to be part of certain forms of execution
I really don't know why I am reading this thread because I loath horror films, any sort of gore and I am off.
It does shock me that you have been watching these sort of films from the age of 8. I don't know if that is the norm nowadays but my grandkids are 9 and 11 and have never watched a horror film in their lives..
Mine didn't either..now 17 and 18 the older boys..my 5 year old loves anything spooky though..first ride on ny funfair is the ghost train,walk through spooky house etc..stood outside the really scary one at Blackpool pleasurebeach with real people inside scaring you and wanted to go in..lol..met some of the characters outside and thought they were cool and they were very,very scary.(I didn't let him go in by the way!!!).I do keep it all age appropriate but he loves Scooby doo,casper the ghost,little vampire..anything remotely spooky,haunting and a bit scary..men in black,gremlins,ghostbusters..so I can see that progressing in the coming years to spookier and scarier..think you either enjoy horror or not and he adores all the villians in every story..so will probably be looking at these threads in another 10 years picking out films to watch..funny enough he isn't a nasty boy with it..he is very gentle and kind..so I m not concerned I have a serial killer on my hands x
My Grandkids love 'spooky' things too and they know about Dracula and Frankenstein but what they are allowed to watch is all age appropriate and is very different from watching some of the real nasty stuff that it out there.
I hope they keep their innocence for a little while longer..:):)
Definitely..Ghostbusters and Scooby Doo it is for a while longer
I love The Human Centipede although I haven't seen the second one! No, it's not at all gory there's hardly any blood, and you never see any faeces on screen. I hate idea of surgery and hospitals at the best of times, so that's why I probably thought it was great modern horror film. It's a very original modern horror story and there's not a lot of them. Sometimes modern horror films use too much CGI which I think ruins it (eg: Drag Me To Hell). The 80's horror films couldn't rely on CGI, but just told great stories instead.
Far more gorier than the Saw or Hostel films is the original 1987 Day Of The Dead. I can't understand that the censors banned films like The Burning and The Evil Dead but passed this zombie flick whereby zombies are ripping apart live humans and munching into their intestines. First time I saw it literally almost made me want to puke!
I also agree. I'm against censors telling me what I can and cannot watch but deliberately harming/killing animals for cheap foreign C grade movies is not right and should not be allowed. Animal cruelty is against the law in this and many other countries, so why allow a (probably, I refuse to watch it :mad:) crappy film so an egotistical smug director can line their pockets? They didn't have to harm any animal in real life, plenty of films/TV depict simulated animal cruelty. It's probably a poor rip of George Romero's zombie flicks anyway.
I'm not knocking the film/scene or anything and in fact I am praising it due to how hard it is to watch due to the good acting/SFX.
Also the line where bob says 'lose the arm' always makes me feel sick due to how heartless it is.
I actually liked watching films like Saw and all that but now I can't stand them. I saw a film called The Loved Ones a while back and parts of that made me think enough of this sort of crap.
I stay away from torture porn horror now. I think it's gotten to a point of being just ridiculous (not that is was that sane to being with
have you seen the Saw films or Hostel fims..there good
Neither The Burning nor The Evil Dead were banned by the BBFC.
Both got 18 certificates . The Burning had a very brief shot of shears cutting off some fingers censored and the video was withdrawn and replaced by the BBFC version when Thorn EMI issued the uncut version by mistake.
The Evil Dead was released with an 18 in 1981 although the BBFC snipped nearly a minute out of it.
The Evil Dead videos that got prosecuted were actually the BBFC 18 versions - which shows how stupid the video nasties era was.
But the original Day of the Dead is not very gory really.
Not much happens at all until near the end when everyone starts dying and the BBFC did snip a bit out of it .
Fans of Dawn of the Dead were mightily disappointed with Day when it first came out although I'm not sure if Romeros slashed budget would have also affected the gore quotient as much as it did the rest of the film.
Genuine animal cruelty is now banned in the countries that allowed it in the video nasties era although I'm not sure it was really allowed because at the time of its production the Cannibal Holocaust director was threatened with legal action.
He reckons the real animal killings were a pre-requisite for cannibal movies at the time which seems to be true and few of those films had a budget to create realistic effects.
It was the real animal killings that gave the films their edge .
It was because they were real that people actually believed people had also been killed in Cannibal Holocaust.
But the past is the past and I can see no sensible reason why the BBFC should cut horsefalls from 50 year old westerns .
It doesn't happen today so cutting it from films when it did happen is stupid .
BBFC reasoning for letting most of the killings in Cannibal Holocaust through is feeble .
They say its because they were clean kills .
I challenge anyone to watch the turtle killing in CH and work out how the BBFC can jjustify editing horsefalls out
Hi, I'm Butch!
He could not have been camper.
Mind you one of my favourite films is Battle Royale which has kids killing each other often very violently. But the character development and morality issues raised means I hardly notice the bloodshed.
LOL don't even get me started on Hostel! Terrible films (as in crap).
One thing I like about saw was how each film continued from the previous movie and so at times it was like watching one (very) long film.
The opening scene from Goodfellas (as well as the beating later on) is really gruesome. Especially when you see the blood squirting about while the guy gets his head kicked in.
Audition is quite shocking I guess but that's probably due to the 'Kiri Kiri Kiri' bit. Great movie though. :cool:
Ichi the Killer is disgusting at times movie but weirdly I quite like it.
The scene at the beginning where the girl is being beaten then raped and Ichi saves her only for him to say to the girl he will take the rapists place is a real WTF moment but at the same time a nice change as you aren't really expecting him to say that.
Day Of The Dead is actually my favourite Romero zombie film and my favourite ever horror film, not because I find the ending gory. I've got it on DVD and I don't think anything has been cut from it, it's extreme enough! I've also got The Burning and The Hills Have Eyes which are all now uncut versions. I also bought a copy of The Last House On The Left just before the BBFC finally allowed it to be released uncensored.
Well if anyone was to upload video's onto Youtube with them killing their pets then they would fall foul with the RSPCA
Can someone explain why
I didn't get that either. It was a very odd and not particularly good film. The hammer to the knee/hand/head part made me feel ill! :eek::p
This film has some of the most realistic/visible violence I've seen I think. That fact you see someone being hit with an object and see the body part getting deformed at the same time is shocking but very well done.
He sounds like me when I was that age!! I was very quiet but happy kid but I loved anything that was spooky! Hocus pocus, scooby doo etc
Then when I was 11 I used to sneak downstairs and back then sky movies box office (the one you had to pay more for) would show scream every night. They would show the first ten minutes then if you hadn't paid it was turn off.
As a kid I'd sneak downstairs and watch that first ten minutes of Drew Barrymores scene over and over again.
I had no idea why because it used to scare the hell out of me!
Most kids do like to be scared I think so it's all pretty normal.
When they are taking a hospital over and infiltrate a maternity ward, the bit with the pregnant woman was a bit much even for sci-fi
Seriously though Martyrs was quite shocking.
They are artistic just like moi!
I might watch that after reading up about it.
I'd heard about it and thought the story sounded fascinating. I'd seen plenty of gore before (SAW ect) and it's never bothered me so I didn't think for a second about it being disturbing, but... It's bloody horrific!!! :eek::(
The graphic nature of some of the scenes were just unnecessary, it completely spoilt the film for me. I honestly wish I'd never seen it.
In that case I think I'll stay well clear. Is it just bloody violence for the sake of it and doesn't really add much to the story?
It's an extreme subject for a start. 'Martyrdom' has become a very softened term over the years. Martyrs goes right back to its roots.