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Oscar Pistorius Bail Hearing Begins
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http://news.sky.com/story/1053938/oscar-pistorius-there-was-a-motive-to-kill
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Why would a burglar lock themselves in the bathroom, asks prosecuter. Says indicates that alleged murder was pre-planned?
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Why would a burglar lock themselves in the bathroom, asks prosecuter. Says indicates that alleged murder was pre-planned?
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To pinch a loaf.
I will be interested to see how the case progresses. But "accidental" seems like a stretch to me at the moment given the information we have in the public forum.
Possible. My point is, would you REALLY shoot through a closed (or locked) door without being fairly sure who was behind it? If he had the gun and was pointing it at the door, surely saying something along the lines of "I have a gun pointed at you, identify yourself" would not take a huge stretch of brainpower.
Well yes exactly, seems a bit odd. But if it was premeditated, surely he could have thought of a more convincing way of doing it.
What is ok to talk about in threads about ongoing trials?
what, and it never crossed his mind that it might be his girlfriend who had been in bed with him and wasn't anymore?
you'd have though he'd at least been a bit cautious
No idea. I guess stuff thats already in the public domain is ok to discuss. And its not a UK trial. However other threads on the subject have been deleted so possibly this one will too.
I didn't say I believed it! Just how it could be 'explained'.
Who locks the door when they go for a pee in the night anyway.
i understand
it seems likely that is what he will offer as a defence, but its going to look sketchy by any standards. i read in the telegraph there hadn't been a burglary in that complx for 5 years.
Because there is no jury system there, there is noone who could be swayed by internet talk. Therefore we can say what we want.
No - I suppose in this instance they mean that they believe he knew who was behind the door when the shots were fired, but the shots were still fired anyway?
Playing devils advocate, that argument works both ways
If it was an armed burglar in the bathroom - do you think they would hesitate in shooting through a close door if they thought there was somebody on the other side (possibly armed) waiting for them.
You cant necessarily put a rational argument together for why somebody takes a certain course of action in an extreme situation. People often react spontaneously in such circumstances.
I'm sure the court will get to the bottom of what happened.
I suppose it depends where you live. Over here I doubt we would. Gun crime isn't such a regular occurrence. In a country where there are lots of guns and lots of gun related crime and if you grew up knowing that, then you would handle any situation appropriately and certainly differently from the UK.
And the door being locked is just speculation.
Police: “Yes sir, how can we help?”
Caller: “Well I think there might be a burglar locked in my bathroom”
Police: “Right sir, the door is locked from the inside?”
Caller: “Yes, I was chasing them and managed to bash their skull with a cricket bat, and they ran into the bathroom”
Police: “Have they said anything?”
Caller: “Well, yes, they’re screaming that they’re actually my girlfriend”
Police: “Does it sound like your girlfriend?”
Caller: “Well actually it does a bit”
Police: "Did it look like your girlfriend when you bashed her with the cricket bat?"
Caller: "Well, yes, it did a bit"
BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!
Police: “What was that?”
To be continued
Yes, it may or may not have been locked but it was definitely closed.
I take your point about where you are and the mindset. In the US as well I guess you might shoot first and ask questions later. Presumably all this will be gone into over the course of the proceedings.
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Surely he had to put his legs on otherwise he couldn't have got to the bathroom or run away from a burglar ?