Horse Racing 2013

swingalegswingaleg Posts: 103,090
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New year, new thread...............

Sad news today that Katchit has died of colic at age 10

He won the Triumph hurdle and the Champion hurdle..........he was a little 'un, but game as they come and he loved running up that Cheltenham hill !
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  • Darren LethemDarren Lethem Posts: 61,645
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    Who is going to tell Swing to check his calendar :p
  • swingalegswingaleg Posts: 103,090
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    Who is going to tell Swing to check his calendar :p

    oh dear.............cheers darren !

    I fancy Camelot for the Derby !...................:D
  • swingalegswingaleg Posts: 103,090
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    Another old favourite of mine has died............Generous

    What a fabulous horse - Dewhurst, Derby, Irish Derby and King George winner, beautiful big chestnut

    The other great 3yo of that season was Suave Dancer who won the French Derby, Irish Champion Stakes and Arc

    Generous beat Suave dancer in the irish Derby but was well beaten by the French horse in the Arc

    I remember that season well because I'd entered a magazine Ten To Follow (the old pacemaker magazine if anyone remembers it) which was heavily weighted towards group one races..........I'd made generous and suave dancer my bankers but didn;t have both of them in the same list............:eek:

    They mopped up most of the group ones and i';d have that national comp if i had 'em both in one list because no one else had suave dancer............they'd all gone for English horses. I'd been clever and looked to France.................:p
  • Darren LethemDarren Lethem Posts: 61,645
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    New ratings out have Frankel at 140 and thus the best rated flat horse ever

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/horse-racing/20988930
  • swingalegswingaleg Posts: 103,090
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    New ratings out have Frankel at 140 and thus the best rated flat horse ever

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/horse-racing/20988930

    That's a strange one............they've managed to give Frankel top spot by downgrading Dancing Brave by 3 lbs

    It does smack a bit a of wanting 'the most recent' to be top of the pile................:eek:
  • jmclaughjmclaugh Posts: 63,997
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    Well to be correct the best flat horse since 1977 not ever.

    I heard about this review a while back and thought at the time the outcome will be exactly what it has turned out to be. The practice of revising the ratings for other horses down to ensure Frankel becomes the top rated horse since these ratings were first introduced is deplorable. Quite how 26 years after he raced today's handicappers can downgrade Dancing Brave by 3lbs is a mystery to me.
  • jmclaughjmclaugh Posts: 63,997
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    Sad news about Generous, a really lovely looking and exceptional racehorse.
  • alanrollinsalanrollins Posts: 3,045
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    I am very disappointed that it was seen as necessary to downgrade other great horses to give Frankel a new rating. Its as if they have done it to create a media talking point.
  • tsotso Posts: 25,860
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    Aussie meeting was called off today because it was too HOT:eek::p
    Fat chance that ever happening here(mind you it has been known that 'sun in their eyes' has meant a race or two lost)
  • swingalegswingaleg Posts: 103,090
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    tso wrote: »
    Aussie meeting was called off today because it was too HOT:eek::p
    Fat chance that ever happening here(mind you it has been known that 'sun in their eyes' has meant a race or two lost)

    I guess the nearest we would get to that would be if the ground was too hard to be raceable after a scorching drought..........it would probably be Bath where they don't have a watering system

    strange that..............Bath.........no water !.............:p
  • swingalegswingaleg Posts: 103,090
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    Only Lingfield left now today and they're inspecting again at 11 AM.................could well be a blank day
  • jmclaughjmclaugh Posts: 63,997
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    A dire day's racing with only an AW flat meeting at Kempton going ahead.
  • swingalegswingaleg Posts: 103,090
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    jmclaugh wrote: »
    A dire day's racing with only an AW flat meeting at Kempton going ahead.

    I'm having a look at it though..........:eek::p
  • jmclaughjmclaugh Posts: 63,997
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    swingaleg wrote: »
    I'm having a look at it though..........:eek::p

    You must obviously need your fix. :D
  • swingalegswingaleg Posts: 103,090
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    jmclaugh wrote: »
    You must obviously need your fix. :D

    I probably won't have a bet but I need selections for a couple of racing comps I'm in.................I have to pick at least 2 horses a day..........:eek:

    tbh I don't bet very much...........I had a bet 2 days ago (it lost :mad:) and that was my first bet for a couple of months
  • swingalegswingaleg Posts: 103,090
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    I'm a bit behind in my comps this month so i need some bigger price winners to get into contention............for my first one I've gone for Chambles (to win) in the 1.45 at 12/1

    Would have finished a lot closer last time if she hadn't missed the break so I'll know my fate early............if she breaks with the others I'm in with a chance..............:o
  • swingalegswingaleg Posts: 103,090
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    grrrrrr............I'm not in form at the moment...........:mad:
  • BigOrangeBigOrange Posts: 59,671
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    What a story this is. 48 year old Ann Stokell, jockey, trainer, and box driver, wins the 4:10 at Wolverhampton from the front, 27 years after her first success in Wetherby bumper !

    http://www.attheraces.com/VideoConsole/?va=WOL_2013_01_22_04_1540

    I love the way she has a good look around in the final furlong. Needed that line to come badly and it did just in the nick of time. :D

    Great stuff. Landed some place money on Hold the Star last week as well so the best week for the yard in a long time I'd have thought.
  • BigOrangeBigOrange Posts: 59,671
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    But it wasn't all heartwarming stuff on the AW today. Oh no. Tim Easterby's charge Faffa, which drifted right before the off, was given a very iffy ride by Adam Carter in the race after that at Wolves. And having investigated, stewards decided to issue a 10 day ban:
    4.20, fifth race

    The Stewards held an enquiry into the running and riding of FAFFA, ridden by Adam Carter and trained by Tim Easterby, which was tenderly handled over the final two furlongs before running on to finish third beaten 2¼ lengths. They interviewed the rider and the trainer’s representative. They also received a report from the Veterinary Officer. The rider stated his instructions were to drop in, to get the gelding to settle as he had run keenly over five furlongs in his previous race. He added that having taken a pull on leaving the stalls FAFFA was initially outpaced and then tended to run in snatches. He went on to say that whilst he was happy with his position round the final bend, he had been wasting heavily at short notice and after feeling weak in the straight was consequently unable to ride more vigorously and go for his whip. The trainer’s representative confirmed the instructions and conceded that he could have ridden a stronger finish. Having heard their evidence and viewed recordings of the race the Stewards found the rider in breach of Rule (B)59.4 and guilty of failing to take all reasonable and permissible measures to obtain the best possible placing. They suspended him for 10 days as follows: Tuesday 5, Wednesday 6, Thursday 7, Friday 8, Saturday 9, Sunday 10, Monday 11, Tuesday 12, Wednesday 13, Thursday 14 February 2013.
    Source: http://www.britishhorseracing.com/resources/about/whatwedo/disciplinary/stewardsEnquiries.asp

    The rider felt too "weak" to carry out a challenge? Never heard such nonsense in all the time I've been following racing. He shouldn't be on a racecourse competing in a race in which people have bet money if that's the case.

    Here's the video replay of the race: http://www.attheraces.com/VideoConsole/?va=WOL_2013_01_22_04_1610

    P.S. I did not bet on this horse, but I thought the ride was disgraceful and commend the stewards for taking action.
  • swingalegswingaleg Posts: 103,090
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    Dancc wrote: »
    What a story this is. 48 year old Ann Stokell, jockey, trainer, and box driver, wins the 4:10 at Wolverhampton from the front, 27 years after her first success in Wetherby bumper !

    http://www.attheraces.com/VideoConsole/?va=WOL_2013_01_22_04_1540

    I love the way she has a good look around in the final furlong. Needed that line to come badly and it did just in the nick of time. :D

    Great stuff. Landed some place money on Hold the Star last week as well so the best week for the yard in a long time I'd have thought.


    Someone on another forum has compiled stats for the 10 jockeys with the biggest profit to a £1 level stake over the last 2 years....................and Ann Stokell is top of the list !.........:eek::p

    She only wins 1 or 2 races a year from a relatively few rides but they're always 33/1 or 50/1 shots...............
  • BigOrangeBigOrange Posts: 59,671
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    swingaleg wrote: »
    Someone on another forum has compiled stats for the 10 jockeys with the biggest profit to a £1 level stake over the last 2 years....................and Ann Stokell is top of the list !.........:eek::p

    She only wins 1 or 2 races a year from a relatively few rides but they're always 33/1 or 50/1 shots...............
    LOL. I think she even had a 100/1 winner last year. The market always underestimates her horses' chances, probably because it's such a small yard fielding so few runners.

    Ann very nearly ran into the place money again this afternoon on Island Express at 16/1 which recovered from last place at the top of the straight to finish very strongly in the 1:45 at Lingfield.
  • dtcdtcdtcdtcdtcdtc Posts: 16,990
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    Andrew Heffernan has been banned for 15 years and footballers Michael Chopra and Mark Wilson banned for 10 years after being found guilty at a corruption trial


    Full Story

    http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/article/465/8434865/heffernan-banned-from-racing-for-15-years
  • swingalegswingaleg Posts: 103,090
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    Anyone backing anything at cheltenham today ?

    I've done a couple...........

    Wayward prince EW at 12/1 BOG in the Argento Chase
    Reve de Sivola - win at 2/1 BOG in the Cleeve

    Come on my sons !................:D
  • alanrollinsalanrollins Posts: 3,045
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    Yes, delighted its on.

    Quite fancy Poquelin in the 1315, seems to be on a decent mark and is a specalist round here. I've got approaching 40s on Betfair...

    Kumbeshwar e/w, Hunt Ball and At Fishers Cross, generally opposing favourites today. Can't see past Sprinter Sacre though but Kumbeshwar seems a big price if you are to effectively make him 10/1 to win the race if Sprinter Sacre wasn't in it.

    And I agree about Reve De Sivola, big question as to whether you would save Oscar Whisky for Aintree if he can't get the three miles here.
  • swingalegswingaleg Posts: 103,090
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    Good luck alan.........

    Not sure about Poquelin these days, he's got a terrific CD record but he's not shown it for a while ! Still it's all about the price and 40s looks ok, he's currently about 25/1

    If I'm doing anything EW I need to be able to discount the favourites..............can't bet against sprinter Sacre and as i don't use Betfair i can't do EW on a 7 runner race..........can see where you're coming from with Kumbeshwar as they'll ride him for 3rd and won't take on the big guns.

    Poquelin's race about to start................
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