Paul Barnes Brilliant Show Featuring Harlem Stride Piano

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'The Late Paul Barnes', BBC Cambridgeshire, Essex, Kent, Three Counties, Suffolk, Norfolk & Northampton, focussed on Harlem Stride piano last night.

Paul - an expert presenter - who should be on Radio 2 - highlighted the music of James P Johnson - the pioneer piano professor, who lies in an unmarked grave. A fund raising concert was held in the USA to buy a headstone for this important musical figure.

James P composed 'The Charleston' which inspired the dance craze of the 1920s. He influenced Fats Waller, Count Basie and many other stride piano players.
Barnsey featured a selection of tracks by Johnson, Waller, Basie and Art Tatum.

As much a part of the show was PB's informed commentary which perfectly complimented the music.

Other offerings on the 2 hour show included The Charleston Chasers - a current British Orchrestra, performing classic jazz and hot dance music from the 20s and 20s and Martin Litton's trio arrangement of Jelly Roll Morton's, 'The Pearls', from the new 'Ragtime Revisited' DVD/CD box set.
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=johnpetters#p/a/u/1/euQaMe6G2uo

The Late Paul Barnes is available on BBC Iplayer at:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/p004mb7j
Enjoy!
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  • Murray MintMurray Mint Posts: 9,129
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    Yes, John. We know you think Paul Barnes should be on Radio 2. You've said dozens of times that you think Paul Barnes should be on Radio 2. You've also said dozen of times that Paul Barnes' playlist should be part of Radio 2's daytime playlist. I think we get the message, John.

    That said, Paul Barnes isn't on Radio 2 and there's very little chance that he will be hired by Radio 2.
  • TabbythecatTabbythecat Posts: 33,953
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    That said, Paul Barnes isn't on Radio 2 and there's very little chance that he will be hired by Radio 2.

    PB is employed by BBC Radio Norfolk so its unlikley to be asked as his show doesnt fit in R2's new remit
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    Yes, its a good show.
    But what I think will make it better is, a bit of Happy Hardcore and Thrash Metal thrown in, just to widen peoples musical tastes, y'know. :rolleyes:
  • Murray MintMurray Mint Posts: 9,129
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    PB is employed by BBC Radio Norfolk so its unlikley to be asked as his show doesnt fit in R2's new remit

    Radio Norfolk are more than welcome to keep Paul Barnes; Radio 2 doesn't need him.

    I understand Barnes' shows have been cut anyway. This must tell Mr Petters something: Barnes' programme is not as popular as it used to be, otherwise it wouldn't have been tampered with.
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    I understand Barnes' shows have been cut anyway. This must tell Mr Petters something: Barnes' programme is not as popular as it used to be, otherwise it wouldn't have been tampered with.

    Its part of a load of changes currently taking place within BBC Local Radio
  • Murray MintMurray Mint Posts: 9,129
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    Its part of a load of changes currently taking place within BBC Local Radio

    What? You mean BBC Local Radio is finally being kicked into the 21st century?!
  • Mapperley RidgeMapperley Ridge Posts: 9,922
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    'Other offerings on the 2 hour show included The Charleston Chasers - a current British Orchrestra, performing classic jazz and hot dance music from the 20s and 20s and Martin Litton's trio arrangement of Jelly Roll Morton's, 'The Pearls', from the new 'Ragtime Revisited' DVD/CD box set.
    http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=johnpetters#p/a/u/1/euQaMe6G2uo

    The Late Paul Barnes is available on BBC Iplayer at:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/p004mb7j
    Enjoy!

    John

    This is a forum about radio. Why are you using it to plug your own products?
  • Murray MintMurray Mint Posts: 9,129
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    mistermeep wrote: »
    Yes, its a good show.
    But what I think will make it better is, a bit of Happy Hardcore and Thrash Metal thrown in, just to widen peoples musical tastes, y'know. :rolleyes:

    I doubt that will happen. BBC Local Radio isn't that musically open minded, which is why most BBC Local Radio stations are so bland.
  • Mapperley RidgeMapperley Ridge Posts: 9,922
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    I doubt that will happen. BBC Local Radio isn't that musically open minded, which is why most BBC Local Radio stations are so bland.


    Have you not hard of BBC Introducing then? Almost every local radio stations has a remit to break new music in some way. I would refer you to The Beat which goes out on BBC LR across the East Midlands on Saturday nights for started. Many new contemporary bands and more than the occasional exclusive. For instance : the only radio interview with Michael Stipe the last time REM did a European tour.
  • Murray MintMurray Mint Posts: 9,129
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    Have you not hard of BBC Introducing then? Almost every local radio stations has a remit to break new music in some way. I would refer you to The Beat which goes out on BBC LR across the East Midlands on Saturday nights for started. Many new contemporary bands and more than the occasional exclusive. For instance : the only radio interview with Michael Stipe the last time REM did a European tour.

    That's a very good thing. Last time I tuned into BBC Eastern Counties, Richard Spendlove was on playing the kind of music the two Johns like. It was awful.
  • TabbythecatTabbythecat Posts: 33,953
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    What? You mean BBC Local Radio is finally being kicked into the 21st century?!

    You would be suprised what plans they have in store
  • Murray MintMurray Mint Posts: 9,129
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    You would be suprised what plans they have in store

    Well it's about time BBC Local Radio was hauled into the 21st century. Most of the programming is geriatric and way past its sell buy date.

    BBC London is a prime example of what BBC Local Radio should sound like.
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    Have you not hard of BBC Introducing then? Almost every local radio stations has a remit to break new music in some way.

    Roy Waller has fallen victim of the changes, I wish Lesley Dolphin was shown the door along with Mr Murphy on Suffolk
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    Well it's about time BBC Local Radio was hauled into the 21st century. Most of the programming is geriatric and way past its sell buy date.

    I concur with you in part
    BBC Essex is currently being re-vamped as their daytime format needs it badly
  • Mapperley RidgeMapperley Ridge Posts: 9,922
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    Roy Waller has fallen victim of the changes, I wish Lesley Dolphin was shown the door along with Mr Murphy on Suffolk

    And how many awards has Mark Murphy now won then? Must be doing something right.
  • Murray MintMurray Mint Posts: 9,129
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    I concur with you in part
    BBC Essex is currently being re-vamped as their daytime format needs it badly

    Does this mean no more stupid phone-ins about gardening? ;)
  • johnpettersjohnpetters Posts: 1,548
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    Well it's about time BBC Local Radio was hauled into the 21st century. Most of the programming is geriatric and way past its sell buy date.

    BBC London is a prime example of what BBC Local Radio should sound like.
    Oh Dear Scott, is there nowhere on DS that is free from your repetitive circular remarks?
    I'd have thought this was a thread which had no interest at all for you!
    There is certainly nothing geriatric about the Barnes show, the coverage of which was extended by two stations - BBC Kent and BBC 3 counties in the recent reshuffle of local radio.
    It remains a beacon of excellence for devotees of good intelligent creative music that matters.
  • Murray MintMurray Mint Posts: 9,129
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    Oh Dear Scott, is there nowhere on DS that is free from your repetitive circular remarks?
    I'd have thought this was a thread which had no interest at all for you!
    There is certainly nothing geriatric about the Barnes show, the coverage of which was extended by two stations - BBC Kent and BBC 3 counties in the recent reshuffle of local radio.
    It remains a beacon of excellence for devotees of good intelligent creative music that matters.

    John,

    You need to take a step back and read your own circular postings. If you're not bleating on about Paul Barnes, you're complaining about Radio 2's music policies!
  • TolknyTolkny Posts: 35
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    Well I think it is worth recording anywhere that Radio folk maybe that The Late Paul Barnes is an excellent programme, worthy of national radio.

    He is obviously a jazz and band music specialist and expert of the pre 60's era and consequently of interest to those whose early years were marked by radio being the main medium of entertainment. As those reach their oldest years 80+ and dementia arises as it does for 25% at that age, radio can again be a source of comfort, enjoyment and most of all stimulation.

    This is the generation whose childhoods were dominated by the after effects of WW1, then the recession of the thirties before they were caught up in WW2, yet they are mostly cast aside.

    PB used to broadcast for three hours a week from 6 pm. He has now been cast aside to 11 pm for 2 hours. Fine for me but 80+'s are hardly internet savvy.

    So yet again they are pushed aside.

    The prog that has replaced PB by presented by Colin Berry is pap.

    So, I believe that if we really care about the most senior of our citizens we should try to get "their" music on easily found conventional national radio during the day not around midnight.

    Just before the late night switch I recall a letter from a widow with a list of the tunes from her courting years in the forties. PB worked through some of them over several weeks, and everyone was happy.

    So lets hear it for bring back Paul Barnes to a daytime national programme and lets have a few more of those progs brought into the daylight hours from late Sunday night Radio 2.
  • Murray MintMurray Mint Posts: 9,129
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    Have you wondered why Paul Barnes was moved from 6.00 - 9.00pm Saturdays to 11.00pm - 1.00am? Perhaps Paul was not pulling in a good audience.

    During one of her many appearances on Radio 4's Feedback programme, former Radio 2 Controller Lesley Douglas said thorough research is conducted before schedule changes take place.

    The BBC would not simply move Paul Barnes to a later slot without a very good reason. If research showed that a huge percentage of listeners would listen to BBC Local at 6.00pm Saturdays if Barnes was replaced with a modern programme then schedule changes will take place in response to this.

    In 2004 when Desmond Carrington was dropped from Sunday lunchtimes on Radio 2 after 23 years, listeners lodged complaints with the BBC and Radio 4's Feedback programme. Carrington was replaced with Elaine Paige and some lsteners were alienated. Lesley Douglas said Carrington was removed because core daytime audiences were alienated by his presence and playlist.

    I suspect this is why Paul Barnes was moved to a pater slot on BBC Local.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 360
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    Have you wondered why Paul Barnes was moved from 6.00 - 9.00pm Saturdays to 11.00pm - 1.00am? Perhaps Paul was not pulling in a good audience.

    During one of her many appearances on Radio 4's Feedback programme, former Radio 2 Controller Lesley Douglas said thorough research is conducted before schedule changes take place.

    The BBC would not simply move Paul Barnes to a later slot without a very good reason. If research showed that a huge percentage of listeners would listen to BBC Local at 6.00pm Saturdays if Barnes was replaced with a modern programme then schedule changes will take place in response to this.

    In 2004 when Desmond Carrington was dropped from Sunday lunchtimes on Radio 2 after 23 years, listeners lodged complaints with the BBC and Radio 4's Feedback programme. Carrington was replaced with Elaine Paige and some lsteners were alienated. Lesley Douglas said Carrington was removed because core daytime audiences were alienated by his presence and playlist.

    I suspect this is why Paul Barnes was moved to a pater slot on BBC Local.

    Lesley Douglas many appearances on Feedback?

    I seem to remember that there were complaints that she seldom went on that programme.
  • Murray MintMurray Mint Posts: 9,129
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    howard66 wrote: »
    Lesley Douglas many appearances on Feedback?

    I seem to remember that there were complaints that she seldom went on that programme.

    Lesley Douglas failed to appear each time Radio 2 fell under the spotlight on Feedback. Sometimes David Barber appeared on her behalf.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 360
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    Lesley Douglas failed to appear each time Radio 2 fell under the spotlight on Feedback. Sometimes David Barber appeared on her behalf.

    Yet in your post of 20.01 you say the opposite.
  • Murray MintMurray Mint Posts: 9,129
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    howard66 wrote: »
    Yet in your post of 20.01 you say the opposite.

    No I haven't. I said Lesley Douglas appeared on Feedback many times; I did not say she appeared everytime.

    Lesley was not always available.
  • johnpettersjohnpetters Posts: 1,548
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    Have you wondered why Paul Barnes was moved from 6.00 - 9.00pm Saturdays to 11.00pm - 1.00am? Perhaps Paul was not pulling in a good audience.

    During one of her many appearances on Radio 4's Feedback programme, former Radio 2 Controller Lesley Douglas said thorough research is conducted before schedule changes take place.

    The BBC would not simply move Paul Barnes to a later slot without a very good reason. If research showed that a huge percentage of listeners would listen to BBC Local at 6.00pm Saturdays if Barnes was replaced with a modern programme then schedule changes will take place in response to this.

    In 2004 when Desmond Carrington was dropped from Sunday lunchtimes on Radio 2 after 23 years, listeners lodged complaints with the BBC and Radio 4's Feedback programme. Carrington was replaced with Elaine Paige and some lsteners were alienated. Lesley Douglas said Carrington was removed because core daytime audiences were alienated by his presence and playlist.

    I suspect this is why Paul Barnes was moved to a pater slot on BBC Local.

    Wrong Scott!
    Paul picked up 2 new stations with the move, BBC Kent & 3 Counties. It is more than likely he has picked up listeners since Saturday early evening is a busy time for social activities.
    The show is first class. Its presenter has 40 years broadcasting experience with the BBC on national and regional radio. What's more he knows his subject inside out.
    If Radio 2's management had an ounce of common sense, it would immediately approach him to present the Sunday 10PM slot as he would be one of the very few qualified to fill the very big gap left by Malcolm Laycock.

    I wouldn't rely on quoting Lesley Douglas to make your arguement. She showed complete lack of judgement over the disgraceful Ross / Brand fiasco and her actions over the musical side of radio 2 were equally inept.

    Your assertion that core daytime audiences were alienated by Desmond Carrington does not hold water. I was one such listener who is now alienated by what is offered currently.
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