If Lady Gaga fails this time around, what then?
Not a gaga hater, actually a fan! But I want to know peoples (unbiased non fanboyish) opinions on what will happen to Lady Gaga if her next album isn't a success.
Whilst BTW wasn't as huge as TFM and isn't looked back very fondly, it still did well didn't it? I don't have the figures to hand.
What happens if she has another BTW, in that it does well commercially but the songs are even more forgettable, or how about a complete flop like Christina has recently with Lotus.
Hopefully this won't be the case, I wanna hear more TFM style music from her.
Whilst BTW wasn't as huge as TFM and isn't looked back very fondly, it still did well didn't it? I don't have the figures to hand.
What happens if she has another BTW, in that it does well commercially but the songs are even more forgettable, or how about a complete flop like Christina has recently with Lotus.
Hopefully this won't be the case, I wanna hear more TFM style music from her.
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ARTPOP needs to produce more than one hit song. Her biggest problem though is how she now connects to people. Her fans are growing older and the casuals now seem to be sick of her. She needs to target new fans as well as keeping the one's she already has. Plus with Beyoncé and Justin Timberlake looking set to dominate the charts this year Gaga could find it hard to compete if early expectations aren't met.
I actually think though all eyes should be on the jazz album. That could make her a legend.
I agree above, all eyes will be on her jazz album much more. I think she will change people's perceptions and allow people to see that behind the costumes and her outspoken views, she is one of the most talented vocalists around.
What is telling actually is that Gaga did say she was badly advised and sacked people around her. So I don't really think the blame lays with her. She just did as she was told. Problem is the comparisons will now never leave her and no one can compete with Madonna's legacy. That's the situation.
Britney always had the same Madonna comparisons, more so at the beginning of her career, but Britney survived it because she never took herself that seriously. Gaga is different kettle of fish really.
You don't actually have to be that successful to be considered a "success" in the music industry. Lots of artists that get ridiculed on this forum for being flops are actually successful in music industry terms.
But TFM-style music probably WILL cause her to flop. The reason it was successful was because that was the sound that was popular at the time. Everybody was having hits with that type of music in 2007-2009, that's the entire reason why Lady Gaga released an album of that type of music and her label promoted it so hard, they knew it would be a success.
But now, with the charts dominated by the likes of Thrift Shop, Suit & Tie, Stay, Just Give Me a Reason, When I Was Your Man, etc, a song like Poker Face isn't going to be a massive hit. Lady Gaga will need to change her style of music imo. She won't out-right flop if she releases more Poker Faces of course, but it won't give her a huge album era either.
While this is true. Certain stars are expected to sell big units because of their status.
Some are even saying Justin Timberlake has underperformed. So its what happens to stars at a certain level.
It will be the same for Adele's next album. Unless she sells big she will be written off as a one hit wonder! that's the world we live in.
Yeah, it's true. I guess there's the different perspectives. Selling 1 million worldwide in total of an album is "very good" for a normal artist, and will almost certainly mean you get to record a follow-up. But obviously if someone like Lady Gaga sells that much/little, there'll be lots of people saying her career is over, etc.
Adele, pretty much however much she sells people will call it an under-performance lol. I could see her 3rd album selling more than 19 did in 2008 (which was considered a big success at the time), and being called a flop, just because of how huge 21 was.
It's feasible (although unlikely) that she could deliver a total misfire that fails to connect and radio refuses to play, but realistically the worse case scenario would probably be a 3+ million selling album, a high debuting but low selling lead single and a flop or two follow ups. Interscope would likely pull the plug and get her working on a re-release, with high profile collabs and songwriters being chucked at her to ensure success.
Flops aren't the end of the world, people love popstars making comebacks. With Gaga, I'd be more concerned with her really f*cking things up by going too far. Flopping is one thing, but being hated is another.
I think we'll see with this album whether she intends on fighting for the pop crown, or is happy to do her own thing.
- below 5m global sales?
and/or
- not critically acclaimed
and/or
- not admired by fans
If that is the case, I am positive that ...it will not fail
Madonna, Britney, Cyndi, Mariah, Whitney, Janet, Christina, Leona - they've all released at least one album that never met the success of the one that preceeded it but they've all carried on and remained in the spotlight (obviously before Whitney died). some like Kylie start of big, disappear after a low period, and then come back bigger than ever.
Perhaps she'll keep releasing pop albums or maybe explore other sounds but k don't think she'll disappear.
I'd had enough of her after Bad Romance, which started off as a brilliant song but was played to death and thus ruined it for me. Wasn't keen on the second album singles UNTIL Edge Of Glory was released, to me that is her best song to date! I agree with the poster above, it's a classic!
I agree with this a lot. I can't see her going down the Cyndi Lauper route though as her first album was so successful, I think her and her record label are going to be aiming for long-term mainstream success.
It's not curtains it was just unfortunate had BTW gone according to plan she would have been untouchable now everyone is unsure or simply uninterested but it can be turned around. Or maybe just maybe she has truly peaked.
The album could indeed sell less than BTW, it's successor selling less than that, and so on, but anyone thinking there is the slight possibility of this going the same way as Lotus is living in cloud cuckoo land. It's extremely, extremely unlikely that this album will be anything but a big success, even if it does show her career in a negative trajectory.
Thankfully because of less hype and hopefully no 99c deal, the album is very unlikely to sell as crazy fast as it's predecessor did, and so the era should actually last for more than a few months this time around.
There are lessons to be learnt form BTW, and I should hope they've been learned. Like for example, don't release three singles in the space of a month, don't be so freakin' preachy and don't release videos weeks after the singles etc...
I agree entirely. She has 2 of the biggest grossing tours of all time. That is what her people xare about. She makes BIG money.