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LivingTV ends on Vision tomorrow!
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Only came across this last night but LivingTV ends as a Channel On Demand tomorrow. Apart from Most Haunted, i didn't really watch much else, however, surely losing content isn't what BT should be doing?!?!
It does say in the coming months they will be doing something regarding Living shows... does this mean we may soon get 'live' channels??!!
Just a thought...
It does say in the coming months they will be doing something regarding Living shows... does this mean we may soon get 'live' channels??!!
Just a thought...
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Where does it mention this?
On Demand>TV>Channels On Demand> "Living - Available until 13 January"
yes it does seem odd,
my thoughts on this:
1. could be removed to make room for more HD
2. could be turning into a live channel
3. could be coming under a different label I.E paramount turned into CBS
4. Living themselves could want to be withdrawn from the platform.
it is odd.
Roll on BT is failing threads....
erm..
BT is failing...?
BT Vision is being heavily pushed, so BT will not want to lose content!
The technology is there, i don't see why they can't start doing it with channels such as living, g.o.l.d, etc.
I think Vision is of too much importance for BT to let it fall behind, which it unfortunately will without content to match its competiors. (Don't forget, Sky are launching full vod to all HD boxes this year to match Virgin and BT.)
Also, they must be planning on doing live channels soon as they announced a while back that they fully intend to offer the whole sky sports package for the 2010/11 season. They don't have streams over dtt to use so must mean streaming channels!?!
You got a quote for that? This was talked about as far back as 2008 and I havent seen a direct quote from Sky saying as much.
Also from using Sky player on computer I cannot see any functionality will allows watching a full series of a show one after another. It only shows stuff which has been on Sky recently. (Which is 1 thing I really like about BT Vision)
I knew you'd say that
Actually sky did wan't to launch on Fetch TV, maybe in order to get QOS, they've decided to go with BT?
Either way it's space freed up, for something BT want to do.
the Sky player IPTV package now includes live streams of UKTVs Gold and Eden, YKTV is part owned by VM and BBC!
Sky player works on a PC and Xbox so should be able to work on a Sky box with an ethernet port for a VoD service!
Sky's release as mentioned here...
http://www.techradar.com/news/television/sky-hd-will-get-full-video-on-demand-in-2010-621386
they don't necessarily have to use qos... sky player doesnt, all they perhaps need to advise sky viewers in their t&c's is that they'll need at least 2mb/s plus to be aware of data usage, however if with sky broadband they may not include the usage?!
sky are currently happy to take a premium movie and sports subscription from customers every month with no guarantee that the service could get interuppted by drops in broadband speeds... they are obviously not that worried about it or care enough?!?
As for QoS. Without it streams would be of a poorer quality, susceptible to congestion at exchanges and the core network. You could easily find at peak times the stream stuttering or failing to play.
does now, I use sky player alright but at peak times its buffer city.
That's the biggest issue. You can't have a VoD service that buffers. You sit down, see that Forrest Gump is available so think ah I'll watch it and then have to spend 1 minute out of every 5 with it buffering, it's just not going to make a good service at all.
I think the closest we will see Sky coming to VoD is what they have just now with replay or whatever it's called. The money they charge companies to be on the Sky platform, money from subscribers for services they're paying for but not using is too lucrative for Sky to give up. Not to mention the ability to increase the subscription several times per year without a whim from their customers.
ahh, thats BT 'managed networking' for ya.;)
I knew you'd bite
FWIW I agree, the loss of Living is no biggie.
The QoS used on BT Vision was designed and developed by BT Wholesale and is available for any ISP to use. It is not an exclusive BT technology. Also because it was developed by BT Wholesale that would mean Sky cannot use it on their LLU network since Sky only have dealings with Openreach for the local loop in that instance.
Talking of equal footings, when will Sky be broken up in two so that Virgin Media, Tiscali and BT Vision access the exclusive Sky programming for cost rather than Sky's inflated pricing.
Exactly. I have been saying this for a long time. After all Sky have access to the BT networks at cost.
Surprised VM will want to pull Living from BT? (any news?)
Sky had some kind of deal with Homechoice/Tiscalli\Talktalk
but not made public, maybe it's due to the Tiscali TV having only 50k subscribers or paying to much?
BT Vision's CE Gavin Patterson made a formal complaint to Ofcom about the high price Sky wanted for the sports channels, Ofcom have been looking into it for 2 years and I don't think it has yet been resolved yet?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/aug/27/bt-vision-boss-patterson-interview
that isn't the cause.
I meant by peak times were things like peak sports on sky.
can watch some footie highlights no problem no matter what the day or time is.
but the cricket which is on now is completely buffer city.
methinks the office bods at work watching on their pc's....
More like Sky not providing enough bandwidth for access into the BT network.
Sky player generally works fine until a (midweek) football program starts... funnily enough once the program ends there are no issues!
Given the costs of Sky Player (£40 a month for Sky Sports and Sky Movies) and the p*ss poor service (and customer service) - it's a total rip off. Once my discounted trial ends I will be cancelling it.
same,
hopefully virgin will have got us enabled by feb so i will plump for that.
can't even watch the cricket today, terrible.