Lindsay Lohan back in court again today

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  • Dancing GirlDancing Girl Posts: 8,209
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    haphash wrote: »
    I don't understand what exactly Lindsay has done to deserve this constant hounding. There are loads of young people in the USA getting wrecked every day of the week on vodka and hard drugs so why is she picked on? I agree that she does appear to be rather irresponsible but is she really so different to all the other people of her age visiting clubs and having a drink?

    If she really is an alchoholic then she will not be cured until she herself desires it. No amount of sending her to jail for a few hours or these fake rehabs will make any difference. Do we really know that she is an alchoholic or a drug addict? Or is she just a social user?

    As to her being a criminal drunk driving (and shoplifting) maybe reckless and stupid but she is hardly in the major league here.

    I am not defending her silly behaviour but just trying to point out that people are very down on her when there are others doing a lot worse.


    She doesn't respect the law! She drives when drunk, she has shoplifted although she is a successful actress, financially secure and very talented. Nobody likes someone who appears to have so much ignoring the law of the land and behaving as though she can get away with anything at any time because of who she is and her money!! Although she has appeared in court countless times, she does not even attempt to change her behaviour.

    The judge told her to concentrate on her career and stay out of clubs and discos, stop drinking to excess etc and did Lindsay listen? Nope!! It is always somebody else's fault, never hers??!!!!
  • haphashhaphash Posts: 21,448
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    She doesn't respect the law! She drives when drunk, she has shoplifted although she is a successful actress, financially secure and very talented. Nobody likes someone who appears to have so much ignoring the law of the land and behaving as though she can get away with anything at any time because of who she is and her money!! Although she has appeared in court countless times, she does not even attempt to change her behaviour.

    The judge told her to concentrate on her career and stay out of clubs and discos, stop drinking to excess etc and did Lindsay listen? Nope!! It is always somebody else's fault, never hers??!!!!

    She won't change her behaviour because she doesn't think she's got a problem. This may or may not be true. She sees going out drinking as normal socialising although others obviously see it as addiction. She has had some TV work recently and it seems that she is still capable of doing her job well enough and turning up on time.

    You can't force somebody to give something up if they don't want to. That's why all the trips to rehab are just a joke, its like a little holiday.

    This has gone on long enough and should be brought to a close. I understand that people are fed up of what is seen as 'contempt for the law' but frankly that's hardly surprising.
    IMO a judge should not have the right to tell her not to drink. What she does in her own time should be Lyndsay's decision although I totally agree she should be banned from driving.

    Why should a judge be able to tell you not to go out to a night club? Its not against the law to go to a nightclub and have a drink, so as long as someone else is driving, why shouldn't she?
  • Dancing GirlDancing Girl Posts: 8,209
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    I just think the judge was trying to give Lindsay good advice!! She could not prevent Lindsay from drinking but I think a lot of people actually like Lindsay and want to help. The frustrating thing is that Lindsay just does not seem to care!! If she concentrated on her career and was not out (apparently all the time) in clubs etc she might be able to save her career before it is too late. I doubt she will get insurance if her behaviour continues like this. Every movie is insured and if you are looked upon as a great risk, end of career. Regarding drink driving etc., I think she should not have a driving license. She has been found intoxicated behind the wheel, much too often. What are the courts waiting for?
  • whatever54whatever54 Posts: 6,456
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    I just think the judge was trying to give Lindsay good advice!! She could not prevent Lindsay from drinking but I think a lot of people actually like Lindsay and want to help. The frustrating thing is that Lindsay just does not seem to care!! If she concentrated on her career and was not out (apparently all the time) in clubs etc she might be able to save her career before it is too late. I doubt she will get insurance if her behaviour continues like this. Every movie is insured and if you are looked upon as a great risk, end of career. Regarding drink driving etc., I think she should not have a driving license. She has been found intoxicated behind the wheel, much too often. What are the courts waiting for?

    according to the Mail they are waiting for Coachella, so Lilo can attend and then she's off to rehab:rolleyes:
  • user1234567user1234567 Posts: 12,378
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    At this stage I don't even know why she's appearing in court? It seems like she has constantly been in and out for the last few years and I can't keep up.
  • haphashhaphash Posts: 21,448
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    I accept that the judge was trying to give Lyndsay good advice but it still seems very intrusive.

    Imagine the uproar if they had the same policy over here. You lose your license for being over the limit then you are told that you can't go to the pub and that you will have a tag fitted to you to monitor your alchohol intake. I don't think the average citiizen would comply with this for very long so why does everyone expect Lyndsay to be any different?
  • Mr DangerousMr Dangerous Posts: 902
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    whatever54 wrote: »
    Don't they always say it's easier to get hold of drugs in prison than on the outside

    Oh yes, well at least it is over here..
  • whatever54whatever54 Posts: 6,456
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    Oh yes, well at least it is over here..

    I still find that amazing and very shocking, not sure if it's the same in America
  • DavetheScotDavetheScot Posts: 16,623
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    haphash wrote: »
    So you think that anyone who drinks and drives (but doesn't injure anybody) should be locked up for 5 to 10 years ? Really? Or do you think that only Lyndsay deserves this sort of sentence?

    Why should it make any difference if she injures someone? It's her drunk driving that should be the issue. Whether or not anyone is injured really ought to be regarded as a random chance, and shouldn't have any bearing on the sentence. I know it does, but it shouldn't.
  • phil solophil solo Posts: 9,669
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    This woman will never change her ways. Jailing her would at least reduce the risk of her injuring or killing someone else on her self-destructive odyssey.

    Not sending her to jail implicitly condones her behaviour, much as haphash has done on this thread, and encourages her to think that she doesn't need to change her ways as "it will all be okay" at court.

    You can't forcibly 'cure' an addict, but by detaining them you may encourage them to think seriously about 'curing' themselves, and the potential consequences if they don't. As long as it isn't a problem for Lindsay (hey, what's a couple of hours in court every few months!) she'll never think about modifying her lifestyle and behaviour.

    It is often said that an addict must hit bottom before they will commit to recovery, the court system et al keep catching Lindsay before she gets there and propping her up, and I don't believe it is doing her any favours in the long term.

    Frankly at this point I suspect only a hospital scare following an overdose of partying will shake her from her unwavering conviction that she can do what she wants with impunity. Sadly i think someone is going to have to die, or nearly die to get through to her.

    If there is any justice, it will only be Lindsay, and not some bystander she hits with her car while wasted one night. :(
  • haphashhaphash Posts: 21,448
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    I haven't condoned her behaviour on this thread but I do think she has been hounded when other people are getting away with a lot worse. IMO a judge should not have the right to tell anyone not to drink. A judge should be able to send you to prison, fine you or ban you from driving but telling someone they can't drink is nanny state at its worst.

    I find it strange that noone else here agrees with me. Obviously all are blinded by their dislike of Lyndsay and desire to see her fall from grace.

    We should defend our personal freedoms whether or not people make wise choices.
  • DavetheScotDavetheScot Posts: 16,623
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    haphash wrote: »
    I haven't condoned her behaviour on this thread but I do think she has been hounded when other people are getting away with a lot worse. IMO a judge should not have the right to tell anyone not to drink. A judge should be able to send you to prison, fine you or ban you from driving but telling someone they can't drink is nanny state at its worst.

    I find it strange that noone else here agrees with me. Obviously all are blinded by their dislike of Lyndsay and desire to see her fall from grace.

    We should defend our personal freedoms whether or not people make wise choices.

    As I've said earlier, I do like Lindsay a lot and want to see her back on form. I don't think it's a violation of her rights to tell her she can't drink when her drinking is leading to repeated criminality. She can't claim it's her own private business how much she drinks when she allows it to affect others.
  • user1234567user1234567 Posts: 12,378
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    haphash wrote: »
    I haven't condoned her behaviour on this thread but I do think she has been hounded when other people are getting away with a lot worse. IMO a judge should not have the right to tell anyone not to drink. A judge should be able to send you to prison, fine you or ban you from driving but telling someone they can't drink is nanny state at its worst.

    I find it strange that noone else here agrees with me. Obviously all are blinded by their dislike of Lyndsay and desire to see her fall from grace.

    We should defend our personal freedoms whether or not people make wise choices.
    No it's not. It's the exact same thing as when people are let out but have a curfew and have an electronic tag to make sure they don't break it. Do you have a problem with judges telling people what time they have to be in their home by? The people with the ankle tags prefer to be out of prison, even if they still have some restrictions. Same with Lyndsey, she's not in prison but she has lost some freedoms.
  • Saltydog1955Saltydog1955 Posts: 4,134
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    haphash wrote: »
    I haven't condoned her behaviour on this thread but I do think she has been hounded when other people are getting away with a lot worse. IMO a judge should not have the right to tell anyone not to drink. A judge should be able to send you to prison, fine you or ban you from driving but telling someone they can't drink is nanny state at its worst.

    I find it strange that noone else here agrees with me. Obviously all are blinded by their dislike of Lyndsay and desire to see her fall from grace.

    We should defend our personal freedoms whether or not people make wise choices.

    And when she kills someone whilst driving when off her face will you then say that judge should have sent her to prison?

    She needs to be told she is nothing but an alcoholic plain and simple and packed off to closed rehab where she can't leave until she's clean. As phil solo said ^, not jailing her is condoning her behaviour and enabling it time after time as well.
  • haphashhaphash Posts: 21,448
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    If you kill someone drink driving of course you should go to prison but I am surprised at the number of people who think that everyone who is caught driving over the limit (and doesn't injure anyone) should go to prison for a lengthy period of time. That doesn't happen in this country, we would have to build extra prisons.

    I've already said Lyndsay shouldn't be allowed to drive but as I'm repeating myself now I will leave the thread and the rest of you can yell 'jail her' to your hearts content.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 353
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    All she needs is someone to take away her license, send her straight to rehab and then give her a bit of a reality check as atm everyone is just walking on egg shells, treating her like a child, and come on if this was anyone else she wouldn't of had this time before rehab she would be straight in there.
  • DavetheScotDavetheScot Posts: 16,623
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    haphash wrote: »
    If you kill someone drink driving of course you should go to prison but I am surprised at the number of people who think that everyone who is caught driving over the limit (and doesn't injure anyone) should go to prison for a lengthy period of time. That doesn't happen in this country, we would have to build extra prisons.

    I've already said Lyndsay shouldn't be allowed to drive but as I'm repeating myself now I will leave the thread and the rest of you can yell 'jail her' to your hearts content.

    Why do you feel that the result of someone's drink driving should be the criteria for whether they go to jail or not? There's no sense in that approach. A drunk driver who kills someone has not acted any more selfishly than one who hasn't; it's largely chance which one takes a life. And the driver who killed someone is less likely to re-offend. It's a nonsense; it has nothing to do with justice or with making the roads safer and is there only to satisfy the (understandable) vengeful feelings of the victim's family.

    For what it's worth, I wouldn't say jail is the right option on a first offence, unless it's at the very worst level; a driving ban should be the first resort. But if they defy the ban or re-offend, then I think it should be jail.
  • premixxedpremixxed Posts: 3,364
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    Poor Lindsay, she's got her knockers.
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