Jimmy Saville to be revealed as a paedophile? (Part 7)

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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 87,224
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    "Conspiracy of Silence is a 56-minute unreleased documentary film produced by Yorkshire Television in 1994.

    The subject of the film is an alleged child sexual abuse ring involving a number of prominent Nebraska persons, including Lawrence King, an Omaha banker, political fundraiser, and convicted felon.

    The documentary was scheduled for broadcast in the United States on cable outlet Discovery Channel on May 3, 1994.

    However, it was never aired. Proponents of the film claim that it was withdrawn due to political pressure; neither Yorkshire Television nor Discovery Channel commented officially on why it was not aired."

    http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/conspiracy-of-silence/
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  • i4ui4u Posts: 54,804
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    I would think the same thing, really. I don't blame Jones at all if he supected that. From the little I read, the senior executives (and Rippon) were the ones who didn't trust Jones much. The journalists at Newsnight seem to have a much better opinion of him. And, IMO, I already find doubtful the testimony of any senior executive or producer who worked there for years and says something like "I never heard any dark rumour about Savile". It was a quite common rumour at BBC, this is obvious.

    We don't know BBC internal policies, we don't know if an investigation is halted on one show, the person producing it can find another one to broadcast. Maybe it is not a "written law" but an unspoken one. Frankly, if an investigation on something was halted on a show I'm part of, for whatever reason, and I was somehow involved in it's production, I would feel betrayed if they took it to another show in the same network.

    IMO, anyone would think it was a cover-up. Savile was DEAD. If they felt it was a "taste" thing, why not wait a few months.? Why not ask for more witnesses? Savile's revelations would explode sooner and later, the BBC should have bradcasted this story, with or without Jones. Why BBC producers changed the focus of the story of Savile's paedophilia to a police cover-up?

    Helen Boaden and I think Peter Rippon say Merion is an excellent investigative journalist but they suspect him leaking, it doesn't mean they don't respect his work as a journalist.

    Jeremy Paxman agrees Merion Jones is an experienced journalist but his next comment is blanked out.

    Despite some further comments being redacted I think we can work out the gist when Nick Pollard asks..

    Just to go back to the description of investigative journalists generally as always obsessive and often a bit driven and sometimes a bit-- a bit highly strung?

    Nick asks Jeremy how investigative journalists/producers should be handled, part of Jeremy's response is....
    .... they are an obsessive, unusual, people....
    The rest is redacted

    One might accept Merion jumping to conclusions in his mind but without any evidence email various friends asserting certain matters as fact ?

    Bizzarely the Oldie the mazaine that first ran the Newsnight cover up story had one of its contributors arrested for sexual assault following an appearance in the Savile Exposure TV programme.
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    Mark Williams-Thomas: I ran the Savile film like a criminal investigation
    The ex-policeman reveals how he made his RTS-winning documentary – and voices concern over investigative journalism

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/feb/24/mark-williams-thomas-jimmy-savile
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    In answer to the question could Merion Jones have taken the story to Panorama I'd say yes.

    Tom Giles editor of Panorama tells the inquiry he was currently using a Newsnight reporter on an hour long project, so the door was open at Panorama.
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    Mark Williams-Thomas: I ran the Savile film like a criminal investigation
    The ex-policeman reveals how he made his RTS-winning documentary – and voices concern over investigative journalism

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/feb/24/mark-williams-thomas-jimmy-savile

    If you read Merion Jones account in the Pollard Inquiry, Mark Williams-Thomas put himself forward to be the reporter for the Newsnight feature but they already had Liz MacKean.

    Looks like a lot was passed on from Merion to MW-T, it's even suggest someone who contacted Merion in Feb 2012 was passed on to MW-T.

    Maybe Mark should share his RTS award with Merion Jones, Liz MacKean and Hannah Livingston the particularly the latter two who located and contacted various women.
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    I'm going to bet the alleged film of Savile and local councillors dancing around naked at a non-Satanic yet Satanic 'themed' party will fail to turn up. More chance of catching the Loch Ness Monster.
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    Interview with a journalist investigating the Jersey abuse cases
    http://ricosorda.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/pippa-jones-interviews-leah-mcgrath.html
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    i4u wrote: »
    Helen Boaden and I think Peter Rippon say Merion is an excellent investigative journalist but they suspect him leaking, it doesn't mean they don't respect his work as a journalist.

    Jeremy Paxman agrees Merion Jones is an experienced journalist but his next comment is blanked out.

    Despite some further comments being redacted I think we can work out the gist when Nick Pollard asks..

    Just to go back to the description of investigative journalists generally as always obsessive and often a bit driven and sometimes a bit-- a bit highly strung?

    Nick asks Jeremy how investigative journalists/producers should be handled, part of Jeremy's response is....

    The rest is redacted

    One might accept Merion jumping to conclusions in his mind but without any evidence email various friends asserting certain matters as fact ?

    Bizzarely the Oldie the mazaine that first ran the Newsnight cover up story had one of its contributors arrested for sexual assault following an appearance in the Savile Exposure TV programme.

    Paxman also says he trust Merion Jones completely. I get the feeling from the producers and executives that they wanted to say Jones might step over some people to get the story done, and this behaviour is not unusual among investigative journalists, but these type of journalists believe they are doing the right thing.
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    Asmo wrote: »
    I'm going to bet the alleged film of Savile and local councillors dancing around naked at a non-Satanic yet Satanic 'themed' party will fail to turn up. More chance of catching the Loch Ness Monster.

    It seems to me more of a"kinky"party, nothing illegal.
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    i4u wrote: »
    In answer to the question could Merion Jones have taken the story to Panorama I'd say yes.

    Tom Giles editor of Panorama tells the inquiry he was currently using a Newsnight reporter on an hour long project, so the door was open at Panorama.

    One of the testimonies released is very interesting. I'll search for it later, but get the general feeling is that Jones was dejected (I'm paraphrasing) when he knew the story wasn't being broadcast and didn't push it to be released, which is isn't a behaviour of an investigative journalist. Of course, MWT may already be working on the story by that time, but the general feeling I get is that not only not only Merion, but Peter Rippon, were pressured "from above" to stop the investigation and there was no way this story was going to be broadcast by the BBC. Of course, it is only a theory.
    i4u wrote: »
    If you read Merion Jones account in the Pollard Inquiry, Mark Williams-Thomas put himself forward to be the reporter for the Newsnight feature but they already had Liz MacKean.

    Looks like a lot was passed on from Merion to MW-T, it's even suggest someone who contacted Merion in Feb 2012 was passed on to MW-T.

    Maybe Mark should share his RTS award with Merion Jones, Liz MacKean and Hannah Livingston the particularly the latter two who located and contacted various women.

    I agree. Jones was also the one who got in contact with that first witness, Susan.
  • M1010DM1010D Posts: 413
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    Anyone noticing a programme being on tonight regarding a certain celebrity... Interesting...
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    M1010D wrote: »
    Anyone noticing a programme being on tonight regarding a certain celebrity... Interesting...

    Not seen anything, what time and channel?
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    Cliff Richard? ITV3?
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    JIMMY SAVILE 'NAKED IN SATANIC SEX CLUB'

    http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/300538/

    Doncha just lurve the Daily Star?
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    JIMMY SAVILE 'NAKED IN SATANIC SEX CLUB'

    http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/300538/

    Doncha just lurve the Daily Star?

    That photo - my eyes burn :eek::( his eyes don't look real somehow there :confused: weird/disturbing.


    I found this petition via NAPAC, incase anyone here might like to sign it:- https://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/members-of-the-uk-parliament-change-the-law-to-make-councils-responsible-for-abuse-by-foster-parents

    I also spotted this
    How Savile has regurgitated the past for so many who suffered abuse as children or adults me included: See SNOWBLOG: http://bit.ly/YQW4PK

    https://twitter.com/jonsnowC4/statuses/305996411865030656
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    JIMMY SAVILE 'NAKED IN SATANIC SEX CLUB'

    http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/300538/

    Doncha just lurve the Daily Star?

    Anonymous source, always a good sign:
    The Whitby investigator, who has not been named

    I wonder if this was the 'source' though:

    http://www.real-whitby.co.uk/savile-and-other-party-animals
  • ebjeebeebjeebe Posts: 7,810
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    I wonder who H is?
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    Cliff Richard? ITV3?

    No I didn't. Does anyone know his real name?
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    ebjeebe wrote: »
    No I didn't. Does anyone know his real name?

    Harry Webb
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    How many convicted paedophiles have police lost track of in your area? Map shows where 137 have gone missing

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2284129/Revealed-The-map-Britain-shows-convicted-paedophiles-run-area-police-lost-track-them.html#ixzz2LvlipqNI
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    C4's Jon Snow on abuse in newsrooms and his own experience of being abused
    http://blogs.channel4.com/snowblog/sexual-watershed/19876
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    BBC's 1994 documentary about paedophile Peter Righton
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hli-iPilDII&feature=player_embedded
  • ebjeebeebjeebe Posts: 7,810
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    Harry Webb

    Ahhh yes! Thanks for clarifying ;)
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