Twin Peaks
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Just started watching the Gold Box Edition, I forgot how good this show was. I loved Dale Cooper, obviously, but apart from him my favourite character was Audrey. I love the music too, it's making me feel all nostalgic for my teenage years.
Anyone else a fan?
Anyone else a fan?
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Huge fan at the time (even saw the film three times at the cinema and that was dreadful). Just done a rewatch recently - 3 eps to go. I think it still stands up.
I watched the film the other night (I saw it when it came out but couldn't remember much of it) and thought it was pretty bad but I'll watch it again when I've finished the boxset.
Bob still scares the beejesus out of me!
I heard so many bad things about the film though, so I didn't bother with it in the end. And I kind of like to pretend the second season never happened.
As for the film, I remember really enjoying it when it first came out but I saw part of it on telly a few months back and thought it was rubbish.
The film is one of the best horror films ever made, seriously. It's a marmite film, but if you like it, it will likely be one of your favourite films.
But hey, don't take my word for it, watch: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/markkermode/2012/07/film_club_-_twin_peaks_fire_wa.html
Interesting.......
I haven't watched it before. I bought the first season on DVD a few years ago (just the discs, no packaging, £3 from W H Smith), but haven't gotten around to watching it, partly because I didn't want to get to the end of season one and not be able to watch season two. You reckon that I don't really need season two?
Well you do, because Season 2 wraps up the central mystery of Season 1 - and to be fair S2 is still pretty good right up until the mystery is resolved. It's only afterwards that it seems to lose its way.
hmmm I have to say the last episode is frustrating, lot's of running about (i'm trying to avoid spoilers here).
& Windom Earl is far too cheesy at times
I'm about half way through a making of I found on Youtube last night for anyone interested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78HceiccUgI
I think the only plot line which I really dislike is James being framed for the brakes failing.
Wyndham Earle is great, I'll not have a word said against him!
The only thing that did surprise me this run through (again trying not to spoil) is quite how far they string out the Killer Bob reveal.
I have to say I also loved the film FWWM. This and the series have very different tones, the film being alot more dark but still absolutely fantastic storytelling and the characterisation of Laura Palmer imo is one of the best ever in TV or film.
It is however very different from the series, its much darker and more cryptic and really represents the darker side to the town and to Laura's life which is only really alluded too in the series.
Laura's secret diary is a good read too. But understandably its quite horrific.
Thanks, I'll give that a watch!
I found the book quite depressing, although I think I'm a bit of a wuss as a lot of the tv show makes me cry.
I love Dale Cooper. Audrey was good as well. I like Albert as well.
I know that the second series does gets a bit of a knocking, but in some ways I thought it had a slightly stronger storyline than the first season. Maybe that is because the audience were more used to the characters. I know that some things don't seem to work - e.g. James' little trip away from home. Who can forget the ending?
The prequel film is good, but yes, it did seem a bit too self indulgent of Lynch sometimes. It still has its moments though. It is even darker than the TV series and quite bleak at times. A shame that it was a failure.
A truly groundbreaking show for me.
David Lynch has some strange thought processes.
My favourite characters (or characters who’s stories and scenes I liked the most) are
Ben Horne
Bobby Briggs
Leo Johnson
Shelly Johnson
Hank Jennings
I like how Richard Beymer portrays Ben Horne.
“You’re out Ben. You’re out Ben. Ben you are out”.
Hank telling Ben & Jerry about shooting Leo:
“He was chopping wood”
“He was chopping wood? Inside?”
“Yeah. You know Leo”.
Personally I much prefer the last episode of season 1 to the very last episode. What does everyone else think?
I always remember that the opening sequence of the very first ever episode where they found Laura Palmer's body, and how everyone in the town slowly became aware of it, was one of the most genuinely sad television moments i've ever seen.
Given the fact the Black Lodge seemed like it was some sort of representation of hell we should have seen scary demons and disturbing imagery, not just a dancing dwarf that we ere all used to seeing.
It’s a real pity there weren’t further seasons. It would have been good if Frost and Lynch had been able to bring it to a natural conclusion that they wanted. And I liked the mythology they were beginning to build up with aliens and UFO’s somehow being connected to evil spirits in the woods! It was beginning to become a complete head-f*ck like the later Lost. It would have been really interesting to see them build on that.
Interesting angle. Neither myself nor any of the folk I know who liked Twin Peaks ever considered the Black Lodge to be hell or anything like it.
Lynch did what he wanted to do and was hardly involved in the second season at all, from what I've read. Both he and Frost didn't think the Laura Palmer murder should ever have been resolved as that was the main hook.
Thanks. That was just my own personal interpretation.
Do you have an interpretation of what the Black Lodge was?
At it's most basic it's a parallel dimension, the inhabitants of which were worshipped by the native Americans and it was accessed by a weak point between worlds which just happens to be close to Twin Peaks.
Both malevolent and benevolent beings are in there.
It might help that, back in the day, I read (and still own) three of the extended universe books: Laura Palmer's Secret Diary, Agent Cooper's Autobiography and The Access Guide to Twin Peaks... They each give some hints as to what's going on beyond what is seen on screen...
Also, I thought Fire Walk With Me said a lot, and both begins and ends the whole story of Cooper & Palmer etc... or, at least, that specific chapter of their lives.