Hell of a minority view there to be honest. My Tolkien mad friend loved the trilogy and he can recite passages from The Silmarrilion for fun. Some purists have gone on record saying they are disappointed by the lack of Tom Bombadil. I would be very interested to see the benchmark those who think Sir Peter "messed up" use in order to gauge what they personally feel a triumph is. I also feel that one can respect a body of work even if they didn't like it.
I'm definitely looking forward to this, I'm of the opinion that PJ did a good job with the LotR trilogy, but some fans will never be happy unless the movies are exactly like the books, page for page, dialogue and all...
Anyhoo, he did a MUCH better job with the LotR trilogy than they've done with the Harry Potter series.
Yes, messed up. I'm far from being a Tolkien 'purist' but I've read (and thoroughly enjoyed) LotR a number of times - Jackson spectacularly failed to capture the atmosphere and essence of the books. Along the way he also completely messed up some characters and their motivations (such as Faramir).
Now I know that when translating a book to a film you need to make necessary changes, but many of the changes made were totally unnecessary.
I didn't miss Bombadil as such, but I did enjoy that part of the book (well, except for the singing).
I also disliked the look of the films due to choice of lenses, lighting, etc - the look Jackson went for also managed to be the polar opposite of how I imagined it would look.
Overall, for me the films were a failure, but I know that I'm in a tiny minority. I have no hopes for The Hobbit.
Can't wait for this film to arrive. The god thing with filming in MZ again is they get to use the same crew and studios as the LOTR trilogy. Do we know if they are going to reuse the Hobbiton Shire set as I believe it is still standing (could be wrong as I know a lot of the other sets were struck afert filming) ?
Haven't checked through all this thread, but I maybe tempted to watch The Hobbit. I have never seen any of The Lord of The Rings triology, but I am hoping this wont make any difference.
Haven't checked through all this thread, but I maybe tempted to watch The Hobbit. I have never seen any of The Lord of The Rings triology, but I am hoping this wont make any difference.
No, it shouldn't make any difference at all as far as the Hobbit films are concerned seeing as it all precedes the LotR era. I hope that, on watching the Hobbit films, it will encourage you to watch LotR (extended versions, preferably) as you are missing a real treat. They are brilliant films imho.
Crazy looks for Bombur there! It seems James Nesbitt, who's playing Bofur, has one of the more 'normal' non-outlandish looks out of all the Dwarves. That will make his character more relatable compared with those with a ton of prosthetics on and huuuge hair (even though it makes him look more like a man than a Dwarf).
They've released 'hero' shots of most of the dwarfs now. It's all starting to come together. I saw a snippet yesterday that Nick Frost had been cast as a dwarf which I thought rather odd (as all had been cast) but quite interesting, until I realised it was for 'Snow White & the Huntsmen'. That together with The Hobbit and the other Snow White film in production means there's going to be ahelluvalot of dwarf action next year. I must say the seven dwarfs in SW&TH are a mega cast. That said I think Thorin at al could take Sleepy, Doc etc.. any day
Why is it you can't criticize Peter Jackson's LOTR trilogy without being dismissed out of hand.
I enjoyed all three films, but I don't think they were as good as they could have been and a few iconic moment were mishandled - Eowen, Faramir etc.
However, I think that he might do a good job with the Hobbit as it is a simpler story and less indepth. I'm pleased with the casting too. I guess that puts me in the excited camp.
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I think I just wet myself a little.
Anyone else excited about the film????
Messed up? :eek:
Anyhoo, he did a MUCH better job with the LotR trilogy than they've done with the Harry Potter series.
How do you know ? It will not be out for at least another year and a half:eek:
Yes, messed up. I'm far from being a Tolkien 'purist' but I've read (and thoroughly enjoyed) LotR a number of times - Jackson spectacularly failed to capture the atmosphere and essence of the books. Along the way he also completely messed up some characters and their motivations (such as Faramir).
Now I know that when translating a book to a film you need to make necessary changes, but many of the changes made were totally unnecessary.
I didn't miss Bombadil as such, but I did enjoy that part of the book (well, except for the singing).
I also disliked the look of the films due to choice of lenses, lighting, etc - the look Jackson went for also managed to be the polar opposite of how I imagined it would look.
Overall, for me the films were a failure, but I know that I'm in a tiny minority. I have no hopes for The Hobbit.
oh christ i hope they leave that line out
Er...according to Peter Jackson he's Smaug! It was confirmed that Cumberbatch is playing both Smaug and the voice of the Necromancer (aka Sauron).
No, it shouldn't make any difference at all as far as the Hobbit films are concerned seeing as it all precedes the LotR era. I hope that, on watching the Hobbit films, it will encourage you to watch LotR (extended versions, preferably) as you are missing a real treat. They are brilliant films imho.
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Crazy looks for Bombur there! It seems James Nesbitt, who's playing Bofur, has one of the more 'normal' non-outlandish looks out of all the Dwarves. That will make his character more relatable compared with those with a ton of prosthetics on and huuuge hair (even though it makes him look more like a man than a Dwarf).
Can't wait to see Thorin Oakenshield!
I enjoyed all three films, but I don't think they were as good as they could have been and a few iconic moment were mishandled - Eowen, Faramir etc.
However, I think that he might do a good job with the Hobbit as it is a simpler story and less indepth. I'm pleased with the casting too. I guess that puts me in the excited camp.
If you read the books,you can see where he seriously ruined the films.
Tom and Goldberry fans were fuming!
What happened at the ford of Bruinen was shown incorrectly.
I can remember being so irritated with the film I kept saying to my mate "that didn't happen in the book".