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Old 04-07-2008, 17:26
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Because some things don't have to be seen./
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Old 04-07-2008, 17:29
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Because some things don't have to be seen./
but you would show it, hated as she is/was people would want to see her exterminated. Her death scene was almost the same as sarah janes and we know she aint dead. The camera cut away on both as the daleks said exterminate
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Old 04-07-2008, 17:30
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Particularly when it involves a nice, older woman who many viewers hold in great affection sacrificing herself for the sake of the human race.

We saw Rose and Jack get it in series one, but only because they weren't going to stay dead. That nice Lynda with a Y - we didn't see her die, did we?

I accept that Harriet Jones is dead, much as I'd wish her to return and lead in Britain's golden age. I have no need to watch her screaming in agony.
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Old 04-07-2008, 17:31
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but you would show it, hated as she is/was people would want to see her exterminated. Her death scene was almost the same as sarah janes and we know she aint dead. The camera cut away on both as the daleks said exterminate
I don't know where you get the ludicrous idea that Harriet Jones and Sarah Jane are widely hated.

The difference is, in any case, we saw the feed from her house go dead. It made the point well and clearly.
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Old 04-07-2008, 17:34
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Why is Harriet hated? Sarah Jane surely isn't either.

Harriet sacrificed herself to get the Doctor and all the people close to him in contact, it was a good end for her and made up for the way she was treated in TCI.
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Old 04-07-2008, 17:34
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I don't know where you get the ludicrous idea that Harriet Jones and Sarah Jane are widely hated.

The difference is, in any case, we saw the feed from her house go dead. It made the point well and clearly.
didnt say sarah jane was hated, ok in harriet jone's case hated prob wasnt the right word to use, annoying would be better, il just wait but i still think we might see harriet jones tomorrow night
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Old 04-07-2008, 19:54
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How do all

1st post in this section of the forum, i'm loving doctor who atm, and i have a theory that harriet jones is not dead.

I have not seen anyone post this , but when the daleks went to exterminate harriet, we all presume that she is dead but just before the middle dalek fires he/is moves the gun to the right, and the feed cuts off to the others on the subwave network.

So my theory is that the daleks destroyed the computer(s) that harriet was using, and according to imdb she is in the finale of this season! Sorry if that has been posted btw
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Old 04-07-2008, 20:00
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WHAT PART OF EXTERMINATE DO PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND
WHEN THE DALEKS WANT SOMEONE DEAD THEY KILL THEM
THEY DO NOT JUST SHOOT THEIR COMMUNICATION SYSTEM

DEAD







DEAD
















DEAD
























































DEAD


im gonna feel stupid if shes in it tommorrow arent i?
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Old 04-07-2008, 20:12
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WHAT PART OF EXTERMINATE DO PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND
WHEN THE DALEKS WANT SOMEONE DEAD THEY KILL THEM
THEY DO NOT JUST SHOOT THEIR COMMUNICATION SYSTEM

DEAD







DEAD
















DEAD
























































DEAD


im gonna feel stupid if shes in it tommorrow arent i?
Yes.
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Old 04-07-2008, 20:55
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but you would show it, hated as she is/was people would want to see her exterminated. Her death scene was almost the same as sarah janes and we know she aint dead. The camera cut away on both as the daleks said exterminate
Maybe you are right that she is still alive, but I disagree with your reasoning as to why, that they would have shown it. It has been a convention in sci-fi and horror that what you don't show has more impact than showing it. DW has done this many times over the years. The companion katarina was killed off screen, we just heard her final scream. Even Davros was killed off screen in Genesis, and that was long before the writer of Destiny decided he was still alive.

It is a horrific moment for a character to be killed off, so by not showing it it has more impact. The way the screen turns fuzzy is symbolic of her life coming to an end.

The Sarah Jane moment was done in that way because it was part of the cliffhanger, the Harriet situation is different.

Personally I think Harriet is brown bread. Her function was to bring the companions together, she has done her bit. If you saw the interview with RTD, you'd get the impression as I did that there is going to be so much happening tomorrow, that I don't think there would be time to revisit Harriet.
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Old 04-07-2008, 21:51
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Lynda with a 'Y' isn't dead.....I saw her on Eastenders yesterday......it's a conspiracy I tell you!!!
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Old 04-07-2008, 21:54
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Watching it again tonight I would have to say that the last dalek to be seen in the Harriet clip does move as if to exterminate the computer rather than Ms Jones. Its all a conspiracy.
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Old 05-07-2008, 00:49
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Watching it again tonight I would have to say that the last dalek to be seen in the Harriet clip does move as if to exterminate the computer rather than Ms Jones. Its all a conspiracy.
Aye either they just shot the PC and took her or one Dalek shot the PC and the others shot her.
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Old 05-07-2008, 09:19
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I'll get my coat if you like, but...
I watched the 2 eps on 3 last night & HJ isn't holding up a passport, she's holding a black plastic folder with 2 pieces of paper which aren't quite straight which look like passport type pages.

What does the psychic paper ID holder look like?

The Daleks say 'we know who you are' - is that a bit of comedy or do they really know who they're talking to, and it's not really HJ.

Is the Master back?

HJ is instrumental in bringing the doc into the conflict zone - it's not only the 'children of time' who want him back is it?

Her scheme also exposed all the docs friends, apart from Rose who is supposed lost.

I'll be so glad when we've got a few answers!! (but I don't expect them all )
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Old 05-07-2008, 10:16
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In this interview, RTD said she is dead:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=sW6afFPmRsA
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Old 05-07-2008, 10:20
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Certainly not to any of your questions because they've been answered, you just aren't accepting the truth of what you saw. That WAS Harriet Jones, every word she said was true and heartfelt. She is not the Master, she was NOT using psychic paper nor would she need to use fake ID of any kind because even if she were some kind of imposter EVERYONE already knows who Harriet Jones is. THAT's the joke. At this stage of her life it's like going around saying England saying "David Beckham, footballer."
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Old 05-07-2008, 21:28
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I have to admit, there was one bit tonight that made me think Harriet was gong to pop up, but I am glad she didn't and she died a heroes death.


















Or did she.
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Old 05-07-2008, 22:18
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Where psychic paper has been used before its been blank for us
Blank you say? Hmmm
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