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Old 28-11-2008, 21:40
shirleywhite
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Finally got my system working today after a week of no service. But had some trouble rebooting modem/router/computers in various orders to force renewing or new dhcp ip addresses etc. Eventually both wired and wireless connections are working and seem fairly stable!!

But now I'm wondering if best to leave both modem and router on overnight? ( ignoring the non-green energy use issue) Or should I switch off router ( but leave modem - which is what I was doing before) Or both off? and is there a preferred order of switch on etc. Appreciate any advice?! Thanks.
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Old 28-11-2008, 21:45
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Leave them both on, makes no difference if we switch things off or not they have now found out.

To solve issues leave them both on
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Old 28-11-2008, 21:55
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I can't even turn my router off, there is no switch and it loses all the settings if I do - not helpful.

As my modem is in another room from my laptop(s), it is annoying having to turn the modem off then forgetting that you have done so you have to go into the other room to switch it back on.

Didn't make sense? - Leave both on!
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Old 28-11-2008, 21:59
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Thanks Kielliam for reply. A tiny thought was that a permanently on wireless router would give an unscrupulous neighbour more time to crack the security/encryption!! (LOL) ( only semi-serious!!)

Presume all the "ip renewal/release" thingie just happens automatically - I cant remember what setting I ended up with on the router - I think it was "daily" as the "lease length" or whatever??

Whenever there's any network probs the virgin tech support always say "unplug modem" as a means of resetting/clearing etc - so I just wondered if starting "afresh" ever morning might be a good thing??
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Old 29-11-2008, 10:52
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I always turn both router and modem off at night with no problem whatsoever.
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Old 29-11-2008, 11:30
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I always turn both router and modem off at night with no problem whatsoever.
Yes i agree sometimes turning them both off gives no problems whatsoever but do you really want to turn it on and off everytime you want to access the internet

I do turn it off for around 10mins every 30 days just so it refreshes some settings
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Old 01-12-2008, 01:10
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A tiny thought was that a permanently on wireless router would give an unscrupulous neighbour more time to crack the security/encryption!! (LOL) ( only semi-serious!!)
You're actually dead right - nothing semi-serious about this. The best protection against being a wifi-jacking victim is to switch off your router when you're not using it. Cracking WEP is easy. Any idiot with a laptop and Google can do it. But it takes a few hours. A free always-on connection is asking for trouble. But no-one's going to bother cracking a connection which only appears on the airwaves for short, unpredictable periods. Do a wireless network scan at different times of the day for a while and, if you're in a busy street, you'll probably find some names come and go, and some names are always there. Now, if you're a wifi pirate, which are you going to try to break into?
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Old 01-12-2008, 09:10
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Thanks for replies folks! Appreciate your point Alan re cracking WEP. How much safer is WPA2 ( which is what I use??)

Also - when I do a "view all networks" I get four other neighbours as well as mine. 3 use wpa/wpa2 - one is an unsecured network called "Netgear" !! ( Have a small confession here - when my connection disappeared last week I (inadvertently !! ) connected through "Netgear" and checked the Virgin status pages to see if it was an area wide fault!

Regards to all.
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Old 01-12-2008, 22:53
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My router's been on 24/7 for the last few years (with WPA-PSK [TKIP] encryption though ) and I have never had a problem with un-authorised access.
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Old 01-12-2008, 23:38
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Thanks for replies folks! Appreciate your point Alan re cracking WEP. How much safer is WPA2 ( which is what I use??)
WPA in all its forms is more secure than WEP, because it was specifically created to overcome some of the weaknesses in the earlier WEP standard. WPA2 is even stronger, and the only reason not to use it is if some equipment you want to connect doesn't support it. But it's still crackable, in every case, given enough time. So I still say switch off. If you do this, your risk is really very minimal - no sleepless nights!

My router's been on 24/7 for the last few years (with WPA-PSK [TKIP] encryption though ) and I have never had a problem with un-authorised access.
Indeed, I don't doubt it. But that doesn't really prove anything. I'm talking about risk minimization and theoretical dangers. If you think it's worth it, just for the convenience of not having to flick a switch, then leave your router on.

Of course, the likely risk also hugely depends on where you are: secluded country houses are less prone to wifi-jackers than city-centre streets full of flats, students, passing vehicles etc. etc.. Just thought I'd state the obvious!
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Old 02-12-2008, 03:03
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The amount of electricity a modem and router use is negligable really.
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Old 06-12-2008, 10:48
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I always turn both router and modem off at night with no problem whatsoever.
Same here..

No problems whatsoever...

Being paranoid it makes me feel more secure..
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Old 06-12-2008, 12:20
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The amount of electricity a modem and router use is negligable really.
Indeed just like the amount phone chargers use when left plugged in. However lets multiply negligable by the number in use in the country. I wounder how much power is been wasted for the sake of clicking a switch.
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Old 07-12-2008, 10:11
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Hi there, wonder if you guys can assist, the request relates to this topic as I turn my modem (SB4000 Motorola) off over night along with all my other IT equipment.

When I come to turn the equipmet on in the morning it takes 5 to 10 minutes for the Send / Receive lights to settle down, the "Activity light remains steady" after that the modem runs fine for the rest of the day. The offshore call centre advise that there is a problem, on the line that causes that, but im not convinced as the Motorola website advises that if im getting a Send / Receive light issue, there is a problem with the equipment ?

Can anyone confirm or has experienced this issue.
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Old 07-12-2008, 19:18
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I don't see any point turning them off. You are likely to reduce the life span of equipment by turning things on and off every day.
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Old 07-12-2008, 21:58
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I don't see any point turning them off. You are likely to reduce the life span of equipment by turning things on and off every day.
True, the expansion and shrinking of electrical comonents due to cooling then reheating ruduces its lifespan more than just leaving the thing on.
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Old 08-12-2008, 09:02
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I don't see any point turning them off. You are likely to reduce the life span of equipment by turning things on and off every day.
With today's low voltage, low power, components in routers and modems, I can't really see it as a problem. My modem has been running years off and on without any problem.

Even the TV has been switched off every day for donkey's yonks without a problem.
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Old 09-12-2008, 14:40
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I always switch everything possible off in my house, bills are high enough without me being lazy. On the safety side all my friends say I'm paranoid cos I switch the modem & router off when I'm not using it, I also lock all the doors and windows when I go out, I say it's only paranoia until something happens...
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