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Old 05-03-2009, 11:38
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If so is it true that that would stop you getting certain jobs - i.e teacher or nurse etc?
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Old 05-03-2009, 11:40
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It does go on your criminal record. Not sure if those jobs would preclude you as a result though.
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Old 05-03-2009, 11:42
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Err, yep of course you will and it will effect your career prospects too

http://www.staffordshire.police.uk/a.../drink_driving


I found this one too

http://ioewebserver.ioe.ac.uk/ioe/cm...5&1605_0=18292
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Old 05-03-2009, 11:43
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Yup, and so it should ! Although it shouldn't affect jobs such as teaching and nursing, as they are more interested here when they do criminal checks, with violent crimes/fraud/crimes against children/etc. .
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Old 05-03-2009, 11:45
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Yes as you would be breaking the law.
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Old 05-03-2009, 11:45
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To be honest, I can't see an LEA nor an NHS Trust awarding a position of great responsibility to someone who recklessly endangered the lives of others.
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Old 05-03-2009, 11:46
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blimey - I never knew all that.

I know someone who used to be a supply teacher and then they got banned for drink driving and I always wondered why they never went back to it.

Now I know.

Soooooo not worth it - such a stupid thing to do.

I am shocked at how many people still do it too.
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Old 05-03-2009, 12:04
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Yes it gives you a criminal record.

Doesn't automatically exclude you from teaching/healthcare jobs, you just have to provide an enhanced disclosure for them.....but that simply means they will know every dealing you've had with the police from conviction to caution to arrest wether a conviction was forthcoming or not...

you'd have to disclose drink-driving for ANY job within 5 years of the offence, not just the ones you mentioned.

After 5 years the conviction is 'spent' and is no longer required to be disclosed in normal CRB checks.
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Old 05-03-2009, 12:06
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Yes as you would be breaking the law.
Would you get a criminal record for speeding too, as that's breaking the law too?
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Old 05-03-2009, 12:10
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Would you get a criminal record for speeding too, as that's breaking the law too?
No, because its a non-recordable offence (I believe)
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Old 05-03-2009, 12:12
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why the hell did you think otherwise
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Old 05-03-2009, 12:13
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No, because its a non-recordable offence (I believe)
That's what I thought. mildredhubble's "Yes as you would be breaking the law" soundbite seemed a bit too black and white for me.

How do criminal convictions like drink driving affect travel to places like America out of interest? I know they're quite strict about who to let in. Out of interest - I'd never drink drive.
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Old 05-03-2009, 12:33
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Yes it gives you a criminal record.

Doesn't automatically exclude you from teaching/healthcare jobs, you just have to provide an enhanced disclosure for them.....but that simply means they will know every dealing you've had with the police from conviction to caution to arrest wether a conviction was forthcoming or not...

you'd have to disclose drink-driving for ANY job within 5 years of the offence, not just the ones you mentioned.

After 5 years the conviction is 'spent' and is no longer required to be disclosed in normal CRB checks.
For teaching you have to have an Enhanced CRB check anyway. It will show up ANY dealing you have had with the police, not just in the last 5 years. People have been prevented from entering teacher training as mature adults because of a very minor silly thing they may have been arrested and cautioned for at 14.

My guess is if you have been convicted of drink driving then you would not be teaching again. I suspect you would be hauled in front of that silly quango the agency that oversees teachers. I've totally forgotten the name of at the minute, where you would be publicly humiliated by having your details posted on the Internet and banned from teaching for a length of time.
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Old 05-03-2009, 12:42
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Yeah, I said that...

I dont think you would be prevented from teaching or healthcare jobs over an old drink driving conviction.
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:42
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There was a case a couple of years ago of a student who got a fine for putting her feet on the seat on a train. She fought the fine in court because there was some idea that it would stop her being able to work as a teacher. If so, that's a terribly high standard to set!
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Old 06-03-2009, 11:48
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There was a case a couple of years ago of a student who got a fine for putting her feet on the seat on a train. She fought the fine in court because there was some idea that it would stop her being able to work as a teacher. If so, that's a terribly high standard to set!
There is a difference between being fined for some offences and being convicted of a criminal offence.

Offences such as speeding, littering, parking on yellow lines, obstruction, contravening traffic signals etc are not recordable offences, so you would not get a criminal record.

Even if you were to be arrested for one of these offences (in the very rare circumstances that apply) you would still not get a criminal record, and neither would the police have the power to require your fingerprints/DNA/photograph etc - although you would get a police record, which is something entirely different.
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Old 07-03-2009, 01:58
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There is a difference between being fined for some offences and being convicted of a criminal offence.

Offences such as speeding, littering, parking on yellow lines, obstruction, contravening traffic signals etc are not recordable offences, so you would not get a criminal record.

Even if you were to be arrested for one of these offences (in the very rare circumstances that apply) you would still not get a criminal record, and neither would the police have the power to require your fingerprints/DNA/photograph etc - although you would get a police record, which is something entirely different.
Thanks, that's what I would have thought.

Would these offences come up on the kind of through check used for people working with children though?
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Old 08-03-2009, 05:17
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I have a drink drive conviction and I'm a student nurse, so it will not neccesarily stop you been a nurse or teacher.
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