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Old 08-03-2009, 11:03
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depends really i wouldnt support say someone who abused a child or something

its a grey area though cos with rnb you can pretty much boycott the whole genre due to crime cos they all work with each other sing produce etc. its like t.i. with gun crime you could boycott for that but then rihanna and justin have both had recent hits with him therefore supported and made money after he was found guilty so you could boycott them for that
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Old 08-03-2009, 11:29
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I'm not sure..it depends on what they've done really.

I'm thinking of boycotting Chris Brown though after seeing those pictures of Rihanna.
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Old 08-03-2009, 12:43
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Anybody can make mistakes and some do really stupid things, but as long as they learn from it and become better persons and regretting what they did, I don't hold it against them.

Drugs however I do not support and it's true that it is the artists business but I don't want to contribute any money to that industry which kills millions of kids every year.
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Old 08-03-2009, 12:53
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I am really getting sick and tired of people defending Wacko Jacko....there is no defense and who cares if he was once a great entertainer?...how in God's name does that matter now? At least read all these links before you reply to this....because I am going to seriously ask all of you who defend him and worship him....how can you?

Do some research online on what was taken from Neverland prior to the criminal trial....and of course....it probably pales into comparision to what was moved out of there as they knew the search warrant was coming...

Since Diane was in the court room everyday of this trial....and covered it for CNN and COURT TV...I think you can trust this is real...

http://www.courttv.com/news/jackson/...imond_ctv.html

As part of the evidence to show attraction to boys, the prosecution introduced two books featuring nude prepubescent boys. The books were seized from Jackson in 1993 and never returned...... They were child erotica or pornography..... showing a sexual attraction to boys....or so the prosecution portrayed them....why the hell else would he have them?

One book, "The Boy: A photographic Essay"..... features many pictures of nude boys....... including some explicit pictures of genitalia.

In February of 2005....the Smoking gun somehow published the official and genuine pre-trial transcript of the grand jury....the court admitted it was real and wondered where they got it....the Grand Jury was a big secret with jurors often being snuck in under blankets...the court itself claims the SMOKING GUN got the real evidence....so how do you dispute that?

Now look at what some of the jurors thought after the criminal trial...

http://www.courttv.com/trials/jackso...regret_ap.html

http://www.courttv.com/trials/jackso..._juror_ap.html

Here you go....sounds like a guy you should let your young son hang-out with...

http://www.courttv.com/news/jackson/...rints_cnn.html

http://www.courttv.com/news/jackson/...atric_ctv.html

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/010605jackson.html

http://www.courttv.com/trials/jackson/021105_ap.html
How do I dispute it? I've said and I'll say again I want court docs. Not links to websites. In the CB RiRi case I presented court docs to back my information up. You can give as many ''smoking gun'', ''court t.v'' links, as you like but I want court docs that MJ did this or was alleged to do it.
Until I see court docs, not smoking gun articles then your case will be valid.
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Old 08-03-2009, 13:01
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You seem avid in trying to catch me out. While writing my first post I thought about KW, and research the ''racist claims'' and realised I could no longer support someone who supported racism. I just, thought to look it up as I was typing my first post up. Happy now?
Who's KW? Kanye West? Cos the only other one I can think of is Kim Wilde and I'll assume it's not her being talked about.
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Old 08-03-2009, 13:06
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Who's KW? Kanye West? Cos the only other one I can think of is Kim Wilde and I'll assume it's not her being talked about.
Kanye West.
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Old 08-03-2009, 13:08
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Who's KW? Kanye West? Cos the only other one I can think of is Kim Wilde and I'll assume it's not her being talked about.
Kenneth Williams. Ooooo Matron!
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Old 08-03-2009, 13:08
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Thought so, and he supports racism? Any links?
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Old 08-03-2009, 13:10
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Old 08-03-2009, 16:26
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Go online....and you can find the information about WACKO JAKCO and what was removed from Neverland....are you lazy or do you just not want to see it???

Court TV was in the courtroom for every minute of that case and has included everything that happened from the beginning to the end...and I doubt you were in the courtroom or know the details...

I am only saying one thing is factual...he had child pornography otherwise known as child erotica in his home that was found and introduced as evidence....that's all I need to know about him to not want to see his face or hear his music or shamelessly waste my money on him.....it's all there...do your own research and draw your own conclusions...

I even posted the psychiatric report on WACKO JACKO'S FIRST KNOWN VICTIM way back in the early 90's....and since he was paid off by several million.....you should have a few doubts about WACKO JACKO yourself.....most celebrities don't give in to blackmailers or extortionists...

Case in point.....John Travolta...who was asked for millions for a photograph of his dying son in the Bahamas.....he like most celebrities did not pay the money and he got the culprits arrested....

If this was extortion.....Michael Jackson would not have made a huge pay off in my opinion and be aware.....Jordy Chandler's family is quite wealthy and his biological Father is a very famous Beverly Hills dentist who is worth millions....this was not a family who needed the money...

You can keep worshipping this pervert and getting all excited about him or you can actually do your own research and figure out what many already know.....people who prey on children.....are the scum of the earth but keep on believing he's Peter Pan....he probably still does...
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Old 08-03-2009, 16:48
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Old 08-03-2009, 16:56
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its a grey area though cos with rnb you can pretty much boycott the whole genre due to crime cos they all work with each other sing produce etc. its like t.i. with gun crime you could boycott for that but then rihanna and justin have both had recent hits with him therefore supported and made money after he was found guilty so you could boycott them for that
It's tricky when it's just one person you are considering boycotting who is connected with a whole load of "innocent" people whose work you like.

On the subject of James Brown, I wouldn't buy any of his music, but his brief appearance in The Blues Brothers doesn't stop me from thinking it's a fantastic film and he's definitely not going to suffer from me refusing to watch it.
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Old 08-03-2009, 17:20
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Go online....and you can find the information about WACKO JAKCO and what was removed from Neverland....are you lazy or do you just not want to see it???

Court TV was in the courtroom for every minute of that case and has included everything that happened from the beginning to the end...and I doubt you were in the courtroom or know the details...

I am only saying one thing is factual...he had child pornography otherwise known as child erotica in his home that was found and introduced as evidence....that's all I need to know about him to not want to see his face or hear his music or shamelessly waste my money on him.....it's all there...do your own research and draw your own conclusions...

I even posted the psychiatric report on WACKO JACKO'S FIRST KNOWN VICTIM way back in the early 90's....and since he was paid off by several million.....you should have a few doubts about WACKO JACKO yourself.....most celebrities don't give in to blackmailers or extortionists...

Case in point.....John Travolta...who was asked for millions for a photograph of his dying son in the Bahamas.....he like most celebrities did not pay the money and he got the culprits arrested....

If this was extortion.....Michael Jackson would not have made a huge pay off in my opinion and be aware.....Jordy Chandler's family is quite wealthy and his biological coul Father is a very famous Beverly Hills dentist who is worth millions....this was not a family who needed the money...

You can keep worshipping this pervert and getting all excited about him or you can actually do your own research and figure out what many already know.....people who prey on children.....are the scum of the earth but keep on believing he's Peter Pan....he probably still does...
You presented the case, you show US the facts A.K.A Court Docs you give me those, and I'll consider boycotting MJ.
Court T.V could have followed MJ, around for all I care until they produce evidence i.e Court Docs saying you claim is ''factual'' then I'll consider them a reliable source.
Also were is this ''psychiatric'' report you've posted? I'd love to see it. And I hope it's not some article.
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Old 08-03-2009, 17:21
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I am only saying one thing is factual...he had child pornography otherwise known as child erotica in his home that was found and introduced as evidence....
But if he had child porn that would warrant a separate charge as well what he went on trial for. If they found that at his home why wasn't he convicted of possession of child pornography (let alone charged)?
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Old 08-03-2009, 17:23
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But if he had child porn that would warrant a separate charge as well what he went on trial for. If they found that at his home why wasn't he convicted of possession of child pornography (let alone charged)?
Exactly.
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Old 08-03-2009, 17:28
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But if he had child porn that would warrant a separate charge as well what he went on trial for. If they found that at his home why wasn't he convicted of possession of child pornography (let alone charged)?
Maybe it's because he's Micheal Jackson! same way O.J Simpson didn't get found guilty.

Im not completely sure about him being guilty or not..but he's been accused so many times! but that could just be people jumping on the bandwagon as well.
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Old 08-03-2009, 18:14
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But if he had child porn that would warrant a separate charge as well what he went on trial for. If they found that at his home why wasn't he convicted of possession of child pornography (let alone charged)?
If I remember correctly, it was never proved the people in the porn mags were underage, they looked young but it was never proved they were underage. I think that if they were underage MJ would have definitely been charged with possession child pornography.
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Old 08-03-2009, 18:15
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Maybe it's because he's Micheal Jackson! same way O.J Simpson didn't get found guilty.
OJ Simpson was found not guilty by a jury...this person is saying there was child porn removed from Michael Jackson's home, yet he never faced any charges for it. It's somewhat different.
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Old 08-03-2009, 18:18
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OJ Simpson was found not guilty by a jury...this person is saying there was child porn removed from Michael Jackson's home, yet he never faced any charges for it. It's somewhat different.
Ok..what I was trying to say is sometimes when people are famous they get away with things.
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Old 08-03-2009, 18:21
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Gary Gliters songs havent got any worse. Michael Jackson might not be whiter than white (see what i did there?) but he still wrote great tunes. OJ Simpson will always be a great sportsman.

People have to seperate what people have done professionally from what they do privately.
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Old 08-03-2009, 18:23
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Maybe it's because he's Micheal Jackson! same way O.J Simpson didn't get found guilty.

Im not completely sure about him being guilty or not..but he's been accused so many times! but that could just be people jumping on the bandwagon as well.
IMO both families were looking for money, why else would they be more interested in MJ paying them a big sum of money instead of doing whatever they could to put him behind bars? No money would ever shut me up if my son was molested but both families were quite happy to keep it quiet in exchange for a few millions.
The latest case, the mom even went for waxing and other beauty treatments right after her son told her about the sexual abuse, and they also lied about that same kid having cancer just to get money off celebs.
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Old 08-03-2009, 18:39
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BOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's quite a convincing argument you've formulated there.
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Old 08-03-2009, 18:45
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Was Michael Jackson Framed? - GQ Magazine, published October 1994

settlement details at the end of the article.
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Old 08-03-2009, 18:48
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Go boycott whoever you want people. HAve t it. BUt I tell you what, everyday, you will find out, that youve been loving the music of someone who did some dodgy things. Things that you dodnt know will come up, thiings that happened in the past present , future. So good luck, I hope you do a lot of research, and make sure you check all the connections and the life story of artists that you listen to.

I, however, coudnt care less about the personal lives of musicians, or even sports teams that I follow. BEcause I listen to music for the pleasure (meaning for the pure enjoyment of the music, not for the adoration of the person). And yeah, make sure you check the criminal background of all athletes in the sports that you watch, and teams you support as well. Good luck with that.
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Old 08-03-2009, 20:33
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Well, when he makes his next fortune and starts having kids round for sleepovers in his bedroom again, the one with the special alarm, people will no doubt overlook it because the music is good.
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