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Old 27-07-2009, 17:02
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Not completely uncut. There's an exchange between grumpy residents in the towers which is truncated.
"Don't worry about him. They put all the jerks in Tower One."

I'd imagine the culture of taking a pair of scissors to anything remotely contentious in The Simpsons is not really going to improve any time soon, what with the story-hungry tabloids itching for the latest "NEW TV SCANDAL". It's already got to the point where "Man off telly says nasty thing about Prime Minister" is considered a news story again, as if Harold Macmillan was still in power, for flip's sake.

There used to be a brilliant site called The Snipsons, which kept a log of all the cuts made to the various episodes. It's mostly still available at http://web.archive.org/web/200106082...uk/page11.html . For example, Sky used to cut out the part of the episode "El Viaje Misterioso de Nuestro Jomer" (i.e. the chilli eating contest) where Homer drank the candle wax, pretty much rendering the subsequent scene pretty odd.
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Old 27-07-2009, 17:09
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The snapshot of The Snipsons also makes the entertaining point that, while Sky One had refused point blank (pun intended) to show The Cartridge Family (at least up 'til that point), when it was finally released on VHS as part of the "Too Hot For TV" set, the BBFC considered all the gun and violence-based carnage to be worthy of... which certificate? 12? 15? 18? No, PG.
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Old 27-07-2009, 17:21
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Channel four are a disgrace for doing this, RTE show the show at the exact same time and there hasn't been one scene that has ever been edited, so why does channel four do this are they being made ofcom or are they doing this by choice.
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Old 27-07-2009, 17:30
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There used to be a brilliant site called The Snipsons, which kept a log of all the cuts made to the various episodes. It's mostly still available at http://web.archive.org/web/200106082...uk/page11.html . For example, Sky used to cut out the part of the episode "El Viaje Misterioso de Nuestro Jomer" (i.e. the chilli eating contest) where Homer drank the candle wax, pretty much rendering the subsequent scene pretty odd.
This is also a great site for an archive.
http://snpp.com
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Old 27-07-2009, 18:50
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I used to have that Too Hot for TV VHS and before the handgun episode it said "Not to be shown on UK TV before January 1 2000"
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Old 27-07-2009, 19:02
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Friends, Scrubs, The Simpsons. What is next, The Gilmore Girls??
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Old 27-07-2009, 19:28
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Friends, Scrubs, The Simpsons. What is next, The Gilmore Girls??
I've almost gave up watching friends (about time maybe lol) because of the editing. Extra bits are being cut out with each rerun. Nothings more annoying than hearing the laughter, but not the joke.

The Simpsons is going the same way. Within the next couple of years C4 with have both The Simpsons and Friends cut down to 15 minute shows.
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Old 27-07-2009, 19:39
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I'm very offended by this title. I knew someone who was raped and it's very inappropriate here.
It's interesting how 'rape' is considered a controversial word in this context, I wondered about this after Alan Pardew used it on MOTD2 to describe Michael Essien taking the ball off someone.

a) it's fair usage by definition (from Dictionary.com): an act of plunder, violent seizure, or abuse; despoliation; violation: the rape of the countryside.

and b) you never see any complaints about similar use of the word 'murder'.
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Old 27-07-2009, 19:51
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This is also a great site for an archive.
http://snpp.com
Good for more than archives, that site just showed me what the season 12 DVD boxset will look like - due out in the US in three weeks.
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Old 27-07-2009, 20:00
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Friends, Scrubs, The Simpsons. What is next, The Gilmore Girls??
There's already cuts in The Gilmor Girls. When Luke first meets TJ he is such a arse that Tj ends up calling Luke a 'dick'.

Not for UK ears though.
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Old 27-07-2009, 20:18
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It's interesting how 'rape' is considered a controversial word in this context, I wondered about this after Alan Pardew used it on MOTD2 to describe Michael Essien taking the ball off someone.
Yes, it is interesting. Pardew had to issue a public apology over the comment (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...t-apology-motd) but nobody bats an eyelid at "I could murder a cheeseburger"

But the fact is that a very large number of people find this usage of "rape" to be unacceptable. I would like to think of myself as very open minded when it comes to language but even I don't like it. I don't know where the line is, but this crosses it.
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Old 27-07-2009, 20:39
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Just watched Bart's Dog Gets an F, which was on yesterday.

Unsurprisingly, they cut "You son of a bitch. Good show!" to just the last two words.
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Old 27-07-2009, 21:51
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There's already cuts in The Gilmor Girls. When Luke first meets TJ he is such a arse that Tj ends up calling Luke a 'dick'.

Not for UK ears though.
I never noticed that! Thank god I stick to the dvd's now!
and to think Channel 4 were once semi-fearless.
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Old 27-07-2009, 22:01
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Funny quote from one of last week's simpsons.
'Haha distracted, that's a funny word. i wonder if anyone ever gets tracted, i'll phone the suicide helpline & find out' Or something like that.
Okay, i don't fully get it but it was funny
I hardly ever watch the simpsons now
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Old 27-07-2009, 22:20
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Yes, it is interesting. Pardew had to issue a public apology over the comment (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...t-apology-motd) but nobody bats an eyelid at "I could murder a cheeseburger"

But the fact is that a very large number of people find this usage of "rape" to be unacceptable. I would like to think of myself as very open minded when it comes to language but even I don't like it. I don't know where the line is, but this crosses it.
Yes I agree, this crosses the line. The thing is, if you have been murdered, then someone saying "murder a cheesburger" isn't going to come back to disturb you. You're dead. However, if you survive being raped, then all this out of context use of "rape this rape that" is going to cause offence and hurt. Real hurt.
Like I said, I've luckliy not been raped, but I know someone who has, and it broke my heart when she told me about it.
I don't get offended easily about anything, but this thread's title offends me. It's just so stupid and inappropriate and horrible. It makes me so sad.
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Old 27-07-2009, 22:24
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a) it's fair usage by definition (from Dictionary.com): an act of plunder, violent seizure, or abuse; despoliation; violation: [i]the rape of the countryside. .........
Cheesebugers and the countryside are all things, not people. Now I know the Simpsons are not real people, but the offence is when the word is wrongly applied to a person or people. I hate it when kids say "We got raped" for example on the XBox360. Horrible.
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Old 28-07-2009, 03:07
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Yes I agree, this crosses the line. The thing is, if you have been murdered, then someone saying "murder a cheesburger" isn't going to come back to disturb you. You're dead. However, if you survive being raped, then all this out of context use of "rape this rape that" is going to cause offence and hurt. Real hurt.
Like I said, I've luckliy not been raped, but I know someone who has, and it broke my heart when she told me about it.
I don't get offended easily about anything, but this thread's title offends me. It's just so stupid and inappropriate and horrible. It makes me so sad.
So what if you attempt to murder a cheeseburger?
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Old 28-07-2009, 09:32
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Yes I agree, this crosses the line. The thing is, if you have been murdered, then someone saying "murder a cheesburger" isn't going to come back to disturb you. You're dead. However, if you survive being raped, then all this out of context use of "rape this rape that" is going to cause offence and hurt. Real hurt.
Like I said, I've luckliy not been raped, but I know someone who has, and it broke my heart when she told me about it.
I don't get offended easily about anything, but this thread's title offends me. It's just so stupid and inappropriate and horrible. It makes me so sad.
Sorry, but that is a contradiction.
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Old 28-07-2009, 10:03
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Yes it is, sorry. Almost nothing offends me I should have said.

I complained about this thread's title but DS didn't do anything about it.
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Old 28-07-2009, 10:07
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Earlier today they showed the episode where Santa's Little Helper had to learn to behave or they would get rid of him. Two memorable-ish scenes were totally ruined.

1. When Marge shows Lisa how to sew, she burns her finger with a lighter. This was edited out yet the sound of the lighter being lit was left in.

2. PULL THE BLOODY CHAIN, BOY!!!! was edited to PULL THE BL-CHAIN BOY!!!


Disgraceful.
...Are you entirely serious?

Channel 4 air it at 6 in the evening. Prime time, which, as much as I am an advocate of frees peech, wouldn't want my kids to pick up bad vocal habits from a TV show, or to get curious about lighters, especially after all the channels collectively put so much hard work into educating our children as to why you should never play with matches, and that importantly, they hurt.

If you'd bothered to research it a little, you'd know that channel 4 also air the simpsons late night.
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Old 28-07-2009, 10:10
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Just watched Bart's Dog Gets an F, which was on yesterday.

Unsurprisingly, they cut "You son of a bitch. Good show!" to just the last two words.
But a bitch is just a girl dog, so Santa's Little Helper is indeed a son of a bitch! No need to edit that out. Stupid censors.
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Old 28-07-2009, 13:04
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Another recent cut was on the episode where Marge had written a novel and got it published. Apu was talking to Homer about the book and once he left, he said 'this is how you talk when you learn English from Porno movies' was cut.
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Old 28-07-2009, 13:15
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For some reason I'm not bothered by someone saying 'The show's been murdered', but I think 'The show's been raped' is a bit more graphic and unpleasant. I don't know why. However, I wasn't offended by the thread title.

However, if someone said 'I could rape a cheeseburger' then I would think they were being unnecessarily unpleasant. I wouldn't try to censor their speech, but I wouldn't like it either. Perhaps it's because murder is a bit more abstract and non-specific (ie what method), whereas rape is a pretty clear cut concept.

If someone says 'Jeez, I could kill you for that', it sounds like a joke. If you said 'you deserve to be raped for that!', it comes across much more as bad taste. I

magine if someone said they worked in a primary school. 'Sometimes I could kill the little tykes when they misbehave!' - that you wouldn't take too seriously. But if you substitute the word 'kill'... Do I need to spell it out?

But a bitch is just a girl dog, so Santa's Little Helper is indeed a son of a bitch! No need to edit that out. Stupid censors.
But without the double meaning of 'bitch' there is no joke. It's disingenuous to say that the offensive meaning is not also implied.
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Old 28-07-2009, 13:27
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Any mild swears in the Simpsons, Trollheart, is used in context, though, as opposed to out of context in a public forum.
Ah. lighten up, ffs! I'm just havin' fun!
No offence intended, PC-brigade and others who guard our freedom!
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Old 28-07-2009, 13:34
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i dont like it when you know some jobsworth has been going through an episode and cut bits out ..it is against freedom
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