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Old 10-06-2010, 18:43   #1701
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Whoo! In the studio with Robbie Knox instead of live qualifying. Just what I was hoping to see tonight...
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Old 10-06-2010, 19:28   #1702
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Provisional schedules on BBC Press Office suggest that the European Grand Prix Qualifying session will be on BBC Two due to Wimbledon. This is to be confirmed. Depending on their World Cup picks as well, they could have the World Cup game at the same time the race is on, so may see some scheduling changes for the race.
Only an issue if England finish runner up in their group, as that would mean they end up playing in that 3pm sunday slot, which BBC would automatically show.
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Old 10-06-2010, 19:49   #1703
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I'm not saying I especially want Allen, I find it silly that the BBC want to make more work for themselves with a rule that only applies when it pleases them.
I'm the same really. Although those few years when it was Maurice Hamilton as lead commentator could do with Allen's commentary. Mostly i just think its silly to make that much work when we keep getting told that the process takes up alot of resources.

Surely the time that they spend editing him out.. (which in some of the more recent videos seems like alot of work as they have carefully cut around his bits and kept Brundle) ..could be better spent, giving us longer highlights, or some other extra content.
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Old 10-06-2010, 19:51   #1704
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Interesting tweet given that rain is due on Sunday:

adamcooperf1: Safety car and medical car going round track for usual TV tests. Some massive puddles out there, Maylander nearly shunted... - 26 minutes ago via web
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Old 10-06-2010, 20:08   #1705
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Whoo! In the studio with Robbie Knox instead of live qualifying. Just what I was hoping to see tonight...
Was the same yesterday during practice. What utterly stupid and pathetic scheduling in that respect. Seemingly the same for Saturday, except on Saturday they'll (apparently) have Le Mans 24 Minutes at 6.30 on Eurosport, and coverage of the race itself at the same time on Eurosport 2. Same goes for Sunday morning at 8am. Don't they know that people are going to be more interesting in watching live coverage of the race, rather than some people talking in a studio?
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Old 10-06-2010, 20:17   #1706
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I'd prefer a helicopter shot every day of the week compared to 'a view from the pitlane', especially when HD comes along. In televisual terms, a helicopter shot above somewhere like Singapore in HD is stunning.

Pitlane wise, you've got the 'Horner jiggle' and not a lot else.
And the Horner jiggle is much less irritating than the bouncing pussycat whenever Hamilton is leading. At least they don't have a microphone on her in the pit garages.
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Old 10-06-2010, 20:31   #1707
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I'm not saying I especially want Allen, I find it silly that the BBC want to make more work for themselves with a rule that only applies when it pleases them.
The rule is that only those previously employed by the BBC are used. Derek Warwick has been shown to have been previously employed by the BBC on several fronts, so this has nothing to do with the previous incumbent of the commentary box.

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Digital Spy F1 Thread posters must be some sort of self torture artists if they're looking for petty reasons why the BBC SHOULD use Allen's commentary.

Legard isn't perfect......but remember he's a big step up from Mr Cringey Obvious.
Here, here.
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Old 10-06-2010, 20:34   #1708
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The rule is that only those previously employed by the BBC are used. Derek Warwick has been shown to have been previously employed by the BBC on several fronts, so this has nothing to do with the previous incumbent of the commentary box.
i bet you a million pounds that if you looked hard enough you'd be able to find a piece of paid work james allen has done for the bbc, i just find all this so childish, james allen commentary is blocked because he is james allen, there really is no need to patronise us by pretending otherwise
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Old 10-06-2010, 20:37   #1709
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Even if James Allen hosted The One Show, I'd still rather have his commentaries removed.
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Old 10-06-2010, 20:58   #1710
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The rule is that only those previously employed by the BBC are used. .
And the point is the rule was conconcted by the BBC themselves and has thus created their own work.

And even more hilariously, the "rule" had no problem with Allen's pitlane musings being allowed.
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Old 10-06-2010, 21:06   #1711
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For some reason whenever I try & watch something on the BBC-F1 website in full-screen i get stuck with a tiny window in the middle of the screen?
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/579...1021043396.jpg

Thats never happened before
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Old 10-06-2010, 21:07   #1712
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Um, where's qualifying 3, theres just some show talking about football that doesn't seem close to be being finished.

What happened to Eurosport's prioritising an acual live sporting event over some talking heads discussing something they can't even show that's not happening until tomorrow?
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Old 10-06-2010, 21:09   #1713
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For some reason whenever I try & watch something on the BBC-F1 website in full-screen i get stuck with a tiny window in the middle of the screen?
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/579...1021043396.jpg

Thats never happened before
I'm having the same problem across the BBC Sport website
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Old 10-06-2010, 22:57   #1714
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For some reason whenever I try & watch something on the BBC-F1 website in full-screen i get stuck with a tiny window in the middle of the screen?
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/579...1021043396.jpg

Thats never happened before
It's ok for me - whenever I have issues with bbc video players it always seems to be something to do with my display settings - try resetting/redetecting your monitors and/or java installation
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Old 10-06-2010, 23:20   #1715
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Interesting tweet given that rain is due on Sunday:

adamcooperf1: Safety car and medical car going round track for usual TV tests. Some massive puddles out there, Maylander nearly shunted... - 26 minutes ago via web
Careful Bernd, that lovely sounding SLS will be needed on Sunday.
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Old 10-06-2010, 23:53   #1716
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Anyone know how many safety cars and medical cars they take to each race?
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Old 10-06-2010, 23:56   #1717
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Anyone know how many safety cars and medical cars they take to each race?
2 Safety Cars I believe in case 1 doesnt work/crashes/needs to pit for refuelling, and.....not certain on the number of medical cars in all honesty.
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Old 11-06-2010, 00:22   #1718
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Seeing as the following bits from the survey are discussed in this thread, I thought I'd add them below, from the weighted sample:
So basically, most people want more of everything, which means nothing much will change.

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2 Safety Cars I believe in case 1 doesnt work/crashes/needs to pit for refuelling, and.....not certain on the number of medical cars in all honesty.
Minimum of four medical cars.
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Old 11-06-2010, 00:28   #1719
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With the four medical cars, do they have enough medical professionals to staff each one? Or do they just have multiples in case of technical problems with the cars?

And what are the rules if the safety car were to leave the racing track (either a crash or going off the track to an extent where the F1 cars couldn't help but go beyond where the safety car is)? Presumably they remain in procession with the leader taking the place of the safety car?
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With the four medical cars, do they have enough medical professionals to staff each one? Or do they just have multiples in case of technical problems with the cars?

And what are the rules if the safety car were to leave the racing track (either a crash or going off the track to an extent where the F1 cars couldn't help but go beyond where the safety car is)? Presumably they remain in procession with the leader taking the place of the safety car?
I think as far as the SC goes, if the SC was to crash, then presumably they'd continue driving round, with the leader as the new SC, until they got round to the pits, where they'd cross the line as normal, but be picked up by the 2nd SC.
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I think as far as the SC goes, if the SC was to crash, then presumably they'd continue driving round, with the leader as the new SC, until they got round to the pits, where they'd cross the line as normal, but be picked up by the 2nd SC.
Who is the second safety car driver? And is the second safety car always on standby too?
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Old 11-06-2010, 01:03   #1722
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I think as far as the SC goes, if the SC was to crash, then presumably they'd continue driving round, with the leader as the new SC, until they got round to the pits, where they'd cross the line as normal, but be picked up by the 2nd SC.
That would be the theory I guess, but it wouldn't surprise me if they just red flagged it instead, like with the WTCC last year.

I think they usually have a spare SC sitting half way around the track somewhere? Unless I'm just thinking of medical cars.
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Old 11-06-2010, 01:11   #1723
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And what are the rules if the safety car were to leave the racing track (either a crash
Surely that would never happen?

Oh! Hang on, it did happen in WTCC last year.
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Old 11-06-2010, 01:20   #1724
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I've believe that, in the event of the SC crashing or breaking down, the medical car (if available) becomes the new, temporary, safety car. I may have dreamt this up though...
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Old 11-06-2010, 09:59   #1725
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I think it would depend on how the SC crashed. At a place like Monaco, Valencia, Singapore, Canada or Australia the SC would be blocking the track and be very difficult to remove. Not sure if the Manitou tractors could lift a sports car. In which case they would red flag the race.

If the SC went off into the gravel, and didn't damage the car, i'm sure he could power his way out of it with a push from the marshalls, and then overtake the pack to retake the lead.

The second SC, as far as I know is in the FIA garage, and is not on standby. Whoever the backup driver is (there must be one incase Bernd is taken ill) would have to hope in and start it up.

There are two Medical Cars, with numerous other support vehicles dotted around the circuit (as seen in Canada 2007).
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