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Old 27-07-2010, 03:16
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I have the screenplay - yes, it's genuine. Here is the link:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=THVZVTPH

Pretty disappointing screenplay. It's just Die Hard in a MC-1 Block. This Alex Garland, the writer, sure has no imagination!

I've been reading Dredd since 1983 - I don't recall it being based on Die Hard.

Alex Garland - hack merchant!
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Old 27-07-2010, 11:43
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Any Dredd/2000AD fans on DS? Did you read this? Any thoughts? Do you think it delivers or just a generic action thriller set in the future?
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Old 27-07-2010, 11:48
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I have to ask....why would any Dredd fans want to read the screenplay from a film not yet released? In fact, why would anyone want to? Wouldn't it kinda ruin the film for them?
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Old 27-07-2010, 12:18
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I have the screenplay - yes, it's genuine. Here is the link:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=THVZVTPH

Pretty disappointing screenplay. It's just Die Hard in a MC-1 Block. This Alex Garland, the writer, sure has no imagination!

I've been reading Dredd since 1983 - I don't recall it being based on Die Hard.

Alex Garland - hack merchant!
Firstly it's not Judge Dredd 2, it's a completely new film. Secondly, 'this Alex Garland' is actually Alex Garland the acclaimed author of The Beach and screenplay writer of 28 Days Later and Sunshine.
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Old 27-07-2010, 12:43
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Goddamn that was horrid.
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Old 27-07-2010, 13:33
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Goddamn that was horrid.
Yeah, it's bad. Kinda depressing.

I'm a long term Dredd fan. Having read the entire screenplay, here's my verdict with spoilers taken out. My original review had a few spoilers to help illustrate my points but I've removed them.

Lame Die Hard copy set in Dredd's world.

No imagination, no satire, no invention, cliche villains, just Die Hard in a block. It really is Die Hard in a block.

The outline suggested Dredd and Anderson have to escape with the perp but that's not the case. Kay, their perp, is just some gang member of little importance.

Mega-City 1 is portrayed as poverty-stricken. Peach Tree Block (not the greatest name for a block) is a slum. The overall feeling you get is Mega-City 1 is a bit of a dump. Garland's screenplay does not paint a high tech view of the future. This a grimy, dirty vision of MC-1.

Ma-Ma (worst villain name ever) isn't a great foe. Perhaps she'll be intimidating on screen but as a villain on paper she's kind of naff. A woman is hardly going to be much of a challenge for the ultra tough Judge Dredd! I'd rate her 2 out of 10 on the villain scale.

Dredd's character seems fairly consistent with Wagner's. John Wagner created Dredd and is the main Dredd writer for 2000AD. Dredd is taciturn, stoical, a man of action. The characterization is good.

Anderson's characterization is good too. She's fairly sensitive, a sharp contrast to Dredd's taciturn 'little emotion shown' character. There's some backstory about her parents. The Psi angle is used a bit, not to a huge extent. She comes over as physically tough which is consistent with how she's portrayed in the comic. The rookie subplot is okay. It works within the context of the larger storyline.

Garland has got the basics of Justice Dept right. A few changes here and there, such as 'responders' but overall it feels close to the comic version.

The Chief Judge appears. His/her actual name is not mentioned.

The perps are your standard type - seen in a million other action films. They're dumb, foul mouthed and can't aim straight! Nothing new there.

There's no satire, no poking fun at culture, at people.

There's no Wagner type ironic humour. The humour comes from the exchanges between the characters. Little of it seems to come from the situations. There's not much humour in the screenplay - period. It's done in a serious way.

The dialogue is peppered with "f***!" and "motherf***er!" No "drokks" - "gruds" or "stomms" to be seen. I missed them. The screenplay is very swear-ridden, perhaps too much?

It's violent. Heads blow up, people are set on fire, cut in half, blown up. It reads as 18 certificate but I guess the gore can edited down to 15 or PG 13 in the US.

Slo-mo is bullet time. It may not be done on screen like The Matrix but it seems similar. It doesn't play a major part in the story. It's featured early on but then it's more or less forgotten about. It does have some bearing on the plot though.

Plot - as mentioned, just Die Hard in a block. There is a a major plot development in the third act but it's still just Die Hard in a block.

The action is your standard stuff - mostly gun fights - a few fist fights too. No big action set pieces as such although I'm sure the action will look good on screen. The final battle is nothing you haven't seen before in a million cheap budget action films. No imagination there.

Conclusion

The screenplay is a missed opportunity to do something different, to show the crazy world of Mega-City 1. All the strangeness, the crazy perps, cits and crimes - there's none of that in Garland's screenplay. Not one thing. Garland is an unimaginative hack with zero passion for the material. A cynical writer just covering the basics. He stuck the rudimentary elements of Dredd's world into a Die Hard plot and believes that's good enough. I hope most fans can see that it's not good enough.

In terms of story originality I'd rate it 0 out of 10. Incredibly unimaginative. Overall I'd rate it 4 out of 10.

I hope this screenplay never gets made.
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Old 27-07-2010, 14:05
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I'll copy out what I wrote on Twitter about it;
Im a fan of the original Judge Dredd but that script for the new one was just awful. It was all one event and it doesnt even have a satisfying ending. Its just so sudden. Ma-Ma dies then one page is left to tie it up. Now of course it'll go through rewrites but the basic structure is bad, so I dont see it being much cop at all. Its been written for visuals. The main thing is that its about drug runners. A drug called Slo-Mo. Literally just so the film is filled with bullet time deaths. And his partner is a Cyborg meaning she can read peoples minds. When a cop can read minds, all tension leaves. Oh and shes a rookie. So its basically any early 90s story stereotype they could find to shove into it
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Old 27-07-2010, 15:19
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idontthinkso paste the download screenplay link on Twitter. That will really get fans talking about it!

I agree with your views. It's a bit of a disappointment. I guess the action could be good on screen - action rarely reads as good on paper - so that's something in its favour, but the plot is as generic as they come. The film has no crazy perps, no crazy crimes like stookie glanders, organ leggers, illegal boingers etc, there's no satire on MC-1, no absurd way of life, it's just a conventional Die Hard type plot shoehorned into Dredd's world. Garland has a very narrow view of what Dredd's about.

I doubt this film will be a huge hit. Even if it does well I think many film critics will rip into it and say "Dredd is just a Die Hard rip-off set in the future."
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Old 27-07-2010, 15:24
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A proper Dredd movie would require a massive budget which is hard to come by these days in Hollywood. I suspect that's why this is small scale.
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Old 27-07-2010, 15:54
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A proper Dredd movie would require a massive budget which is hard to come by these days in Hollywood. I suspect that's why this is small scale.

I don't think Hollywood is even involved with this film. If it were, a Hollywood studio would pump at least a hundred million dollars into it (most likely more). Let's face it, Judge Dredd's world is a visual marvel/nightmare which is something that may be hard to acccomplish onscreen with a small budget - although $45 million (the rumored budget) is not exactly cheap by any means. I hope Reliance BIG Pictures and DNA can pull this off. From what I've heard, the film is a co-production between India & England.
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Old 27-07-2010, 15:58
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And shot in South Africa.
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Old 27-07-2010, 16:03
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And shot in South Africa.
India, England & South Africa....hmmm... Ok, now I'm starting to lose hope.
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Old 27-07-2010, 17:02
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And a New Zealander is playing the part of an American Judge.
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Old 27-07-2010, 17:21
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They'd have to really reboot it and do something good with it to wash away the awful aftertaste of the first film (sorry Sly!).
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Old 27-07-2010, 17:22
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They'd have to really reboot it and do something good with it to wash away the awful aftertaste of the first film (sorry Sly!).
Judge Dredd is one of my guilty pleasures....
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Old 27-07-2010, 18:37
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And a New Zealander is playing the part of an American Judge.
If you mention a midget sidekick next, I'm going to get drunk and jump out of a window.
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Old 27-07-2010, 21:01
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I wrote up an article about it, if anyones interested in takin a read.
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Old 27-07-2010, 22:23
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Nice stuff. The end of the film is so much like Die Hard it's bit embarrassing. The writer must have thought "oh f*** it, I can't be bothered to think up anything else, Die Hard's end will do!"
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Old 28-07-2010, 10:08
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I don't think Hollywood is even involved with this film. If it were, a Hollywood studio would pump at least a hundred million dollars into it (most likely more). Let's face it, Judge Dredd's world is a visual marvel/nightmare which is something that may be hard to acccomplish onscreen with a small budget - although $45 million (the rumored budget) is not exactly cheap by any means. I hope Reliance BIG Pictures and DNA can pull this off. From what I've heard, the film is a co-production between India & England.
Wherever it's coming from, $45 million is peanuts for a blockbuster. The Stallone version cost 85 mill. You can't deny that some serious number crunching has been going on.
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Old 28-07-2010, 14:57
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Three suggestions to change/improve the screenplay...

1) I’d prefer a male villain. Replace Ma-Ma with a man and give him a better name. A male villain – if played by a big guy with large muscles – is more of a threat to Dredd. A woman isn’t much of a threat to Dredd even if she’s portrayed as tough. Dredd is really tough and I can’t recall many women giving him a hard time in 2000AD’s Dredd strips.

2) The final action scene could be changed. The perps escape to the block roof, board a small craft. Dredd takes a surfboard, chases after them, lands on the craft, gets inside, the controls are destroyed during the fight, Dredd kills the perps, he grabs an anti-grav chute and jumps out as the craft crashes to ground. I accept that would cost a few dollars to do but it would expand the storyline beyond the Peach Tree block.

3) I’d put a few comic book swear words into the story. Garland’screenplay has a lot of the f word. If you replaced all the fs with ‘drokk’ or ‘grud’ you could lower the film’s classification – aim it at a 12 (UK) or PG 13 (US) audience. The violence may need to be toned down too to suit that classification.
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Old 29-07-2010, 00:13
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That's pretty disappointing. Garland is a good writer but this script falls flat on its face.

I can see this film going like the other one. The editorial team and publishing company will hype it up before release and during its release, then immediately after that act all quiet and embarrassed and rarely mention it again. They must realise by now that the fans are going to hate it!?
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Old 29-07-2010, 02:18
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Irishguy, I'm with you 100 percent. But I doubt the producers will listen. I think the screenplay is locked in place and everything else is contracted for. I'm guessing the film has to be made or there will be big legal problems. I'd be amazed if they dumped the screenplay and delayed the film.

But in my opinion it's the wrong screenplay and I doubt it will impress most people.

I can see this film going like the other one. The editorial team and publishing company will hype it up before release and during its release, then immediately after that act all quiet and embarrassed and rarely mention it again.
Yeah, I think that's likely to happen.

2000AD - the comic which features Dredd - has a fairly small readership so it will continue being published even if the film isn't a success. 2000AD readers - and I am one - endured the first Dredd film so they can endure another 'crappy' one.
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Old 29-07-2010, 04:46
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Exclusive Dredd movie poster revealed!

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Old 31-07-2010, 05:49
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