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Old 08-10-2010, 16:57
Carmen Queasy
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Potentially a stupid question here, but how easy is it to move home whilst on Job seekers? I mean moving home and still claiming. I could be moving to another region, hence a different job centre etc...

I've searched the web and got the usual mix of responses so I'm not quite sure.
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Old 20-10-2010, 22:33
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Bump...

I move out next week; around the 27th. I sign on again on the 2nd.

I asked yesterday, when I signed on, and he said just go to the new Job Centre and ask for a "live transfer" but recommended to give them "some time". Because I'll be going on the 27th that gives them only 3 working days to get it sorted and the place I'm moving to has a lot of unemployed people (sadly!) so I can see it taking a lot longer.

Has anyone ever done this? Is there any reason I can't phone and get it sorted out tomorrow?
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Old 20-10-2010, 22:43
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I'm pretty sure you have to attend your new Job Centre in person. You will be required to fill out the big form again, as if you were making a new claim. It will probably then take a few days to be looked at. The needless red tape really is unbelievable. If I were you, I'd allow for a small delay in getting your next payment. Hopefully not, but I've learned, through dealings with them over the years, to always expect the worst. You can, of course apply for a crisis loan to tide you over, should there be any kind of hold up in processing your claim.
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Old 20-10-2010, 22:48
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You're right. I am good with money and when I move I won't be paying any bills or rent so a delay wouldn't be much of an issue. The only problem I see is that it'll take ages to get sorted.

I don't want to fill that form in again, noooo! I done it over the phone and it took me 20 minutes! Handwritten, oh no

I know that when I signed on at this job centre, they had my old details from when I signed on (for 3 weeks) back in 2006! It's not as if it's a separate system they use!

Cheers Jenny!
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Old 20-10-2010, 22:52
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I've helped fill them out a few times. It's mind numbing. That's good that you'll manage. The money will be back dated so, at least you won't lose out.

Good luck with the move.
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Old 20-10-2010, 22:52
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Welcome back Carmen from your short holiday

Are you going back home then, didn't things work out in Manchester?
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Old 20-10-2010, 22:56
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Welcome back Carmen from your short holiday

Are you going back home then, didn't things work out in Manchester?
Haha That was so out of character for me it's unbelievable! This is what happens when you have a wreckhead Army brat brother who came home to visit!

I am moving back home, yes! I'm moving in with my mum until I get a job. Because I know a lot of people in Teesside I have already applied for 5 jobs through networking (and I honestly believed that this never worked when the job centre told me... probably because it doesn't work for me in Manchester!).

I'm actually having more luck up there than I ever did down here!
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Old 20-10-2010, 22:57
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Everything will be backdates but you can always use the few days that you will need to wait to go and look for some jobs. Different area, different jobs. I think New Deal would be ideal for you because you obviously hate signing on and getting a nice 35 hour a week job would do you the world of good.
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Old 20-10-2010, 22:57
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Hi.. yes you literally go into the new local jobcentre and ask for a transfer, yuo will get an appointment to see an advisor and have to confirm whether you have any changes, apart from the new address... some offices use a different form now.. The main problem is if you have moved across a border for the benefit offices... eg from yorkshire to lancashire might be different office?? and that can take ages to sort out?
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Old 20-10-2010, 23:01
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Everything will be backdates but you can always use the few days that you will need to wait to go and look for some jobs. Different area, different jobs. I think New Deal would be ideal for you because you obviously hate signing on and getting a nice 35 hour a week job would do you the world of good.
Not at all patronizing. Kind of embarrassing for you, after the OP's post right above yours.
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Old 20-10-2010, 23:10
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Hi Carmen, I wouldnt pay any attention to your 'due' date to sign on as your new office will inevitably change your signing on day etc to fit in with their cycle.

Ring ahead, make an appointment for a transfer and be aware they may be booked up for a few days. Think of it as starting a new job - hey come on it's free money!!

Flippin eck - if you cant fill in a new form how on earth will you cope in a job?
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Old 20-10-2010, 23:12
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Hi Carmen, I wouldnt pay any attention to your 'due' date to sign on as your new office will inevitably change your signing on day etc to fit in with their cycle.

Ring ahead, make an appointment for a transfer and be aware they may be booked up for a few days. Think of it as starting a new job - hey come on it's free money!!

Flippin eck - if you cant fill in a new form how on earth will you cope in a job?
The day you sign is dictated by your national insurance number which doesnt change!
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Old 20-10-2010, 23:17
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Hi Carmen, I wouldnt pay any attention to your 'due' date to sign on as your new office will inevitably change your signing on day etc to fit in with their cycle.

Ring ahead, make an appointment for a transfer and be aware they may be booked up for a few days. Think of it as starting a new job - hey come on it's free money!!

Flippin eck - if you cant fill in a new form how on earth will you cope in a job?
I can fill in a form, but in the 21st century why do I need to fill something in which I have already done, is clearly already on their systems and all I'd be doing is changing from one place to another?

The less time I spend in the job centre the better. I do sympathise with the staff there. Some of their "clients" are the vilest people on the planet.
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Old 20-10-2010, 23:18
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The day you sign is dictated by your national insurance number which doesnt change!
Oh maybe its been dragged into this century now - when I worked there (a long time ago ) it was dictated by your surname - we had to literally count all the files each week and every now and again shuffle people around so we could fit them all in the doors. People did NOT like it if you changed their signing on day to even out numbers through the doors - it must have been really inconvenient for them to have to rearrange their unemployment to fit it in
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Old 20-10-2010, 23:22
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I can fill in a form, but in the 21st century why do I need to fill something in which I have already done, is clearly already on their systems and all I'd be doing is changing from one place to another?

The less time I spend in the job centre the better. I do sympathise with the staff there. Some of their "clients" are the vilest people on the planet.
aw I am only teasing you mate - as you will gather from my earlier post I used to work in one myself - you dont want to be there and I can assure you most of the staff dont want to be there either
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Old 20-10-2010, 23:25
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I can fill in a form, but in the 21st century why do I need to fill something in which I have already done, is clearly already on their systems and all I'd be doing is changing from one place to another?

The less time I spend in the job centre the better. I do sympathise with the staff there. Some of their "clients" are the vilest people on the planet.
By not wanting to fill in forms your not helping yourself either. It's not as if you don't have plenty of time to do it. Just get it over and done with then you only need to see them once a fortnight.
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Old 20-10-2010, 23:35
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By not wanting to fill in forms your not helping yourself either. It's not as if you don't have plenty of time to do it. Just get it over and done with then you only need to see them once a fortnight.
Well coming from both sides - I know what he is saying - they are supposed to provide a service - and how lovely it would be if you could just move wherever you want and your JSA just follows you at the touch of a button, however, public services are notoriously inept. Also there is a reason they dont make it that e.g. easy for fraudulant claims etc... (and also to make sure you are available for work) I myself would be far happier to fill in another form to make sure they have the right information at least - and to meet the lovely new staff who you will be seeing every fortnight of course!
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Old 20-10-2010, 23:39
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it makes no difference.. it wont delay it ive moved 2 times and theres no delay. they only asked me for my new address 3 months later and i was still getting jsa...housing dont matter either
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Old 20-10-2010, 23:57
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The day you sign is dictated by your national insurance number which doesnt change!
You are totally wrong by the way, your NI no is dictated by when you were born - the day of signing on depends on how many unemployed people each local area office has at a given time, they have to try and split it amongst their own population.
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Old 21-10-2010, 17:09
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I can't get through to the Job Centre at all. I've been on hold for ages no matter when I call!
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Old 21-10-2010, 17:26
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I give in! 25 minutes waiting

In the meantime, I got through to the council as soon as I rang and they're sorting out council tax and such.
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Old 21-10-2010, 17:38
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Not sure what you have done so far yet.
But, when at your parents, go straight to the job centre no appointment needed and just enquire at the reception about transferring from 1 location to another. They should then point you into the right direction - explain the situation.

If you tell them it's an transfer they shoudn't really give you anything to fill in that will take too long, as you are still claiming but now in a different region. Obviously, I could be wrong here slightly.

Make it clear to them, you're not signing off and signing back on, you just want to transfer to their office from Manchester, but if need be then you sign off at Manchester (fill the white card in, and say other reason is Transfer to Middlesborough, and send it off via post), and then do a rapid reclaim at the new office.
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