[samandmai]

There were many delights to be had watching the riot coverage and the post-riot reactions. Highlights included...

Vince Cable being torn a new one by Kirsty Wark on Newsnight...she got him so rattled he developed a Herbert Lom-like twitch (left eye) halfway though the shellacking by Wark (I kid you not).

Theresa May looking distinctly rattled during her interview last night - she was desperately trying not to sound hostile towards the police despite them just making one of the biggest cock-ups with the Royal security.

Charles and Camilla waving at the protesters who were wanting them strung up...Gawd bless 'em, it's the only thing they've been taught to do with any confidence or expertise.

Cameron's appearance this morning outside Downing Street, sporting what we in our household like to call his "constipated parrot" look. He really has quite an attractive little beak....not like George "Karl Malden" Osborne....yuchhhhh!

[Windy999]

Oooooh - I just broke a rib laughing at it all

[Smurfle]

Originally Posted by samandmai

There were many delights to be had watching the riot coverage and the post-riot reactions. Highlights included...

Vince Cable being torn a new one by Kirsty Wark on Newsnight...she got him so rattled he developed a Herbert Lom-like twitch (left eye) halfway though the shellacking by Wark (I kid you not).

Theresa May looking distinctly rattled during her interview last night - she was desperately trying not to sound hostile towards the police despite them just making one of the biggest cock-ups with the Royal security.

Charles and Camilla waving at the protesters who were wanting them strung up...Gawd bless 'em, it's the only thing they've been taught to do with any confidence or expertise.

Cameron's appearance this morning outside Downing Street, sporting what we in our household like to call his "constipated parrot" look. He really has quite an attractive little beak....not like George "Karl Malden" Osborne....yuchhhhh!

Well, for me I simply couldn't stop laughing at the bloke smashing the Supreme Court windows. Oh, maybe the flag swinger at the Cenotaph was more funny. I can't decide...

Actually, I think what I find the most hilarious is the utter hypocrisy of the NUS who failed to squeak when Labour brought in tuition fees in the first place.

[samandmai]

Originally Posted by Smurfle

Well, for me I simply couldn't stop laughing at the bloke smashing the Supreme Court windows. Oh, maybe the flag swinger at the Cenotaph was more funny. I can't decide...

Actually, I think what I find the most hilarious is the utter hypocrisy of the NUS who failed to squeak when Labour brought in tuition fees in the first place.

The flag swinger at The Cenotaph was funnier Smurfie...there...I've made your mind up for you...

[RacerWelsh]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukp...1291987129088A and now a son of a pop star who jumped on the Cenotaph.

[jmclaugh]

Yeah it was all very very funny indeed, especially when the rise in tuition fees was passed.

[trunkster]

Funniest bit for me was seeing some anarchist masquerading as a student with blood spouting from a cut lip whining about police brutality - Give that officer a medal!

[MartinP]

And you are a doctor, OP? Good grief, what passes for hilarity in your household....

[jswift909]

Originally Posted by Smurfle

Well, for me I simply couldn't stop laughing at the bloke smashing the Supreme Court windows. Oh, maybe the flag swinger at the Cenotaph was more funny. I can't decide...

Actually, I think what I find the most hilarious is the utter hypocrisy of the NUS who failed to squeak when Labour brought in tuition fees in the first place.

But do remember that when they were first brought in they were just over £1,000 per year. That is easily managable. You might have left with £3k of tuition debt, not nearly £30k.

Apart from a mortgage, who else has £30k of debt hanging over them for 30 years. Even my mortgage is only 25 years. And the interest was low, now it'll be near or at market rates. Interest makes a lot of difference, and it'll be accruring all the time.

[MidnightFalcon]

Originally Posted by samandmai

The flag swinger at The Cenotaph was funnier Smurfie...there...I've made your mind up for you...

Nah - that fell a little short. It would have been much funnier if the flag had ripped dumping that halfwit on their head.

[jmclaugh]

Originally Posted by jswift909

But do remember that when they were first brought in they were just over £1,000 per year. That is easily managable. You might have left with £3k of tuition debt, not nearly £30k.

Apart from a mortgage, who else has £30k of debt hanging over them for 30 years. Even my mortgage is only 25 years. And the interest was low, now it'll be near or at market rates. Interest makes a lot of difference, and it'll be accruring all the time.

Do remember the cause, the huge expansion of the numbers going to uni which has led to a large over supply of graduates all costing a great deal of taxpayer money for very little return.

[MartinP]

Originally Posted by MidnightFalcon

that halfwit

That would be the halfwit who most probably has a massive trust fund set up for him by papa who is worth many millions.

My heart bleeds for the poor student.

[Smurfle]

Originally Posted by jswift909

But do remember that when they were first brought in they were just over £1,000 per year. That is easily managable. You might have left with £3k of tuition debt, not nearly £30k.

Apart from a mortgage, who else has £30k of debt hanging over them for 30 years. Even my mortgage is only 25 years. And the interest was low, now it'll be near or at market rates. Interest makes a lot of difference, and it'll be accruring all the time.

You may be right. Unfortunately, I think this is much more of an ideological protest by those in the NUS. Its a bad policy, because its a Tory policy.

[jmclaugh]

Originally Posted by MartinP

That would be the halfwit who most probably has a massive trust fund set up for him by papa who is worth many millions.

My heart bleeds for the poor student.

He is quite frankly a first rate ****er.

[samandmai]

Originally Posted by MartinP

And you are a doctor, OP? Good grief, what passes for hilarity in your household....

Who said I was a doctor?

[MartinP]

Originally Posted by samandmai

Who said I was a doctor?

You did...

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...8&postcount=63

[Smurfle]

Originally Posted by jmclaugh

Do remember the cause, the huge expansion of the numbers going to uni which has led to a large over supply of graduates all costing a great deal of taxpayer money for very little return.

This is the nub of the problem. Numbers need to be reduced to the proper proportion of school leavers. 50% of school leavers should not go to University. The fact that 50% can meet entry requirements indicates how devalued qualifications have become.

To quote the film The Incredibles - if everyone is special then no-one is special.

[jswift909]

Originally Posted by jmclaugh

Do remember the cause, the huge expansion of the numbers going to uni which has led to a large over supply of graduates all costing a great deal of taxpayer money for very little return.

We're done with that one. It was the Tories in the late 80s, early 90s, who "massively" (quoted) expanded education from allowances to stay on at school (like EMAs, which I received), and expansion of FE and HE. It was in response to serious concerns that more than half were leaving school at 16 with no qualifications.

Were the Tories wrong to do this? Absolutely not. Were Labour wrong to continue and try to improve on this? Absolutely not.

[samandmai]

Do you take everything you read on here literally Martin? You're not a Daily Telegraph or Mail reader by any chance, are you?

[colinff]

Originally Posted by RacerWelsh

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukp...1291987129088A and now a son of a pop star who jumped on the Cenotaph.

all in all he's just another prick in whitehall.

[Smurfle]

Originally Posted by colinff

all in all he's just another prick in whitehall.

Very good!

[Smurfle]

Originally Posted by samandmai

Do you take everything you read on here literally Martin? You're not a Daily Telegraph or Mail reader by any chance, are you?

Explain to me why Telegraph readers take everything literally...

[jswift909]

Originally Posted by Smurfle

This is the nub of the problem. Numbers need to be reduced to the proper proportion of school leavers. 50% of school leavers should not go to University. The fact that 50% can meet entry requirements indicates how devalued qualifications have become.

To quote the film The Incredibles - if everyone is special then no-one is special.

But we don't know where the economic miricle will come from. How do we know whether we need 50% going to FE/HE/vocational training - or are we talking just about HE?

How do we calculate the proper proportion?

Personally I think we need to invest very heavily in the social sciences now. Those coming out of Uni owing £40k+interest are going to need counselling for the rest of their lives.

[MartinP]

Originally Posted by samandmai

Do you take everything you read on here literally Martin? You're not a Daily Telegraph or Mail reader by any chance, are you?

So no reason for us to believe a word you say. As you were...

[Annsyre]

Originally Posted by colinff

all in all he's just another prick in whitehall.