[in my ears]

Originally Posted by GORTONIAN

I can understand that but unless they buy an FM station like Tower or the Revolution still as yet not owned by the big three and re brand it wont happenAlso to cover the area fully any of those stations would have to be pumped up signal wise causing interference with others
Cant see the Radio Authority or whatever they call themselves now would be too happy either

tower fm is owned by utv i think you mean imagine fm

[GORTONIAN]

Originally Posted by sparry

And given this thread, it's ironic that that was Heart before it was rebranded!

Indeed it was .....

[GORTONIAN]

Originally Posted by in my ears

tower fm is owned by utv i think you mean imagine fm

Sorry yes I do In the great run of things despite TS nationally UTV still not in the big three but working on it no doubt.

[Bill Clinton]

Birmingham seems to be the only city with a three way choice of an established local (well it has now become Free! rather than Birmingham based BRMB), a Heart and a & Capital.
In Manchester it's only Key 103 vs Capital, to be honest Real just seems so dire as a concept that even I'd probably prefer Heart, Real just seems to cover the exact territory of local Bauer stations, but the Bauer stations still do it better, I preferred Century, Real is a terrible name I can't be the only one to think that.

[GORTONIAN]

Originally Posted by Bill Clinton

Birmingham seems to be the only city with a three way choice of an established local (well it has now become Free! rather than Birmingham based BRMB), a Heart and a & Capital.
In Manchester it's only Key 103 vs Capital, to be honest Real just seems so dire as a concept that even I'd probably prefer Heart, Real just seems to cover the exact territory of local Bauer stations, but the Bauer stations still do it better, I preferred Century, Real is a terrible name I can't be the only one to think that.

Agree over the name. I was in Nottingham when Radio 106 as it was then began. By virtue of its remit a regional station with talk and sport thrown in. Come 2000 re branded as Century. As a local newsagent I regularly went on air to review the papers for them.Many listeners came from gem when GWR turned in it to classic gold.They didnt stay alas as in their infinite wisdom the new owners turned it into what it is today a mish mash trying to be national and regional at the same time.
As I mentioned earlier the Notts station after a period as heart now on its own again as Gem 106 with 90% of its programming LOCAL and doing nicely ta. Draw your own conclusions.....

[max_db]

Originally Posted by bowland37

103.4 and 97.1 cover quite a large chunk of the area.

No they don't, 97.1 gets completely wiped by 97.2 Wythenshaw FM in the south and 97.0 from Rochdale does in the north.
103.4 is completely wiped out by High Peak Radio on 103.3 throughout the city.

[Bill Clinton]

Originally Posted by max_db

No they don't, 97.1 gets completely wiped by 97.2 Wythenshaw FM in the south and 97.0 from Rochdale does in the north.
103.4 is completely wiped out by High Peak Radio on 103.3 throughout the city.

Wirral 97.1 is extremely weak even in Warrington, so not many people in Manchester are going to be casually tuning into Heart, 103.4 is probably listenable just about in some southern suburbs, Altrincham and Lymm.

[max_db]

Originally Posted by Bill Clinton

Wirral 97.1 is extremely weak even in Warrington, so not many people in Manchester are going to be casually tuning into Heart, 103.4 is probably listenable just about in some southern suburbs, Altrincham and Lymm.

Completely wiped out by 103.3 in Stretford only a couple of miles away.

[Barrythebear]

Wishing for a Heart to pop up near you is utterly bonkers. It's like saying you want fine dining and then saying you cant wait for a KFC to be built.

There is a vast difference between what anoraks call good radio, (IE which presenter is better than another, who has the best jingle package) However listeners really couldn't care less about jingles and station processing. How about looking at how a station interacts with the community it serves. And for the best part of 18 hours a day Heart doesn't really it's a national station.

You say that you like Heart for the music, but then say that other stations sound too old. If you listen to Heart you'll know that their music mix is older.

If the only reason you want Global to buy out another group, costing them tens of millions of pounds and putting a load more people out of work is so you can listen to Heart in your car, may I suggest either A) Moving house, or B) Getting a digital radio fitted. Both of which are cheaper and economical, and unlike Heart, a digital radio actually does offer more variety

And if you are looking for a job in radio, wishing for Heart to take over you local station is just reducing your chances.

So fail on all counts there I think

[mfr]

Originally Posted by Barrythebear

Wishing for a Heart to pop up near you is utterly bonkers. It's like saying you want fine dining and then saying you cant wait for a KFC to be built.

Actually, it's like saying you quite like a KFC and wouldn't mind one locally. Not everyone wants fine dining every day.

Originally Posted by Barrythebear

listeners really couldn't care less about jingles and station processing. How about looking at how a station interacts with the community it serves. And for the best part of 18 hours a day Heart doesn't really it's a national station.

Yet, in many cases, the ratings have gone up, suggesting that continuous music and local news at the top of the hour is exactly what the audience wants. OFCOM research, at least in part, backs this up hence the recent emphasis on increased news provision in return for fewer local presenter hours.

I like Real, community radio and local radio, but let's not kid ourselves into thinking Local FM automatically equals good, popular and economically viable radio.

[crusher19860138]

Originally Posted by Hitmusic

You guys have got to be joking about REAL NW? It's dire! All over the shop, naff presenters. It sounds so old fashioned, something my dad would listen to and he's only 51!

I wanna listen to heart in my car not via my tv.

You wanna listen to Heart?never heard anyone say that!

Heart is stale now,its time has gone,i never liked it from the start,and there is much better,non repetitive stations available nowadays.

[Multimedia81]

Originally Posted by GORTONIAN

Sadly wherever you listen to it HEART is the same. Only difference is Breakfast and Drive LOCAL hosts but NATIONAL playlist.
GMG Bauer Global take your pick Ladies and Gentlemen...
Magic,Smooth,Real,Gold other than ads Traffic and a couple of minutes Local news they are all National
GWR sure as hell have a lot to answer for ......

Even if it is the same playlist, I shall listen to Heart Wirral for some weekend breakfast shows to hear Fiona Sadler presenting it. How much other coverage is national is interesting to know all the same.

[GORTONIAN]

Originally Posted by Multimedia81

Even if it is the same playlist, I shall listen to Heart Wirral for some weekend breakfast shows to hear Fiona Sadler presenting it. How much other coverage is national is interesting to know all the same.

Breakfast and drive local but everything else network.But even with the local presenter talking to you all ther music played at the same time from London.
For example when we still had Capital Gold Mike Sweeney presented the breakfast show from Manchester/Salford but every single track was played at the same moment on their London feed. Wonder how this pans out with PRS payments ?

[chandleo]

To be honest, I have to say that I do like 'bits' of Real Radio at the moment, some work really well - I love Debbie Mac in the afternoon, and not wanting to be controversial I really like On Air with Ryan Seacrest. The breakfast show is just dire though, anyone who has to refer to themselves as 'a bit mad' is usually dull as dishwater.

So yeah wouldn't be against a rebrand to Heart if they did keep Debbie & Ryan!

I do listen to Heart now and again, and do quite like it, it's just Heart on DAB in Manchester is the London variant and it feels a bit wron listening to the station for another area, I don't want to know about problems on the tube!

[dpb]

Originally Posted by GORTONIAN

Breakfast and drive local but everything else network.But even with the local presenter talking to you all ther music played at the same time from London.
For example when we still had Capital Gold Mike Sweeney presented the breakfast show from Manchester/Salford but every single track was played at the same moment on their London feed. Wonder how this pans out with PRS payments ?

On occasions I used to listen to bits of Mick Brown through the TV and then switch to Sweeney on my personal radio it was usually the same song, sometimes one I had just heard, but I never switched to hear the same song played at exactly the same moment, usually a minute or so behind or ahead.

[GORTONIAN]

Originally Posted by chandleo

To be honest, I have to say that I do like 'bits' of Real Radio at the moment, some work really well - I love Debbie Mac in the afternoon, and not wanting to be controversial I really like On Air with Ryan Seacrest. The breakfast show is just dire though, anyone who has to refer to themselves as 'a bit mad' is usually dull as dishwater.

So yeah wouldn't be against a rebrand to Heart if they did keep Debbie & Ryan!

I do listen to Heart now and again, and do quite like it, it's just Heart on DAB in Manchester is the London variant and it feels a bit wron listening to the station for another area, I don't want to know about problems on the tube!

When Lbc and Heart arrived here on DAB they did have opt-outs for traffic from the now defunct Traffic channel which you may recall was also on DAB here.

[Hitmusic]

Originally Posted by Barrythebear

Wishing for a Heart to pop up near you is utterly bonkers. It's like saying you want fine dining and then saying you cant wait for a KFC to be built.


And if you are looking for a job in radio, wishing for Heart to take over you local station is just reducing your chances.

So fail on all counts there I think

Why is it utterly bonkers to want a radio station that I love to be on fm in my area?!

Who on earth said I wanted to work for Heart? Or radio for that matter?

[hanssolo]

Originally Posted by Hitmusic

Why is it utterly bonkers to want a radio station that I love to be on fm in my area?!

If GCAP had not panicked to reduce debt and sold Century in 2006, just before GCAP was taken over by Global in 2007, then you might have had Heart on FM in Manchester instead of Real!
http://www.business-sale.com/news/ar...ale-26446.html

Originally Posted by Hitmusic

Yes I can listen online, tv dab, smart phone and all that jazz BUT it's not on NORMAL radio.....you know how most normal people listen to radio. In the car etc

There are several DAB sets and adaptors for the car which will get Heart in Manchester, last week it was confirmed the signal will be boosted 31st May!
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1655744

Originally Posted by chandleo

I do listen to Heart now and again, and do quite like it, it's just Heart on DAB in Manchester is the London variant and it feels a bit wron listening to the station for another area, I don't want to know about problems on the tube!

As digital listening starts to increase I suspect Global will provide a fully national version of Heart, Capital, LBC etc for those not in London and do not want London traffic reports?

[SmartProgrammer]

Originally Posted by GORTONIAN

Sadly wherever you listen to it HEART is the same. Only difference is Breakfast and Drive LOCAL hosts but NATIONAL playlist

Originally Posted by GORTONIAN

Breakfast and drive local but everything else network.But even with the local presenter talking to you all ther music played at the same time from London.

Incorrect. Wirral runs a separate log during local hours.

[bowland37]

Originally Posted by SmartProgrammer

Incorrect. Wirral runs a separate log during local hours.

I thought you'd gone?

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...382&highlight=

[dpb]

I'm surprised the "North West and North Wales" cluster don't take the London log as the two licences don't have the "contemporary and chart" requirement.

[Hitmusic]

Now All over the southwest......maybe soon to be in the northwest!

[Mapperley Ridge]

Originally Posted by Hitmusic

Now All over the southwest......maybe soon to be in the northwest!

In another thread you say that Heart London sounds tired and needs some new imaging. Yet you want much the same station in the North West. Then, in another thread, you slag off Real Radio.

So what makes you think a localised Heart would be any different?

Or are you just trolling?

[GORTONIAN]

Originally Posted by Mapperley Ridge

In another thread you say that Heart London sounds tired and needs some new imaging. Yet you want much the same station in the North West. Then, in another thread, you slag off Real Radio.

So what makes you think a localised Heart would be any different?

Or are you just trolling?

I think the latter Mapperley like yourself.

[Hitmusic]

RIGHT.....To people in London heart is sounding tired as its been on air there for years with the same voices, music etc. I personally am not tired of Heart. I love it!

I would like nothing more than there to be a heart in the NW AND whats wrong with slagging off Real radio? It's dire.