[Scotty2012]

Just read this on another site and I think it makes complete sense. It's quite long but afterwards you might think differently.

Dear fellow truth seekers, I think I've figured it out. Of all the years I've spent researching alternative subjects in a quest to get a bead on this whole reality business, I think enough pieces just finally fell into place that explains perfectly so much of the bizarre, and perplexing behavior and events we've been seeing and have been subjected to now for decades.

It is highly unlikely that, what with billions of primates all banging on keyboards simultaneously across the planet, that this particular epiphany is entirely and originally mine. However, I will lay it out as it has originally come to me, and I can think of no other place to "throw it out there" than ATS. (In other words, I apologize if you've heard of this all before, or have come up with it in some form or fashion on your own)



Having said that, here is my conspiracy theory that glues it all together:

Our dependence has been deliberately engineered and our economy, as we understand it today, is a contrivance, conjured from thin air. The whole entire thing is a sham; a sham that has been deliberately rigged from the start that we have all been forced and conditioned to participate in. And that is the heart of this conspiracy theory: we can't NOT participate in their contrived socio-economic game. Well, we can, it's just very, very difficult to live in this country without playing some small role in the game they've all engineered. The exit doors to independence have all been sealed shut - they've seen to that, and that's what I mean by rigged.

And I say Forced Participation, for, if we do not participate in their economy, their contrived game collapses - so they've done everything they can to keep us "on the field," as it were. Of course there are people who are living off the grid, but you need a very special skill-set to live effectively that way, and guess which skills we AREN'T taught in public school?

The captains of industry from around the time of the Great Depression needed grubs to manufacture their junk. They needed monkeys smart enough to push the buttons and run the machinery but not smart enough to start asking questions. For the ones smart enough to ask questions, they instituted the standard 40 hour work week to keep us too busy and tired from scrambling around to ask questions.

Public schooling was instituted to indoctrinate us into a culture that submits to authority and discourages critical and free thinking. History class was notoriously all about memorizing names and dates. By deliberately instilling the notion that history was always very boring to the student, curiosity was retarded, and further study into the subject by the individual on their own time was all but squashed. Mathematics is the same way. They couldn't do anything about the students who just naturally "got it," but they made sure that the material was delivered much in the same way. They deliberately designed mathematics to be so unapproachable, that anyone who didn't "get it," would never return to study the subject further. To those students who got math, maybe the 40 hour work week, families and mortgages would keep them too busy to ask questions.

After all, what are the two most dangerous subjects for ANY government's citizens to be effective with? History and mathematics. From history, we learn to spot the mistakes governments have made before, and mathematics helps us to spot when we're being lied to. (You see, governments LIKE making mistakes, as I get into further, and they need to be able to lie in order to make them)

Also, by controlling the curriculum, they controlled the narrative. For example, Edison was a thief, and a dropout who hated book learning. Tesla gave us the 20th century on a silver platter and studied hard. How else do you explain Edison being lauded as a hero and never even hearing of Tesla in school? That's certainly the narrative *I* heard.



They engineered a lot of racial tension as well, because any population that is united is the only real threat to any powers that be. We are deliberately kept fragmented and divided, and the 3 social classes were engineered to protect them from us all wising up to their vile scheme.

The people in lower class would be too busy getting shafted and blaming the middle and upper classes to be asking any questions.

The people in middle class would be kept too busy at their salaried jobs and mortgages to be asking any questions.

The people in upper class would be too busy shafting the lower and middle classes, and keeping their money from the government, to be asking questions.

Just the way the CoD's want it.

Our exits to independence from the shackles of this game, have effectively been welded shut with a laser-like precision on just the right doors. Look how hard it is to generate your own power. To grow your own food. To stitch your own clothes. To live without a car or a residency. Convenience becomes mandatory in a nation with a 40 hour work week, so we're also in large part discouraged from becoming self-reliant. Who has time for that?

If we crafted everything we needed, we wouldn't need to be paying the captains of industry for their junk, that they have all effectively forced us to buy. THIS is why hemp is illegal. Notice there, that I used the word "hemp," not marijuana. If you could grow everything you needed in your back yard, (fiber, fuel, food) you could effectively decouple yourself from their contrived economy. If you could stitch your own clothes with hemp, you wouldn't need to drive your car to the mall and buy clothes that the captains of industry expect you to buy.

You have to have residency to do anything. In order to acquire residency, you have to have credit, and in order to get credit, you have to prove that you are able to manage and live in debt. That's because our economy can conjure wealth out of thin air - not for you, but for those who are in charge of it. And if we're all too busy being in one of those economic classes, armed with a hatred of history and mathematics, being pissed off at each other because of the color of our hides, no one will ever stop, and look up to see who's really doing the shafting, and unite under a cause of putting an end to the game that enslaves us all.

Since it's generally in every government's best interest to continue existing, it therefore stands to reason that they will manufacture problems to justify their further existence (and funding). That's why nothing ever really changes. There really wasn't a big difference between Bush and Obama. It's still business as usual. Sure, they put up a good facade about an issue here and there, but at the end of the day, nothing changes. The government's job is to create and exacerbate problems, because it is in any government's best interest to do so.

If the government solved our problems, there would be no further need for government. It's just like any organism that wants to survive, and will do anything it can to continue doing so.

So, our problems are here to stay.

Anyway, that's the gist of my "Mother of All Conspiracies"...I'm running out of space and I'm sure no one's read this far anyway. If you have read this far, thank you for your time and consideration. I know in my heart of hearts that even if all of this is patently untrue, I am, nonetheless, onto something here. At any rate, I do believe that whether or not I'm right, the veil is indeed beginning to drop..

[Hit Em Up Style]

Its sounds a bit too extreme for me. Not sure if I believe it.

[Skyclad]

It sounds like the ramblings of a mad conspiracy nut - but I suspect there are nuggets of truth hidden in there.

[smudges dad]

It's a conspiracy by the makers of tin foil, so we continue to make hats out of it

[Martin Blank]

Why not just write a film instead?

Better still, take all that energy you're putting into this and do something good with it. Like work out how to feed a billion people for nothing. Or how to provide clean drinking water for those that don't have it.

Just a couple of ideas.

[Sh-sh-Shaun]

I see that as just being the way it is rather than a 'conspiracy theory', which is a really loose term anyway.

Oxford Dictionary:

A belief that some covert but influential organization is responsible for an unexplained event.

Merriam Webster:

A theory that explains an event or set of circumstances as the result of a secret plot by usually powerful conspirators

American Heritage Dictionary:

A theory seeking to explain a disputed case or matter as a plot by a secret group or alliance rather than an individual or isolated act.

Collins English Dictionary:

the belief that the government or a covert organization is responsible for an event that is unusual or unexplained, esp when any such involvement is denied.

From those four definitions you can conclude that it's usually some kind of secret, the exact definition of who can be a subject of a conspiracy theory is open to interpretation from just 'governments' to 'usually powerful conspirators'. And it doesn't really say whether any proof is required or how many people need to believe it in order for it to be a conspiracy theory.

I guess the point I'm trying to make with this is that you can twist these definitions to mean anything you want them to mean. You could argue that the 9/11 attacks are a 'disputed case' (I understand this argument is kind of flawed because it's a case only disputed by "conspiracy theorists" I guess..) and that would form the basis to suggest that it is a "conspiracy theory" that a group of terrorists (part of a secret/influential alliance or group) are responsible for an event that is unusual (or unexplained). In a way you can say that everyone who holds beliefs about anything without actual proof is a conspiracy theorist, if you're going by these definitions alone. Lately though it seems to be used in a derogatory way. All I'm really saying is that you can say one thing but mean another, like how in some countries something is a 'protest' but in other countries it is a 'revolution' when the protests/revolutions are largely often in response to similar actions from differing governments.

In terms of the thread topic - I just find it hard to believe that people are just that wholly competent! And if they are, there would have to be a significant amount of people 'in on it' to be keeping the veil up as it were and in an era of mass communication I just think any kind of huge secrets would be out in no time. I won't dispute however that people everywhere are getting sick of it all and realising what a sham it all is etc. but I suppose that much is true for every generation.

[Lain Andrews]

No point trying to educate DS members here mate, tried it before, you will only get ridiculed.

[Scotty2012]

Originally Posted by Lain Andrews

No point trying to educate DS members here mate, tried it before, you will only get ridiculed.

Thanks. I tried

[slyfox51]

What is the alternative to a 40 hour working week? An 80 hour week that our grandparents did!

[Voynich]

Surely that title belongs to David Icke's Mother?

[johnnybgoode83]

The mother of all conspiracies is the desire of governments to control the internet using the smoke screens of 'piracy' and 'terrorism'.

[Trsvis_Bickle]

Well, that's a bit of a letdown, given the thread title. So much stupidity that it's difficult to know where to start.

It's ironic that your blogger places so much importance on understanding history when he himself has such a feeble grasp of it. The emergence of the modern mixed economy, the model for most of the West, is not the result of a conspiracy. That's just absurd. Even the writer's evidence for his hypothesis is laughable. Hemp is illegal because if it wasn't we could all make our own clothes and put Marks & Spencer out of business? Ridiculous.

As for the Government making history and mathematics 'unapproachable', how exactly was this brilliant feat achieved? There is probably more interest in history now than at any other time in human existence; look at the TV coverage of the subject. A bit of an 'epic fail' there, as your f*ckwit blogger would no doubt describe it.

Mathematics is difficult, not because it has been made so by curriculum writers but because it demands a certain level of intellectual ability that not everyone has. Did these conspirators also make quantum mechanics and relativity theory deliberately difficult as well? Anyway, why make mathematics unapproachable in the first place? The writer says that understanding maths 'makes it easier to spot when we're being lied to'. How, exactly? Sure, you can spot dodgy statistics used to support a false argument but most of us are capable of doing that anyway.

Are you sure that this wasn't written by some kid who is crap at history and maths and seeking some justification for it?

[spiney2]

george orwell said it better.

http://www.george-orwell.org/James_B...olution/0.html

[spiney2]

maths is abstract logical patterns. and numeracy is being able to count. currently schools seem to teach neither of these.

a good approach to maths is via engineering - you can see the practical use - but schools dont teach that either.

schools are run either by people obsessed with "educational theory or by idealogues (eg ranting religious nutters).

[spiney2]

the op seeems to be advocating agrarian paradise ?

http://www.criticalenquiry.org/theory/society.shtml

physiocracy ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physiocracy

but things like science and modern medicine and technology very much depend on industrial mass production .......

[spiney2]

for school history i did uk industrial revolution. which again was all names and dates .......

[bugloss]

that wasn't the Unabomber was it?

[jasvinyl]

I didn't make it.

[India_Rain]

Well, I enjoyed reading it. Thanks OP.

[crista_galli]

Is this person based in the USA?
Anyway, I'll only comment on general stuff then.


"For the ones smart enough to ask questions, they instituted the standard 40 hour work week to keep us too busy and tired from scrambling around to ask questions."

The 40 hour week was a reduction of the appalling working hours before that, an improvement – so based on that and the argument this person is trying to make, you could argue that the 40 hour week was to ENCOURAGE questions and critical thinking. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight-hour_day)


"Public schooling was instituted to indoctrinate us into a culture that submits to authority and discourages critical and free thinking."

I didn’t know comunism was rife in western schools! Because this sounds exactly like schooling in comunist countries. I completely disagree with that.
I also have had the opportunity to speak with an American teacher and I understood that free thinking and creativity is more than encouraged. She was quite frustrated the curriculum takes a back seat, in fact. Maybe that was just in her state, maybe just in her school. But still...


"History class was notoriously all about memorizing names and dates."

Of course, it’s history not fantasy class! You can’t debate history!
History and mathematics are not creative subjects. It seems this person wants these subjects to be creative and also seems he had trouble through school and did not do very well. Bitter? Sounds so to me.


"They engineered a lot of racial tension as well"

Oh, please!!! If this person would be any good at history (oh, the irony) and at sociology, would see where racism comes from.


"Look how hard it is to generate your own power. To grow your own food. To stitch your own clothes. To live without a car or a residency."

Don’t know about power, but it extremely easy to grow your own food and stitch your own clothes, and whilst I feel somewhat restricted by not having a car it’s certainly not hard without one.


I would also very much like to see his arguments to support that there isn't much difference between Bush and Obama - not because I don't believe it, but because I'm curious.

[Lizzy11268]

Sorry lost me around word 5.

[Ted Cunterblast]

Originally Posted by Scotty2012

Thanks. I tried

And failed - you are sadly typical of someone who reads something on the web, decides to believe it, and posts it on here telling us we should read it and it will change our minds.

I never understand why people like yourself assume everyone thinks the same way - you read a piece of text and form your opinion of it, but why assume other will come to the same conclusion as you?

Like most conspiracy theories, it is full of innacuracies and contradictions, and crucially contains no facts whatsoever, merely opinion.

By all means believe it if you want, but as you will see from many of the replies on here, very few people agree with your post.

[Ted Cunterblast]

Originally Posted by Lain Andrews

No point trying to educate DS members here mate, tried it before, you will only get ridiculed.

And ask yourself why you get ridiculed? Because you post stuff on here as truth and fact with nothing to back it up, and yet assume everyone will agree with you and believe what you post/claim.

And when people disagree with you and pull your ridiculous posts apart, you don't like it.

It will be a sad day indeed when any of us would need to rely on people like you for our 'education'.

[Lizzy11268]

Originally Posted by Ted Cunterblast

And ask yourself why you get ridiculed? Because you post stuff on here as truth and fact with nothing to back it up, and yet assume everyone will agree with you and believe what you post/claim.

And when people disagree with you and pull your ridiculous posts apart, you don't like it.

It will be a sad day indeed when any of us would need to rely on people like you for our 'education'.

I love a good conspiracy theory me, but I couldnt even get through this one. Very convoluted. Or just boring perhaps.

[Trsvis_Bickle]

Mind you, although the post quoted by the OP is mind-numbingly stupid, the posts that follow on the abovetopsecret site are hilarious.

If anyone needed proof that conspiracy theories appeal to the feeble-minded, there's plenty of it on there.