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Old 09-05-2012, 11:36
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Did she actually claim on air to be broadcasting from Cornwall, or just TO Cornwall. Because if it's the former that's misleading.
Even if she said she was in the studio of Heart Cornwall, it wouldn't strictly be untrue.
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Old 09-05-2012, 12:04
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Even if she said she was in the studio of Heart Cornwall, it wouldn't strictly be untrue.
That wasn't my question.
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Old 09-05-2012, 13:03
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Victoria never implied she was in Cornwall when I listened for a while yesterday. She mentioned Cornwall a lot but that is her role. She still lives in Cornwall so has every right to talk about it. I'm sure she is switched on enough to know you can't lie and get away with it.
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Old 09-05-2012, 13:33
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That wasn't my question.
It wasn't aimed at you. More adding onto what you'd put.
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Old 10-05-2012, 21:03
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Nice pic of Victoria's Exeter studio on Twitter https://twitter.com/#!/DJVictoriaLei.../photo/1/large
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Old 10-05-2012, 22:10
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With no presenter....then again, I guess that's how it is for the majority of the day, every day....
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Old 10-05-2012, 22:59
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Why do people keep banging on about Heart being networked. Commercial Radio Stations are business which need to make a profit and provide a return for their backers. They also need to attract large advertising contracts.

I have listened to stations which operate on a small scale. Most of their outputs our Jockless (UKRD stations as an example). Would you prefer a presenter on 24/7, albeit networked or VT'd during the nights, with local drive and breakfast, or would you prefer stations to stay local with no presenter there for much of the day.

Small commercial stations are all loosing money, and eventually they will fold, just leaving community stations providing local output.

The only station which works well without presenters for the most part is the Jack Stations. They are relatively low cost to operate, and the Brand Name is well known, which attracts advertising, even some national ads.

Oh and hello everyone
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Old 11-05-2012, 00:45
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Precisely. I know I said I wouldn't come back, but... I've got a real problem with this.

On the subject of no presenter - Jack FM (an automated jukebox outside of breakfast) is up for a myriad of awards at the Aquivas. I'd like to know how that's even possible.

Jack FM claims to be a local alternative - indeed it made much of Fox FM's demise on the original station in Oxford - but, really... come on. It's a station that might as well shut up and go home at 9am. Non-stop music with just a few liners from the Peter Dickson-esque fella being a bit witty and dry?

When I can have great music coupled with great content from first-class presenters plus all the local news and travel I need on Heart? And full local coverage of anything that kicks off locally by use of Smart Networking?

I'm afraid when it comes down to a jukebox in the TSA or a human being in Leicester Square, the human wins.
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Old 11-05-2012, 00:51
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Why do people keep banging on about Heart being networked. Commercial Radio Stations are business which need to make a profit and provide a return for their backers. They also need to attract large advertising contracts.

I have listened to stations which operate on a small scale. Most of their outputs our Jockless (UKRD stations as an example). Would you prefer a presenter on 24/7, albeit networked or VT'd during the nights, with local drive and breakfast, or would you prefer stations to stay local with no presenter there for much of the day.

Small commercial stations are all loosing money, and eventually they will fold, just leaving community stations providing local output.

The only station which works well without presenters for the most part is the Jack Stations. They are relatively low cost to operate, and the Brand Name is well known, which attracts advertising, even some national ads.

Oh and hello everyone
Yes there are stations that are losing money, and yes the commercial part of the name does indicate that they aren't in it just because they love radio and actually want to make some money at the end of the day. But it is a bit rich for someone to call what Global broadcast as local radio when so much of it is produced so far away. What will also annoy some people is that Global appear to have enough money to pay one of their directors 3.3m (despite a large loss) and then El Presidente or whatever title Ashley is using this week, comes out with this regarding the decision to get rid of a load of presenters around the country.

Originally Posted by Guardian Newspaper
And on the decision to syndicate programming across the network, Tabor said: "I'm afraid to say there are not 33 good mid-morning presenters in this country and there are not another 33 good afternoon presenters. I wish there were, but there aren't.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010...apital-rebrand

Now that's the way to get staff motivated
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Old 11-05-2012, 00:58
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Precisely. I know I said I wouldn't come back, but... I've got a real problem with this.

On the subject of no presenter - Jack FM (an automated jukebox outside of breakfast) is up for a myriad of awards at the Aquivas. I'd like to know how that's even possible.

Jack FM claims to be a local alternative - indeed it made much of Fox FM's demise on the original station in Oxford - but, really... come on. It's a station that might as well shut up and go home at 9am. Non-stop music with just a few liners from the Peter Dickson-esque fella being a bit witty and dry?

When I can have great music coupled with great content from first-class presenters plus all the local news and travel I need on Heart? And full local coverage of anything that kicks off locally by use of Smart Networking?

I'm afraid when it comes down to a jukebox in the TSA or a human being in Leicester Square, the human wins.
I agree with the statement that the human wins. It's better to have a Jock on 24/7, and like you say networked with split links.

JackFM offers an alternative. They target middle aged men. In the area they serve, they are very quick to react with their listeners via social media, such as facebook and twitter outside the breakfast show. A lot of the Target Audience all say to me, they like the station, they find the strap lines funny, and they like the music that is played, as its an alternative to other stations, who mainly target a female audience.

JackFM Oxfordshire deserves these nominations. When there is braking news, they are on it straight away. They deliver the what's on's, news and travel very effectively. They are also out there in the community quite a bit
The Breakfast show is a great listen, always good to wake up to.

There is a place for both formats, as they are two different formats, it gives listens a choice, during the day, I will listen to Jack, and at night, I tune into Club Classics on heart.
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Old 11-05-2012, 01:13
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"I'm afraid to say there are not 33 good mid-morning presenters in this country and there are not another 33 good afternoon presenters. I wish there were, but there aren't."
18 months on this is such a poisonous comment. I like what Global Radio do. But I have no respect, no respect at all, for anyone who even thinks this, let alone has the bollocks to say it.
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Old 11-05-2012, 02:03
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And to answer Capitallife's point about motivation.......he didn't need to motivate them.......he just sacked them all instead and replaced them with networking.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:13
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On the subject of no presenter - Jack FM (an automated jukebox outside of breakfast) is up for a myriad of awards at the Aquivas. I'd like to know how that's even possible.
Jack have found a cost effective way of delivering local radio and they seem to be getting an audience, not unlike the Heart brand that you're so fond of. They also react when needed and if someone locally kicks off they'll be able to respond as well as Heart.

They are doing it differently and as someone else has already said they are targeting a male audience which provides choice. I'd love to see a Heart and a Jack in every market because they target a different audience and can both be winners.

They qualify for the arquivas because the station is well programmed with a fantastic breakfast show and healthy rajars which means people want to listen to it. In case you hadn't noticed this is the point of commercial radio. If you make more than you spend and have a good audience then what more do you need to do?

You seem to have a lot of issues anyway but I really struggle to understand your objection to Jack FM. You may not like it but there's also a Heart in the area for you to listen to and the BBC (which would be my personal choice).
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:16
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What will also annoy some people is that Global appear to have enough money to pay one of their directors 3.3m (despite a large loss) and then El Presidente or whatever title Ashley is using this week, comes out with this regarding the decision to get rid of a load of presenters around the country.
I would take a closer look at those Global accounts if I were you, they aren't quite what they seem at first sight.

Global made an operating profit of 21 million in the year, but there is an accounting provision of 50m deducted after operating profit for interest on the loans made to the company by the shareholders, which may be paid sometime in the future.
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:33
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Precisely. I know I said I wouldn't come back, but... I've got a real problem with this.

On the subject of no presenter - Jack FM (an automated jukebox outside of breakfast) is up for a myriad of awards at the Aquivas. I'd like to know how that's even possible.

Jack FM claims to be a local alternative - indeed it made much of Fox FM's demise on the original station in Oxford - but, really... come on. It's a station that might as well shut up and go home at 9am. Non-stop music with just a few liners from the Peter Dickson-esque fella being a bit witty and dry?

I'm afraid when it comes down to a jukebox in the TSA or a human being in Leicester Square, the human wins.
Don't you just.

What a load of bitter old nonsense. Jack provides local content through whats ons and listings, and quality local news through the day. The same applies to the Jack formats running in Bristol and Suthampton.

You previously called Jack a fad format. Well, perhaps that's what the UK media landscape needs.
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Old 11-05-2012, 11:51
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You previously called Jack a fad format.
I did. It's one of two (the other being the "Z100 CHR" format) that's come across the Atlantic.

I suppose it's different because we've normally imported our formats from Australia.
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Old 11-05-2012, 14:15
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I would take a closer look at those Global accounts if I were you, they aren't quite what they seem at first sight.

Global made an operating profit of 21 million in the year, but there is an accounting provision of 50m deducted after operating profit for interest on the loans made to the company by the shareholders, which may be paid sometime in the future.
If I was a shareholder and I saw the phrase "may be paid" in any accounts where I had loaned that company money I'd be starting to wonder. The business wouldn't be where it was without those loans and so whatever 'operating profit' they made has to be offset in my mind by the large chunk of debt. Global overpaid for GCap Media and the debt that they built up to do that (and buy Chrysalis) can't just be put to one side and ignored. Unless of course Ashley's dad and his mates are going to let him off all the loans, do Lloyds still have any loans to Global?
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Old 11-05-2012, 15:32
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As long as Global can service the interest payments on the loans it's a moot point as the likes of Lloyds won't be bothered because they'll earn more from interest payments in the long run.
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Old 17-05-2012, 14:19
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If anyone is able to see the PI codes, do both 105.1 and 107 end in 69?
C36D switched: C56D
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Old 19-05-2012, 00:09
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So will not toggle between Devon & Cornwall then?

As expected, the comments on Facebook have stopped.
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Old 19-05-2012, 02:57
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They would, eventually, once people realised that on the whole, they were getting an improved service.
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Old 19-05-2012, 16:49
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So will not toggle between Devon & Cornwall then?

As expected, the comments on Facebook have stopped.
It doesn't seem to toggle between the 2. Except I hit the Plymouth Heart preset button on my car stereo in the middle of Cornwall, and it found Heart Cornwall, and then jumped to the DAB service too. So I guess it's in the AF list? Haven't quite worked it out yet. But there's still no link in Plymouth between the FM and DAB except during the adverts, which is annoying, especially as some parts of Plymouth were better served from Caradon which now serves Cornwall, so it doesn't switch.
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Old 14-08-2012, 12:51
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That didn't take long, then

http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/bin...t_Cornwall.pdf
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Old 14-08-2012, 13:14
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What does this mean for news etc?

Find it quite ironic that I'm in Cornwall this week.
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Old 14-08-2012, 13:27
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What does this mean for news etc?

Find it quite ironic that I'm in Cornwall this week.
There are no major changes proposed in the news section of the document - so as is now.
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