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Old 08-05-2012, 23:21
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It doesn't deserve to be saved, though the thicker ones do possibly need couple more weeks to see it.
Nah. Even if they never sort out the format, I would still watch the beginning of The Voice to watch the turning chairs and as some of the battles were superb this year, I would still watch that too.

Btw, as you do hate The Voice so much, why do you hang around here
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Old 08-05-2012, 23:21
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But before all The Voice 'haters' in this forum rub their hands in glee, I want to stress that I do actually like the show; it just needs to iron out a few wrinkles...
The biggest wrinkle being, that it exists.
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Old 08-05-2012, 23:22
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Perhaps we could just have the chairs back?
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Old 08-05-2012, 23:24
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Perhaps we could just have the chairs back?
You are another The Voice hater aren't you?

Edit: I am truly not sure. I'm just clarifying
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Old 08-05-2012, 23:26
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You are another The Voice hater aren't you?

Edit: I am truly not sure. I'm just clarifying
Well, if you read my threads, clearly not. I want it to work and I want the BBC to take some elementary steps to put it right. A lot of people on here have some really good suggestions that should be taken notice of.
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Old 08-05-2012, 23:27
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You are another The Voice hater aren't you?

Edit: I am truly not sure. I'm just clarifying
the chairs comment was just a flippant remark as they are the one constant that so far everybody has liked. Which makes them undoubtedly the most expensive chairs in history.
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Old 08-05-2012, 23:28
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The Voice does have flaws but complaining that Danny's team will be in it for too long? What??? Danny has the best team!

And it also fails to address that it is weak because the team concept means 'talented people' leave the competition whilst less talented people remain in the competition. For me this is it's biggest hurdle....

But before all The Voice 'haters' in this forum rub their hands in glee, I want to stress that I do actually like the show; it just needs to iron out a few wrinkles...
I agree that team Danny is by far the best but the point general still stands.

Personally, I think that if they're going to stick with the idea of teams losing members at an equal rate (and it's such a key part of the format I can't really see how they can get away from it), then they shouldn't allow the judges to chose who goes home every week, it should be left entirely up to public vote. At the moment it just doesn't feel like the public have any say and a judge can take someone who gets the fewest public votes all the way to the final if they want to.
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Old 08-05-2012, 23:28
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the chairs comment was just a flippant remark as they are the one constant that so far everybody has liked. Which makes them undoubtedly the most expensive chairs in history.
Well for me, seeing Danny in one of those chairs practically makes it worth it
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Old 08-05-2012, 23:31
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Well, if you read my threads, clearly not. I want it to work and I want the BBC to take some elementary steps to put it right. A lot of people on here have some really good suggestions that should be taken notice of.
I completely agree with you penelopesimpson.

I really hope the The Voice makes the necessary adjustments to make this a really great show
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Old 08-05-2012, 23:40
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I agree that team Danny is by far the best but the point general still stands.

Personally, I think that if they're going to stick with the idea of teams losing members at an equal rate (and it's such a key part of the format I can't really see how they can get away from it), then they shouldn't allow the judges to chose who goes home every week, it should be left entirely up to public vote. At the moment it just doesn't feel like the public have any say and a judge can take someone who gets the fewest public votes all the way to the final if they want to.
The team format is definitely flawed and I hope when the BBC bought the format, that it included the option to change this part of it...
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Old 08-05-2012, 23:50
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Dont know if its just me its only Danny I take notice of.

Tom seems to namedrop like he's proving to the audience he deserves to be there.
Jessie J i truly dont see the point of her being there
this sounds so crazy but does anyone else think he doesnt like Holly? his replies to her are so short
and really quite abrupt.(will.I.am)

Keep Danny (and tom if he stops with the name dropping) Jessie though has to go massive error as a judge.I doubt Will would be back for another series the bbc look daft paying him when he's back in the USA

*another thing not helping is the fact Holly cant talk about the show on This morning...its the most sureal thing going hearing her say 'I will be watching on saturday night' about BGT knowing the trouble theres been and the fact its on a rival station.

Any bets shes back on DOI? holly has more of a future with ITV than the BBC
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Old 09-05-2012, 00:03
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I'm not pro or anti anything about this show but I've drifted away and have given a bit of thought as to why.

I didn't mind it to start with but found it a little uncomfortable when no-one turned around.

Jesse J I like but she's soooooooo annoying on this and takes herself far too seriously singing along to everything.

Tom jones is cool but the Elvis thing got dull quickly.

Although Holly is bloomin stunning I found she just asked the same question 'the decision must be harder than ever' etc etc

It claimed to be totally different to x factor but seems pretty darn similar to me. They're even offering tickets for the arena tour! I can't see them flying off the shelves.

I think it's a combination of lots of littles that made a big. I just stopped watching and didn't really notice I had. It just doesn't feel quite right.
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Old 09-05-2012, 03:13
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If they could liven the show up a bit, make it worth paying attention to, then they'll see the ratings improve. Last weeks show, I couldn't give a toss who sung what or who went, I even strayed to reading a book when Cassius and some other dude/girl was on. Just was NOT interested, wasn't gripped, wasn't bothered. And considering I had such high hopes for this show having heard about it way back in November last year, possibly earlier, I can't quite remember, I remember telling my Mum about how awesome and how different it would be to all the other reality "talent" shows, and how much I was looking forward to it. The audition shows were great, the chemistry between the judges was brilliant, and then moving into the live shows, it's just kinda boring.
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Old 09-05-2012, 11:51
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I'm not pro or anti anything about this show but I've drifted away and have given a bit of thought as to why.

I didn't mind it to start with but found it a little uncomfortable when no-one turned around.

Jesse J I like but she's soooooooo annoying on this and takes herself far too seriously singing along to everything.

Tom jones is cool but the Elvis thing got dull quickly.

Although Holly is bloomin stunning I found she just asked the same question 'the decision must be harder than ever' etc etc

It claimed to be totally different to x factor but seems pretty darn similar to me. They're even offering tickets for the arena tour! I can't see them flying off the shelves.

I think it's a combination of lots of littles that made a big. I just stopped watching and didn't really notice I had. It just doesn't feel quite right.
This. I have given up X Factor, that is a total farce now, but I did have high hopes for The Voice...and I just feel 'meh' about it.
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Old 09-05-2012, 12:07
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I agree that team Danny is by far the best but the point general still stands.

Personally, I think that if they're going to stick with the idea of teams losing members at an equal rate (and it's such a key part of the format I can't really see how they can get away from it), then they shouldn't allow the judges to chose who goes home every week, it should be left entirely up to public vote. At the moment it just doesn't feel like the public have any say and a judge can take someone who gets the fewest public votes all the way to the final if they want to.
Curiously, the only finalist on the US version whose performances were all enjoyable (they sang three songs each), was the finalist put through by the coach and not the public. I'd say he has been the most consistent over the entire season too.

The fact that the picks are about the credibility of the coaches is what sets The Voice apart from some other singing competitions. It would be awful to leave it entirely in the hands of a public who gave us Leon Jackson, Little Mix, Matt Cardle, Joe McElderry (for example).
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Old 09-05-2012, 12:13
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Curiously, the only finalist on the US version whose performances were all enjoyable (they sang three songs each), was the finalist put through by the coach and not the public. I'd say he has been the most consistent over the entire season too.

The fact that the picks are about the credibility of the coaches is what sets The Voice apart from some other singing competitions. It would be awful to leave it entirely in the hands of a public who gave us Leon Jackson, Little Mix, Matt Cardle, Joe McElderry (for example).
^^^ This. I think there are obviously going to be flaws in this system utilised by the coaches, not just to set them apart from other singing competition, you'll at least get the finalists who would be credible.

But whatever the case, oftentimes it's the runner-ups who went on to do better than the winner. I don't know why this is oftentimes the case, but hey, I supposed people do vote with their emotions and support the 'underdogs', and I don't think this is just confined to the viewers in the UK.
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Old 09-05-2012, 12:41
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Dont know if its just me its only Danny I take notice of.

Tom seems to namedrop like he's proving to the audience he deserves to be there.
Jessie J i truly dont see the point of her being there
this sounds so crazy but does anyone else think he doesnt like Holly? his replies to her are so short
and really quite abrupt.(will.I.am)

Keep Danny (and tom if he stops with the name dropping) Jessie though has to go massive error as a judge.I doubt Will would be back for another series the bbc look daft paying him when he's back in the USA

*another thing not helping is the fact Holly cant talk about the show on This morning...its the most sureal thing going hearing her say 'I will be watching on saturday night' about BGT knowing the trouble theres been and the fact its on a rival station.

Any bets shes back on DOI? holly has more of a future with ITV than the BBC
Yes I think she will go back to DOI......Pity I really am no fan of Ms HW.
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Old 09-05-2012, 12:44
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^^^ This. I think there are obviously going to be flaws in this system utilised by the coaches, not just to set them apart from other singing competition, you'll at least get the finalists who would be credible.

But whatever the case, oftentimes it's the runner-ups who went on to do better than the winner. I don't know why this is oftentimes the case, but hey, I supposed people do vote with their emotions and support the 'underdogs', and I don't think this is just confined to the viewers in the UK.
It's most likely because of the repeat dialing phenomenon. And not just the lovestruck teenage girls using up their phone credits to vote for a young male, or getting behind Little Mix as a feminist girl power statement. It can also be complicated by betting odds - running up a 100 phone bill might seem worthwhile if you think you'll increase your chance of having a good pay-out at the bookies.

The runner-up, or even 3rd or 4th placed finalist, may have a more reliable 'popularity', and that better translates into record sales.
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Old 09-05-2012, 12:56
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It's most likely because of the repeat dialing phenomenon, and not just the lovestruck teenage girls using up their phone credits to vote for a young male, or getting behind Little Mix as a feminist girl power statement, it can also be complicated by betting odds - running up a 100 phone bill might seem worthwhile if you think you'll increase your chance of having a good pay-out at the bookies.

The runner-up, or even 3rd or 4th placed finalist, may have a more reliable 'popularity', and that better translates into record sales.
I think you are dead right here. With these shows, you certainly do not need to win to be successful. You only need to gain enough loyal fans during your air time.

This is also a really good reason why it is important to be gracious after you leave a show which Hannah got right when she left The Voice.

In Hannah's case, I personally doubt she will be the next big star (although I could be wrong!) but if some of the others copy her behaviour when they leave, I do think there is real potential after The Voice for quite a few of them in the music industry
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Old 09-05-2012, 13:31
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Really love The Voice. Don't understand what all the fuss is about, don't care if Holly wears a plunging neckline or not, or if the results show is recorded on a Saturday, because imo its the only sane and feasible option. Really looking forward to next week. Loving most of the judges! particularly Tom!
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Old 09-05-2012, 13:45
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It's still new and next year it should be better. It was never going to be great in its 1st year.

If they could improve i would change the presenters.
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Old 09-05-2012, 13:54
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It's most likely because of the repeat dialing phenomenon. And not just the lovestruck teenage girls using up their phone credits to vote for a young male, or getting behind Little Mix as a feminist girl power statement. It can also be complicated by betting odds - running up a 100 phone bill might seem worthwhile if you think you'll increase your chance of having a good pay-out at the bookies.

The runner-up, or even 3rd or 4th placed finalist, may have a more reliable 'popularity', and that better translates into record sales.
That's very true. The number of votes isn't the same as the number of fans. I'll bear that in mind if my favourite gets voted off. I think there are quite a few finalists who will get record deals.
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Old 09-05-2012, 14:03
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Curiously, the only finalist on the US version whose performances were all enjoyable (they sang three songs each), was the finalist put through by the coach and not the public. I'd say he has been the most consistent over the entire season too.

The fact that the picks are about the credibility of the coaches is what sets The Voice apart from some other singing competitions. It would be awful to leave it entirely in the hands of a public who gave us Leon Jackson, Little Mix, Matt Cardle, Joe McElderry (for example).
I completely agree with your point about the public not always chosing the 'right' winner (although to be fair everyone so far from The Voice has flopped too, right?), but that's not quite what I meant. One of the biggest problems of the show is that there's no reason to care about any of the performers as individuals because the public involvement is overly complicated and, basically, doesn't matter until the finale.

I think my idea of elimination purely by public vote might improve things. It might not and feel free to disagree about that, but I do think something really needs to be done to get people to care about the contestants. At the moment everyone feels really expendable and I feel even less involved in the show than I did in the auditions.
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Old 09-05-2012, 15:21
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Nah. Even if they never sort out the format, I would still watch the beginning of The Voice to watch the turning chairs and as some of the battles were superb this year, I would still watch that too.

Btw, as you do hate The Voice so much, why do you hang around here
If they get rid of Tom and Jessy J ..... I will watch the next series .
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Old 09-05-2012, 15:24
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I completely agree with your point about the public not always chosing the 'right' winner (although to be fair everyone so far from The Voice has flopped too, right?), but that's not quite what I meant. One of the biggest problems of the show is that there's no reason to care about any of the performers as individuals because the public involvement is overly complicated and, basically, doesn't matter until the finale.

I think my idea of elimination purely by public vote might improve things. It might not and feel free to disagree about that, but I do think something really needs to be done to get people to care about the contestants. At the moment everyone feels really expendable and I feel even less involved in the show than I did in the auditions.
Well, we are all different and sorry but I don't agree with the BIB. I do care who wins. I have one particular favourite who I'd like to win or come 2nd, and a few others who would be worthy winners. I don't think people would vote on DS polls if they didn't have favourites. (I know we are not the general public though).

Also, sorry to disagree again, but I don't like the idea of a purely public vote. I think we have all seen what that has lead to in the past. (100's of teenage girls repeat dialing). I trust that the coaches, who have worked with them for weeks, know the contestants better than I do, and as musicians, can judge their musical talent better than I. (This just applies to The Voice coaches though) But, to have some participation by the public is good and keeps the public involved.
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