[PeterB]

Originally Posted by GPW

The cost of running the BBC's offices has risen by 39 per cent since its decision to move a bulk of its programmes to Manchester, the public spending watchdog says.

Oh well so much for savings.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/t...lson-quit.html

A BBC spokesman said: “The NAO has recognised the significant reductions in costs we have made in our support services since 2006. Once the transitional period in the BBC estate is over and the short term building projects have been finished, the overall operations costs will have significantly reduced, enabling annual recurring savings of £47m p.a. from 2016/7.”

[T33TLE]

I find Carols weather slot tedious in the extreme. 5 minutes is way too long, especially as the regional updated every half hour cover it in more than enough detail. And her rambling on coincides with the advert breaks on ITV and SKY which rule out channel hopping. Other than that,I prefer the Salford set and overall show. Sian did nothing for me and Louise is way better. The new business girl talks sense and it way easier on the eye than the chap with no neck!

[mossy2103]

Originally Posted by T33TLE

I find Carols weather slot tedious in the extreme. 5 minutes is way too long,

It's not 5 minutes though is it. A couple of minutes I would have said.

[T33TLE]

It seems like that much! Rock Radio has the best weather idea. 5 word weather! Sunny but clouding over later. Raining all day and tomorrow. Enough said.
Although I am going to time it now if I can sit through her droning on for a full report!

[mossy2103]

Originally Posted by T33TLE

It seems like that much! Rock Radio has the best weather idea. 5 word weather! Sunny but clouding over later. Raining all day and tomorrow. Enough said.
Although I am going to time it now if I can sit through her droning on for a full report!

the thing is that many people want different things from the weather forecast, some want a general overview, some want a more regional view, some want a view encompassing a few regions (they might be travelling), others want to know what weather is approaching (to be with them later), whilst others want a more detailed national and regional view, sometimes covering a 12 or 18 hour period. The forecast cannot be all things to all men.

Perhaps you should stick with Rock Radio.

[Straker]

Originally Posted by T33TLE

Other than that,I prefer the Salford set and overall show.

It’s not a set, it’s a temporarily unused broom cupboard. Had to laugh at the BBC bod on Newswatch not so long ago being forced to admit through gritted teeth that the Manchester set is significantly smaller than the London one. They’re so used to breezing onto Snoddy’s show, denying any fault, disparaging the idiot viewers and then buggering off. Nearly gave the poor chap a stroke to admit the viewers were totally right.

All the BBC’s news studios are terrible and deathly dull save the Sports News centre which has clearly taken some cues for Sky’s presentational styles. Why the Sports one gets the Starship Enterprise treatment but the others get nothing I don’t know.

[Glomper]

You mean the Sports News Centre, which feeds into BBC News based in London, which is based in Salford, but yet this never gets a mention.

You'd have thought with Manchester United & Manchester City nearby they'd be proud of their location.

At least we get local girl the lovely Sally on the Sofa on BBC Breakfast, from Salford !

She is a real delight to work with too.

[Glomper]

Can't they get anyone else to work Sundays ?

Locals Roger Johnson & Sally Nugent on today 13th May.

Nice to see local talent, well Sally anyway.

[mossy2103]

Originally Posted by Glomper

Can't they get anyone else to work Sundays ?

Holidays?

Shift patterns?

Illness?

Other broadcasting commitments elsewhere?

[Glomper]

☆'s don't work weekends in Manchester ?

There are more important matters today !

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb.html

I bet you'll copy ☆'s in a reply !

Having missed the point totally...

Originally Posted by Glomper

Locals Roger Johnson & Sally Nugent on today 13th May.

Nice to see local talent, well Sally anyway.

[mossy2103]

Originally Posted by Glomper

☆'s don't work weekends in Manchester ?

Regardless of whether it's a weekend or not in Manchester,

☆'s don't have holidays?

☆'s don't work (& cover) shift patterns?

☆'s don't have illnesses?

☆'s don't have other broadcasting commitments elsewhere (sometimes)?

Maybe even one of the ☆'s due to present could not get in for whatever reason and the BBC had to draft in another presenter at very short notice?


Really, I can't see what the issue is here (especially as you have worked within the industry)

[i4u]

This two are dreadful...of the interviews I've seen they speak more than the guests..why can't they just ask a question without throwing an opinion?

It got worse during Phil Redmond's review of the papers....he would start reading out the headline of a story and one of them would finnish it off....bizarre.

These two would fit in well with the highly acclaimed Daybreak on ITV.

[darnall42]

today's programe has been dreadful,surely thay could have found better stand ins than those two

[DVDfever]

Originally Posted by T33TLE

I find Carols weather slot tedious in the extreme. 5 minutes is way too long

They last 2 mins max, not five minutes!

Originally Posted by GPW

The cost of running the BBC's offices has risen by 39 per cent since its decision to move a bulk of its programmes to Manchester, the public spending watchdog says.

Oh well so much for savings.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/t...lson-quit.html

Savings will be over a period of X years, not instantly(!)

Originally Posted by ftv

I think one of Breakfast's best coups of recent years was to get Harrison Ford in the London studio doing links and promoting his (then) new film....Daybreak

That was good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDYIwjICNJE

[NeilVW]

Originally Posted by ftv

I think one of Breakfast's best coups of recent years was to get Harrison Ford in the London studio doing links and promoting his (then) new film....Daybreak

The film was Morning Glory, and it was about a struggling breakfast show called Daybreak! Released in the US a couple of months after the real Daybreak launched here.

Apparently there was a 6-7am segment of TV-am called Daybreak for a short time in the 1980s.

Source: Wikipedia

Incidentally does anyone know why the ITV breakfast licence has run until 9.25am since forever? Seems a random time.

[DVDfever]

Originally Posted by NeilVW

Incidentally does anyone know why the ITV breakfast licence has run until 9.25am since forever? Seems a random time.

When I was growing up in the 70s and 80s, TV schedules were all over the place like that. All day. It's just a remnant of that.

[epm-84]

Originally Posted by Glomper

You'd have thought with Manchester United & Manchester City nearby they'd be proud of their location.

And Lancashire County Cricket Club, which also gets used for internationals.

At least we get local girl the lovely Sally on the Sofa on BBC Breakfast, from Salford !

Someone from the Wirral working in Salford is not normally seen as 'local' even though it is the same political region.

[epm-84]

Originally Posted by Glomper

☆'s don't work weekends in Manchester?

Saturday is covered by weekday Breakfast presenters. Sunday is covered by different presenters. It was the same situation in London.

Really they need 6 people familiar with the role to cover holidays and sickness and provide a service 7 days a week.

[Dan's Dad]

Originally Posted by NeilVW

Incidentally does anyone know why the ITV breakfast licence has run until 9.25am since forever? Seems a random time.

The BBC negotiated changes in working hours on the assumption that their new Breakfast show would TX 0630 - 0900,
when it was known that the IBA were letting their new 0600 - 0915 franchise to TVam.

The first BBC programme for schools and colleges was usually around 0900, the first ITA / IBA schools programme was generally a little later at 0930,
the (daytime) franchises of the existing contractors were re-defined as starting at 0930, but they were allowed 5 minutes station opening.

The 0915 - 0925 un-contracted time was to re-configure the network;
as the years passed and ITV networking was centralised this gap was found to be not needed,
the early morning franchise was changed to end at 0925.

To the best of my recollection; I was working on BBC Breakfast the morning TVam first took to the air!

[Glomper]

Originally Posted by Dan's Dad

To the best of my recollection; I was working on BBC Breakfast the morning TVam first took to the air!

To the best of my recollection, I was working at TVam when it first took to the Air !

The running joke was that every person interviewed became a viewer, much needed in those days.

So a lot were interviewed !

[Dan's Dad]

Originally Posted by Glomper

To the best of my recollection, ....

Sorry, I'm being a bit slow this morning -

does that mean you are confirming my recollection of 'why 0925'?

[steveh31]

Nice to see the lovely, professional Jenny Hill presenting Breakfast today I think she should be a permanent presenter.

[mossy2103]

Originally Posted by steveh31

Nice to see the lovely, professional Jenny Hill presenting Breakfast today I think she should be a permanent presenter.

Yes, Jenny is a bit of a revelation there - she is wasted as a mere reporter.

[ftv]

The doom merchants who predicted the demise of Breakfast when it moved to Salford have surely been confounded with the audience holding steady at 1.4-1.5 million. The fact it has virtually no opposition is obviously one of the factors.

[mossy2103]

Originally Posted by ftv

The doom merchants who predicted the demise of Breakfast when it moved to Salford have surely been confounded with the audience holding steady at 1.4-1.5 million.

very true - a testament to how smoothly the transition was, and how few changes to teh format there have been.

The fact it has virtually no opposition is obviously one of the factors.

Well, GMDaybreakTV have tried to entice viewers to switch by recruiting the lovely Laura Tobin to present the weather, but even the opportunity to glimpse her radiant beauty in HD is not enough to make me want to switch from BBC Breakfast.