[NeilVW]

Thought it was worth re-posting the ratings again for the England v Algeria 2nd group game in the last World Cup, on Fri 18 June 2010, as there are some points of relevance to Tuesday's upcoming match.

Originally Posted by rzt

BBC One
18:00- BBC News at Six: 4.6m (28.3%)
18:30- Regional News & Weather: 6.0m (32.8%)
19:00- EastEnders: 5.6m (26.2%)
19:30- Victoria: A Royal Love Story: 1.7m (6.3%)
20:30- Inspector George Gently: 2.0m ( 7.3%)
22:00- BBC News at Ten: 4.3m (19.0%)
22:35- Friday Night with Jonathan Ross: 2.4m (15.7%) inc. HD

ITV1 [inc. HD]
17:00- The Chase: 1.7m (12.8%)
18:00- Regional News: 2.6m (16.7%)
18:15- ITV News & Weather: 2.8m (16.3%)
18:30- World Cup Live: England v Algeria: 14.3m (58.0%)
* 5-minute peak: 21.3m
* match average [excluding HD]: 17.4m (64%)
* 1.4m of the audience watched on HD (new HD record)
21:45- James Corden's World Cup Live: 4.9m (21.1%)
22:15- ITV News & Weather: 2.2m (10.7%)

The match kicked off at 19.30 and had a full hour of build-up. Looking at the breakdown which rzt also kindly posted here, it was interesting that the BBC1 regional news beat the first half-hour of football build-up quite handily (by 6.0m to 4.1m) but then the out-of-slot Eastenders lost to the second half-hour of build up (5.6m v 7.8m). EE will again be in that early 19.00 slot on Tuesday but will have in its favour (slightly) that the match doesn't kick off until 19.45 (with build-up starting at 19.00) so perhaps a fair few people will be satisfied with 15 minutes of build-up only. On the other hand, there's always the 10pm BBC3 repeat if they want to watch more build-up as well as EE.

Another similarity with that night is that Inspector George Gently has again been deployed against the big match (are his tapes kept in a special drawer, I wonder). As you can see above, the repeat was beaten down to 2.0m in 2010, which I suppose was respectable in the circumstances. Although its 7.3% share looks horrible (ITV1 Tuesday flopzone level), there are not normally 27.4m people watching TV in that slot on a Friday in the middle of June. The Beeb must have thought it was OK as they're trying it again. One oddity is that after the match had finished, viewing to BBC1 rose to 2.9m in the last 15 minutes of Gently- could people really get into a murder mystery at that stage? More likely they were tuning in early for the news, which as usual got a decent rating despite a poor lead-in, beating the second half of James Corden's show.

At no point did Gently fall below 1.6m (on a quarter-hour-average basis), and even the repeat of Fiona Bruce's Queen Victoria doc, which preceded it, increased from 1.5m to 1.9m during transmission (benefiting from half-time at about 20.15).

On Tuesday there is no Queen Victoria but Holby is brought forward to 19.30: a stronger alternative for anti-football viewers perhaps although I imagine it will be sub-3m.

The other thing to bear in mind is that Tuesday's match, being the third group game, could be a crunch decider and therefore squeeze the BBC1 competition more than the 2010 one did. Someone said that if England went 1-0 up against Ukraine, only needing a draw, then the excitement could wane and ratings sag a little. After the Sweden match, I'm not so sure - England always look like they are quite capable of messing it up...

[Cent]

The Niagara tightrope walk did well on ABC.

According to preliminary Nielsen ratings, when Wallenda finished his walk from 10:30 to 11 p.m., 13.1 million viewers were watching, and during the 9-11 p.m. two-hour broadcast, an average of 10.1 million people were tuned in.

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/...4#.T91oRbWvKSp

We should do big live primetime stunts on UK TV.

[ftv]

Originally Posted by Cent

The Niagara tightrope walk did well on ABC.


http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/...4#.T91oRbWvKSp

We should do big live primetime stunts on UK TV.

Noel Edmonds tried that and someone got killed

[Score]

Ooh, Armstrong beat Miller in last night's ratings #Pointless #primeval #killhim

Richard Osman

Not particularly surprising. I assume Pointless got something in the 3s with Primeval in the mid-high 2s (remember Watch have already aired it).

[rzt]

Originally Posted by Score

Not particularly surprising. I assume Pointless got something in the 3s with Primeval in the mid-high 2s (remember Watch have already aired it).

Yeah you're right - PC: 3.5m, Primeval: 2.6m exc +1. YCBS went down once again to 1.7m.

[Score]

Originally Posted by rzt

Yeah you're right - PC: 3.5m, Primeval: 2.6m exc +1. YCBS went down once again to 1.7m.

Cheers. Pointless Celebrities did decently back in a reasonable slot. Fairly poor for Primeval but not a huge surprise. It would probably be capable of edging 3m an hour later (well if there wasn't football it would anyway) but its a dead show walking now and they're just burning it off. 2.6m (or slightly higher inc +1) isn't that bad for the 6pm hour in June but for content like Primeval it isn't good enough. They should probably swap it round with the disaster that is YCBS though.

Primeval will probably be even lower next week as it's on at 5:40pm and a few viewers were probably caught out last night thinking it was a brand new series and not the one already aired by Watch.

[D.M.N.]

Primeval didn't do too badly for a show that is all but dead. How low did it go in the previous series?

[D.M.N.]

BBC One
18:00- Pointless Celebrities: 3.47m (19.2%)
18:50- BBC News: 3.97m (20.9%)
19:10- MOTD: Poland v Czech Republic: 5.72m (26.4%)
* match average: 6.46m (29.2%)
* peak: 7.07m (32.3%) at 20:25

BBC Two
18:30- Trooping The Colour: 2.56m (12.9%)
20:00- Culture Show Special: 1.02m (4.6%)
21:00- The Young Victoria: 1.77m (8.4%)

ITV1
18:00- Primeval: 2.55m (14.0%), +1: 394k (2.0%)
19:00- You Cannot Be Serious: 1.74m (9.0%), +1: 141k (0.7%)
19:30- You've Been Framed: 2.26m (10.8%), +1: 188k (0.9%)
20:00- Poirot: 2.06m (9.3%), +1: 158k (0.8%)

Channel 4
19:00- Sister Act: 1.60m (7.6%), +1: 325k (1.5%)
21:00- Million Pound Drop Live: 1.49m (7.0%), +1: 235k (1.4%)

Channel 5
19:00- Cricket: 649k (3.2%)
20:00- NCIS: 754k (3.4%)
21:00- Big Brother: 1.08m (4.8%), +1: 120k (0.6%)
22:00- Law and Order: Special Victims Unit: 821k (4.4%)

BBC Three (inc HD)
19:30- MOTD: Greece v Russia: 1.02m (4.6%)
* match: 1.14m (5.1%)
* peak: 2.30m (10.0%) at 21:35

[grimshaw]

Thats a really good rating for Primeval. It should have gone on later and ITV are killing it with stupid scheduling.

I'd have ran it at 7 hoping it fines some sort of audience, which obviously - it did!

EDIT: As I said last series, BB should drop the weekend shows (or just the Saturday) and make an extra long Monday show, I think the (usually) poor Saturday rating can stop momentum.

[fmradiotuner1]

Seems a crap night all round here apart from the match.

[Score]

Originally Posted by D.M.N.

Primeval didn't do too badly for a show that is all but dead. How low did it go in the previous series?

Overnights for the last series were:

Episode 1 - 4.45m (16.8%)
Episode 2 - 3.29m (12.7%)
Episode 3 - 3.74m (16.1%)
Episode 4 - 3.85m (16.7%) [inc +1: 3.94m (17.1%)]
Episode 5 - 3.93m (16.6%) [inc +1: 4.02m (17.0%)]
Episode 6 - 3.39m (14.8%) [inc +1: 3.50m (15.3%)]
Episode 7 - 3.60m (15.4%) [inc +1: 3.72m (15.9%)]

Series average - 3.75m (15.6%) [inc +1: 3.81m (15.8%)]

So last night's rating was down on the last series in total viewers (understandable given that the last series aired on Saturdays at 7pm in January and last night was at 6pm in June) but in share terms (with +1 included anyway) it was pretty much level and really they should give it a 7pm slot to let it end with some dignity. Obviously it stands no chance of coming back but at the moment at least it'd rate better than the alternative in that slot.

[Markynotts]

Originally Posted by grimshaw

Thats a really good rating for Primeval. It should have gone on later and ITV are killing it with stupid scheduling.

I'd have ran it at 7 hoping it fines some sort of audience, which obviously - it did!

I think that I would have given it a go on the flop zone on Tuesday nights.

It might have been able to pick up an alternative Holby audience and lets face it, a show getting 3million on a Saturday night, could possibly save face on the flopzone Tuesday evening if it were getting that figure. It could have even shown that family drama that isnt a soap may do well on a weekday evening over on ITV

[iaindb]

Primeval fan here who didn't watch it last night because I've already seen it on Watch. Each episode of series 5 pulled in over half a million for its first showing on Watch (incl +1) and they've all been shown umpteen times since. Plus the DVD was released months ago. All things considering not a bad audience for it. ITV1's highest rating of the night and it even beat All New You've Been Framed which used to attract 16m viewers() and which had a better slot than Primeval last night.

[iaindb]

Good figure for the football on BBC3 last night. Pretty high peak, probably caused by some BBC1 viewers switching over as soon as the Poland game ended to catch the conclusion of the Greek match, not realising that BBC1 were going straight over to a simulcast. That's what we did in my household.

i wonder how many viewers the France v Sweden game will pick up on ITV4 on Tuesday. I imagine it might do quite well north of the border.

[david04121980]

Originally Posted by iaindb

Good figure for the football on BBC3 last night. Pretty high peak, probably caused by some BBC1 viewers switching over as soon as the Poland game ended to catch the conclusion of the Greek match, not realising that BBC1 were going straight over to a simulcast. That's what we did in my household.

i wonder how many viewers the France v Sweden game will pick up on ITV4 on Tuesday. I imagine it might do quite well north of the border.

Its tonights match on ITV4 will do very well....Group of death!

[Glenn A]

Originally Posted by iaindb

Primeval fan here who didn't watch it last night because I've already seen it on Watch. Each episode of series 5 pulled in over half a million for its first showing on Watch (incl +1) and they've all been shown umpteen times since. Plus the DVD was released months ago. All things considering not a bad audience for it. ITV1's highest rating of the night and it even beat All New You've Been Framed which used to attract 16m viewers() and which had a better slot than Primeval last night.

It did well for what is quite a niche show.

[*Sparkle*]

I didn't even realise Primeval was back!

Just in time to catch most of the ITV2+1 repeat.

[gilesb]

I know it started badly but I was wondering how smash is doing on sky? Did it manage to at least maintain its low viewing figures?

[Glenn A]

BB down to 1.2 million, but to be expected as a lot of the audience are out on Saturday nights. I still maintain this series will average 1.5 million, which is very good for Channel 5. Also I reckon the Bachelor will pull in over a million.

[Jules 1]

Favour to ask, has anyone get 5 or 15 minutes breakdowns of BBC1 and BBC 3 last during the football, to how many people switched over as the BBC 3 was the more important towards the end of the games.

[Glenn A]

With regard to BB, for all I stopped watching regularly in 2004, I think Channel 5 have rectified what was going wrong with the show on Channel 4. No more through the night coverage of people asleep, a presenter thinking she was the show, pointless spin off shows like BBLB and also the house has received a makeover. Also as the show isn't as hyped as it was it can live out its days delighting its 1-2 million fans.

[SamuelW]

Who is Ian McDonnell on here? He always posts funny comments under DS ratings articles.

[allthingsuk]

Originally Posted by Score

Overnights for the last series were:

Episode 1 - 4.45m (16.8%)
Episode 2 - 3.29m (12.7%)
Episode 3 - 3.74m (16.1%)
Episode 4 - 3.85m (16.7%) [inc +1: 3.94m (17.1%)]
Episode 5 - 3.93m (16.6%) [inc +1: 4.02m (17.0%)]
Episode 6 - 3.39m (14.8%) [inc +1: 3.50m (15.3%)]
Episode 7 - 3.60m (15.4%) [inc +1: 3.72m (15.9%)]

Series average - 3.75m (15.6%) [inc +1: 3.81m (15.8%)]

So last night's rating was down on the last series in total viewers (understandable given that the last series aired on Saturdays at 7pm in January and last night was at 6pm in June) but in share terms (with +1 included anyway) it was pretty much level and really they should give it a 7pm slot to let it end with some dignity. Obviously it stands no chance of coming back but at the moment at least it'd rate better than the alternative in that slot.

I remember just a couple of years back in 2007-08, it was getting 5-6 million, albeit in winter.

[grahamzxy]

Originally Posted by D.M.N.

BBC One
18:00- Pointless Celebrities: 3.47m (19.2%)
18:50- BBC News: 3.97m (20.9%)
19:10- MOTD: Poland v Czech Republic: 5.72m (26.4%)

BBC Two
18:30- Trooping The Colour: 2.56m (12.9%)

ITV1
18:00- Primeval: 2.55m (14.0%), +1: 394k (2.0%)
19:00- You Cannot Be Serious: 1.74m (9.0%), +1: 141k (0.7%)
19:30- You've Been Framed: 2.26m (10.8%), +1: 188k (0.9%)
20:00- Poirot: 2.06m (9.3%), +1: 158k (0.8%)

Primeval getting less live viewers than a Trooping The Colour rerun, a healthy +1 rating though. Pointless Celebrities rating nicely and winning the slot with ease. YCBS not as bad as I expected, but felt very 1994 not 2012.

Not a bad rating for the football on BBC1, I didn't realise the Russia match had the BBC HD simulcast, they ought remind viewers often about the match being on BBC3/HD.

A pretty poor show for ITV1 in primetime, looks almost like a 2.5-1 beating by BBC1.

[Cent]

Originally Posted by ftv

Noel Edmonds tried that and someone got killed

That wasn't a big stunt. That was a bungie jump as part of a game show. It was impossible for the guy to die doing the tightrope walk - he had a harness because ABC made him put one on - but it was still interesteing to see if he could do it or not.

Didn't Red Bull get someone to jump the gap on Tower Bridge in a bike? I think it was live on Channel 5. Something like that would be good.