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Old 16-06-2012, 23:55   #26
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Labour policy=spend money until you're broke.

They don't have to publicise it.
Everyone knows.
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Old 17-06-2012, 02:33   #27
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Although I can understand you thinking that this Government needs all the help it can get as far as coming up with alternative policies is concerned, what exactly do you think would happen if Labour did put across alternatives. Do you really think this Government could be seen listening to or acting on anything Labour says after all they've said about them ?


Did the Tories come up with any policies after 2 years of Labour being in Government ?

I don't expect so because the time for a Shadow Government to put across their policies is when we are coming up to a GE.
When times are good and the general population don't really feel any difference in their daily lives regardless of who's in charge then I'd agree with you. But times aren't good and anyone who thinks a politician's personal ambitions should trump the national interest really ought to wonder what calibre of person would sit on the fence throwing eggs at the Titanic rather than help out.
Labour's current attitude is nothing short of a disgrace IMO.

Now is not the time for playing party politics. Westminster as a whole needs to grow up. Playtime is over.
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Old 17-06-2012, 02:53   #28
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When times are good and the general population don't really feel any difference in their daily lives regardless of who's in charge then I'd agree with you. But times aren't good and anyone who thinks a politician's personal ambitions should trump the national interest really ought to wonder what calibre of person would sit on the fence throwing eggs at the Titanic rather than help out.
Labour's current attitude is nothing short of a disgrace IMO.

Now is not the time for playing party politics. Westminster as a whole needs to grow up. Playtime is over.
If I thought that this Government would embrace any policies the Labour Party came up with then I would agree with you but I really don't believe they would, in fact IMO they are more likely to ridicule them. So Labour may as well wait until the next GE and let the public vote on whose policies they like best.
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Old 17-06-2012, 03:15   #29
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If I thought that this Government would embrace any policies the Labour Party came up with then I would agree with you but I really don't believe they would, in fact IMO they are more likely to ridicule them. So Labour may as well wait until the next GE and let the public vote on whose policies they like best.
I'm pretty sure they would adopt a Labour policy if they though that it was viable and wasn't dependant on even more borrowing. Government's nicking opposition ideas and trying to give us the illusion they dreamed it up themselves is nothing new.

Assume for the moment Labour are indeed keeping their powder dry and are holding the answers to the countries economic woes. Would you rather they share them with us now and saved us a further three years of misery or would you rather suffer for another three years?

I'd be bloody furious if I thought they were hanging back just to secure themselves a sexier job title in the future at our expense, IFAIC politicians exist to do what's best for us first and foremost, not what's best for themselves
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Old 17-06-2012, 03:24   #30
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I'm pretty sure they would adopt a Labour policy if they though that it was viable and wasn't dependant on even more borrowing. Government's nicking opposition ideas and trying to give us the illusion they dreamed it up themselves is nothing new.

Assume for the moment Labour are indeed keeping their powder dry and are holding the answers to the countries economic woes. Would you rather they share them with us now and saved us a further three years of misery or would you rather suffer for another three years?

I'd be bloody furious if I thought they were hanging back just to secure themselves a sexier job title in the future at our expense, IFAIC politicians exist to do what's best for us first and foremost, not what's best for themselves
Of course I would but how do we... how do you... know they haven't offered to share policies and the Government has knocked them back, why assume that it is all Labours fault.
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Old 17-06-2012, 05:25   #31
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I'm pretty sure they would adopt a Labour policy if they though that it was viable and wasn't dependant on even more borrowing.
Not much chance of that though is there?
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Old 17-06-2012, 10:12   #32
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Labour policy=spend money until you're broke.

They don't have to publicise it.
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Same policy as the Tory Party expecially since 1945 their spending record is actually marginally worse than Labour's.
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Old 17-06-2012, 10:21   #33
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I see on the Andrew Marr show that Cruddas wants to move Labour more to the left.

If they can introduce policies that puts the hard-working man first, who in turn will benefit businesses, then they make get some of their voters back.

It will be interesting to see how this will go on.
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Old 17-06-2012, 10:24   #34
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Don't worry the bankers bonus will pay for everything.
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Old 17-06-2012, 10:55   #35
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I'm pretty sure they would adopt a Labour policy if they though that it was viable and wasn't dependant on even more borrowing. Government's nicking opposition ideas and trying to give us the illusion they dreamed it up themselves is nothing new.

Assume for the moment Labour are indeed keeping their powder dry and are holding the answers to the countries economic woes. Would you rather they share them with us now and saved us a further three years of misery or would you rather suffer for another three years?

I'd be bloody furious if I thought they were hanging back just to secure themselves a sexier job title in the future at our expense, IFAIC politicians exist to do what's best for us first and foremost, not what's best for themselves
There is no easy answer, being held back or otherwise. There are different ways of heading in the same direction but the government will not change that as it goes against their ideological position.
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Old 17-06-2012, 12:32   #36
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There is no easy answer, being held back or otherwise. There are different ways of heading in the same direction but the government will not change that as it goes against their ideological position.
I'm not sure why anyone would expect this Government to listen to or act on any policies Labour come up with especially if it could be seen as an admission that their own policies have been wrong up to now.
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Old 17-06-2012, 12:38   #37
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I'm not sure why anyone would expect this Government to listen to or act on any policies Labour come up with especially if it could be seen as an admission that their own policies have been wrong up to now.
They don't to be honest gummy, it's just a typical way to avoid answering to their own party's failings.
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