[priscilla]

i did feel a bit of sympathy for her when MM played her
but i also felt sorry when MM question his mother love and broke down
basically jean should have never went into the house and made him think she flushed his st christopher down the toilet, he was always gonna get her back
jean should have never taken the money in the first place

i predict lots of people will disagree with me

[Scrabbler]

Originally Posted by Scrabbler

Janine is good, they just need to give her a new sense of direction. I'm fed up of her being the victim.

I meant Jean. Dur

[Outraged Viewer]

Originally Posted by Scrabbler

I meant Jean. Dur

Or even Janice...

[doormouse1]

I think it's rather sad that a lot of people seem to be attacking Jean because of her mental instability. The episode thread was peppered with people 'hating' Jean. I suspect most of those were the same immature people who used to 'hate' Heather before she wasn;t around to mock any more.

It's is a poor reflection on society that this 'pack' mentality appears from time to time on this forum. It's a most unattractive trait. Armchair bullies.

[benbenalen]

Jean was absolutely toptastic bloody fantastic, A really good Actress, she is a credit to EastEnders, they are so lucky to have her,

Think about it, she isnt stupid, she isnt annoying its called "Acting"

She's obvs really good at it, if Audience hate her.

I too "flipping love her"

[dan2008]

She's fantastic! Gillian Wright has played this storyline so well and i feel so involved aswell Im shouting at the screen 'Dont listen Jean' get out of there 'Jean' I just want her to record micheal and have everyone in the square hear the truth.

Im really enjoying EastEnders right now and just can't wait for the next episode.

Gillian Wright deserves an award

[soapmad]

She is great and love her at the mo .

[T.K. Mazin]

Originally Posted by priscilla

i did feel a bit of sympathy for her when MM played her
but i also felt sorry when MM question his mother love and broke down
basically jean should have never went into the house and made him think she flushed his st christopher down the toilet, he was always gonna get her back
jean should have never taken the money in the first place

i predict lots of people will disagree with me

Lol well, like Jean said, "You've taken everything away from me and now you know how it feels." or something along those lines, forgot the exact line . Michael is an evil cretin needs a good slappin' dooown . Michael doesn't deserve anybody's sympathy and is to blame for this whole mess, not Jean. Despite that, I am entertained by Michael and his character and hope he stays on the show for a while yet . But I hope justice is served.

Jean should never have taken the money in the first place? She got conned by Michael remember. He's a master manipulator and liar. Sure, you could say Jean was naive or whatever in giving the money away, but at the end of the day she thought she was giving the money for a good cause and she thought Michael was her friend whom she could trust. Unfortunately, you get many cases like this in real life, where people are conned out of their life savings for false charitable causes that turn out to be confidence schemes. Jean isn't exactly alone here.

Don't let the Micheal love blind you, woman .

[T.K. Mazin]

Originally Posted by dan2008

She's fantastic! Gillian Wright has played this storyline so well and i feel so involved aswell Im shouting at the screen 'Dont listen Jean' get out of there 'Jean' I just want her to record micheal and have everyone in the square hear the truth.

Im really enjoying EastEnders right now and just can't wait for the next episode.

Gillian Wright deserves an award

*High five* Agreed. Love Jean & Gillian Wright's acting. Yeah, I was shouting at the TV too lol. I was like, "You bastard, Moon! Leave her alone!!"

Genuinely a good episode. Best I've seen in a while. This is coming from someone who hasn't consistently enjoyed EE for a few years. Hopefully, the quality will continue .

[Outraged Viewer]

Originally Posted by T.K. Mazin

I was shouting at the TV too .

Ditto.

I was urging her on.

'Go on, Jean! You can do it!'

[T.K. Mazin]

Originally Posted by Outraged Viewer

Ditto.

I was urging her on.

'Go on, Jean! You can do it!'

Haha sounds like a lot of us were . A sign of good writing when it evokes such strong emotions from the audience . I usually don't shout at the TV during EE episodes (well not since 2001 ), but this was the first time in a very long time where I was emotionally invested in a episode.

[Outraged Viewer]

Originally Posted by T.K. Mazin

Haha sounds like a lot of us were . A sign of good writing when it evokes such strong emotions from the audience . I usually don't shout at the TV during EE episodes (well not since 2001 ), but this was the first time in a very long time where I was emotionally invested in a episode.

Yes, it was so good, so well written and acted, that it was a genuine shock, especially the very moving scene between Cora and Jean.

I think that scene was especially good because it flowed directly from the recent development of Cora's character, which seems to have blossomed since she teamed up with Dot.

Hallelujah!

[spottybanana10]

I agree, jean is one of the few characters who doesn't actually annoy me in some way lol. Gillian is an amazing actress, definitely one of the best on the show! Although alfie is annoying me still wanting to be Michaels best man and siding with him after everythin, I hope he apologies to jean (and less importantly kat) when he discovers the truth!

[40-40J's]

I love her acting too but I hope they don't drag this out for much longer - it's not comfortable viewing the way Alfie and co are treating her.

[VirginiaDem]

Originally Posted by zebrastripes

I think she did a really good job tonight flushing Michael's necklace - she finally got through to him it was just such a shame she didn't record it because then everyone would know the truth. I guess they didn't do that because that was what Janine was going to do on Christmas Eve 2010. Would have been too similar

Recording someone without their consent is illegal. If they'd proceeded with Lauren's recording of Stacey's confession, it wouldn't have held up in court. Neither would this.

[Scarry Mary]

one of my fave actresses on TV. Did anyone catch Jo Joyner bigging her up on Daybreak today?

[sian2011]

I find Jean a really irritating character and wouldn't spend 5 minutes in her company in real life BUT the actress plays the part fantastically and this storyline has had me gripped. Obviously some characters are meant to draw you in, some make you angry and with Jean she's a complex and ever changing person because of her illness and for this she is soap gold.

[priscilla]

Originally Posted by T.K. Mazin

Lol well, like Jean said, "You've taken everything away from me and now you know how it feels." or something along those lines, forgot the exact line . Michael is an evil cretin needs a good slappin' dooown . Michael doesn't deserve anybody's sympathy and is to blame for this whole mess, not Jean. Despite that, I am entertained by Michael and his character and hope he stays on the show for a while yet . But I hope justice is served.

Jean should never have taken the money in the first place? She got conned by Michael remember. He's a master manipulator and liar. Sure, you could say Jean was naive or whatever in giving the money away, but at the end of the day she thought she was giving the money for a good cause and she thought Michael was her friend whom she could trust. Unfortunately, you get many cases like this in real life, where people are conned out of their life savings for false charitable causes that turn out to be confidence schemes. Jean isn't exactly alone here.

Don't let the Micheal love blind you, woman .

no i agree
im saying if she never went into the house it wouldnt have played her
but even though i knew what was gonna happen.i really wanted MM to tell the whole vic
jean was willing to.forgive him and he goes and those that

[VirginiaDem]

Originally Posted by doormouse1

I think it's rather sad that a lot of people seem to be attacking Jean because of her mental instability. The episode thread was peppered with people 'hating' Jean. I suspect most of those were the same immature people who used to 'hate' Heather before she wasn;t around to mock any more.

It's is a poor reflection on society that this 'pack' mentality appears from time to time on this forum. It's a most unattractive trait. Armchair bullies.

I think you are mistaken. No one's "hating" Jean because of her so-called mental instability. You misunderstand bi-polar syndrome. It's not mental instability. It's a condition that's controllable by medication. As many people have pointed out, Stephen Fry has bi-polar syndrome, and he is anything but mentally unstable.

Michael didn't choose to scam Jean because of her medical condition, but rather her stupidity. Say what you will, but Jean is not bright at all and very gullible - and that has nothing to do with her bi-polar. There are actually other people in the Square, present and past, who were similar to Jean in intelligence - Billy Mitchell, for example; Heather, Honey and Little Mo.

What a lot of people object to is the fact that Jean is, like a lot of other characters in the programme at the moment, presenting herself as a victim, absconding responsibility for what she has done - which is to take money which didn't belong to her from someone who isn't just family, but her employer. Also, Jean was canny enough to begin manipulating MIchael in the beginning, and her aim was to get back at Janine by breaking the couple up. That is what was motivating Jean, but as soon as Michael learned she not only had money, but access to money, he flattered her and one-upped the manipulation.

The manipulation has nothing at all to do with Jean's condition, but everything to do with her stupidity. She was flattered by the attention, and succumbed to his scam in an effort to get close to Michael.

People also forget that Jean can also be very sly - sly enough to open other people's letters, sly enough to set Charlie up with an internet dating situation.

I also don't like the way she is wantonly targeting Janine in all of this. Janine is a biatch, but Jean's daughter destroyed Janine's marriage, and at the moment, Janine is heavily pregnant, hormonal and probably going through the early stages of a premature labour.

At this moment in time, yes, Michael is taking advantage of Jean's medical history to cover his tracks, but when this whole storyline started, it had absolutely nothing to do with Jean's bi-polar condition and everything to do with her gullibility.

And for the record, I was always a massive fan of Heather, who - when she originally was featured on the show - could also be quite manipulative, if you remember the silly wedding competition storyline with Hazel Hobbs.

[catsmeow]

Finally a storyline for Jean and one that is showing off her dramatic talents. I hope she comes out of this stronger and maybe the next storyline for her will involve some personal happiness.

[Outraged Viewer]

Originally Posted by catsmeow

maybe the next storyline for her will involve some personal happiness.

I have often thought the Jean and Billy would make a very nice couple.

[rapunzel4]

i sooooooooooooooooo want sean to come back and give michael a good hiding......

was the st christopher actually flushed or not???

[Grabid Rannies]

Whatever, Gillian Wright is an incredible actress.

The scenes a year or two ago where she was 'squaring up' to Stacey in that two or three hander where Stacey got sectioned, told you all you needed to know about Wright's acting ability.

Gillian Wright IS Jean - you see the character on screen, and to me, you don't think of her as being an 'actress' - you think of a real person. And that, to me, is consummate acting ability taken to the nth degree.

Gillian Wright is probably the most professional 'actor' soap has to offer right now, and has had for a long, long time. She is truly amazing.

[queenshaks]

Originally Posted by VirginiaDem

I think you are mistaken. No one's "hating" Jean because of her so-called mental instability. You misunderstand bi-polar syndrome. It's not mental instability. It's a condition that's controllable by medication. As many people have pointed out, Stephen Fry has bi-polar syndrome, and he is anything but mentally unstable.

Michael didn't choose to scam Jean because of her medical condition, but rather her stupidity. Say what you will, but Jean is not bright at all and very gullible - and that has nothing to do with her bi-polar. There are actually other people in the Square, present and past, who were similar to Jean in intelligence - Billy Mitchell, for example; Heather, Honey and Little Mo.

What a lot of people object to is the fact that Jean is, like a lot of other characters in the programme at the moment, presenting herself as a victim, absconding responsibility for what she has done - which is to take money which didn't belong to her from someone who isn't just family, but her employer. Also, Jean was canny enough to begin manipulating MIchael in the beginning, and her aim was to get back at Janine by breaking the couple up. That is what was motivating Jean, but as soon as Michael learned she not only had money, but access to money, he flattered her and one-upped the manipulation.

The manipulation has nothing at all to do with Jean's condition, but everything to do with her stupidity. She was flattered by the attention, and succumbed to his scam in an effort to get close to Michael.

People also forget that Jean can also be very sly - sly enough to open other people's letters, sly enough to set Charlie up with an internet dating situation.

I also don't like the way she is wantonly targeting Janine in all of this. Janine is a biatch, but Jean's daughter destroyed Janine's marriage, and at the moment, Janine is heavily pregnant, hormonal and probably going through the early stages of a premature labour.

At this moment in time, yes, Michael is taking advantage of Jean's medical history to cover his tracks, but when this whole storyline started, it had absolutely nothing to do with Jean's bi-polar condition and everything to do with her gullibility.

And for the record, I was always a massive fan of Heather, who - when she originally was featured on the show - could also be quite manipulative, if you remember the silly wedding competition storyline with Hazel Hobbs.

A well thought out post.

[queenshaks]

Originally Posted by rapunzel4

i sooooooooooooooooo want sean to come back and give michael a good hiding......

was the st christopher actually flushed or not???

I just want Sean back for a bit of eye candy